Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Gee, you do I/O, you wait ... [snip] Sure. I don't know if there is a CICS service to do I/O to some non-CICS dataset, or if it was simply tolerated. Actually, a wait only affects other transactions in the same CICS region as the will have to wait, too. I remember that in the early releases of

Re: Replacing IBM 3745

2010-01-28 Thread Juergen Keller
hello Philip, hello Chris, the part with CISCO SNASw is exactly what we did when replacing the 3745s. We moved the old X.21 SDLC links from 3745 to SNASw without any impact to the customers and it works really fine. We also moved FrameRelay-links with 64Kb and they also work without any impact.

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-28 Thread Yifat Oren
Ron, Just to be sure someone mentions this; Compressed Format sequential data sets are a special case of PS-E's. From Macro Instructions for Data Sets': Recommendation: For compressed format data sets, do not specify NCP (thus, allowing the system to default it to 1) or specify NCP=1. This

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Don Poitras
In article dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b230412b...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net you wrote: Gee, you do I/O, you wait ... [snip] Sure. I don't know if there is a CICS service to do I/O to some non-CICS dataset, or if it was simply tolerated. Actually, a wait only affects other transactions in

connection time out and TSU still running

2010-01-28 Thread מתן כהן
hi, i came across a strange problem only for one of the TSO users when the connection time out reached, the user don't get the main TSO screen and the screen where he was before still shown . then when he press a key,he get the Xsystem down in thePCOM session until the main screen appears again

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:10:27 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: that CICS transaction must not go into a wait, be it deliberately or as the result of calling a non-CICS service. I think nowadays there is a special queue to put transactions that do incur waits.

Re: IPCS Start-up issue

2010-01-28 Thread Mervyn Hing
LURKER ALERT I know this is for CICS and a little ancient but does the ISPF portion on page 7 help? http://www.schunk-associates.com/Presentations/Share097/s1078kta.pdf -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: z/os library center

2010-01-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Is anyone else having problems with the z/OS library center? None of the bookshelves appear for me. I have tried Chromium, Firefox and IE. One reason I never used the Library Center stuff is because

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2010-01-28 Thread Mark Pace
What is this, the 3rd such spam email? I think Jospeh should be removed until he can get control of his email and rejoin. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Joseph Poon jopoo...@hotmail.com wrote: http://sites.google.com/site/vx37sga2/dvep3f

Re: JES2 Checkpoint dataset reserving the DASD volume.

2010-01-28 Thread Staller, Allan
What is value of the HOLD= parameter on your MASDEF statement? snip GRS display: ISG343I 15.55.25 GRS STATUS 932 DEVICE:6037 VOLUME:SPL3T0 RESERVED BY SYSTEM TSYS S=SYSTEMS SYSZJES2 SPL3T0SYS1.RDYTPLEX.HASPCKP1 T

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2010-01-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-01-28 14:30, Mark Pace pisze: What is this, the 3rd such spam email? I think Jospeh should be removed until he can get control of his email and rejoin. Yes, something should be done. However it is possible that Joseph is as guilty as you, it is possible that his address was

Re: IPCS Start-up issue

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:58:53 -0600, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Still having problems. Under ISPF, I can't get IPCS to start. The dump directory is allocated properly but I still get the same start-up error: IKJURPS RC=20,ERROR=23 I re-iterate: IPCS docs and MSGS CODES are useless;

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:02:07 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: Gee, you do I/O, you wait ... [snip] Sure. I don't know if there is a CICS service to do I/O to some non-CICS dataset, or if it was simply tolerated. Actually, a wait only affects other transactions in the same CICS region as the

Joseph Poon

2010-01-28 Thread mpace58
Given how trivial it is to forge mail, removing someone who is a legitimate member would seem to be the worst solution. Oh, btw, this isn't from Mark...just proving the point. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Joseph Poon

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Pace
Point taken. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:00 AM, mpac...@gmail.com wrote: Given how trivial it is to forge mail, removing someone who is a legitimate member would seem to be the worst solution. Oh, btw, this isn't from Mark...just proving the point.

Re: (none)

2010-01-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jan 2010 05:54:14 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: BTW: The above is only one of possible scenarios. Another one is someone simply subscribed to the list just for such purpose. What's sad: there is no reasonable way to fight against it: everyone can subsribe to the

Re: connection time out and TSU still running

2010-01-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
( the reconnect action is disable - and i like to keep it that way) . Why? .so he need to ask me every time to cancel his user do you have any idea? Yes. Re-enable reconnect. Or, live with the requests. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: The Incredible Shrinking PDSE

2010-01-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Your storage admin may have coded the acs routine to accept a management class value passed in via jcl but not likely. Why is that not likely? I've always allowed it. Especially, since you can over-ride it with IDCAMS. Most of the time, I've found people don't take the effort to change/control

Re: Conflicting PCI Requirements - TLS FTP

2010-01-28 Thread Kirk Wolf
Sure, FTPS (FTP with TLS) is a PITA WRT firewalls and NAT routers, but as Scott mentioned, there are elaborate hacks and tweaks that can usually make it work. If you can get one of these to work, why would that be a violation of PCI? As an alternative to FTPS, you might consider: 1) SSH/SFTP

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:02:07 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)

Re: The Incredible Shrinking PDSE

2010-01-28 Thread John Kington
Your storage admin may have coded the acs routine to accept a management class value passed in via jcl but not likely. Why is that not likely? I've always allowed it. Especially, since you can over-ride it with IDCAMS. Most of the time, I've found people don't take the effort to change/control

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jan 2010 07:34:29 -0800, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) wrote: Invalid PIN number; please re-enter Personal Identification Number Number? At least this is working communication - unlike trying to guess what is meant by 12:00 PM.

Re: Job Openings At IBM In Dubuque Iowa

2010-01-28 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Agreed, particularly since this is not the first offense. On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:07 -0600, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.com wrote: I am certainly no prude, and I swear like a sailor, but I refrain from doing so on a public forum. I have seen plenty of irate rants about any number of

Re: IPCS 64bit Storage

2010-01-28 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Dan, While I haven't started on this path yet, I believe that for 64 bit data access, you need to use the SYMBOL SERVICE rather than the STORAGE ACCESS service. It appears that when you define the ERS block you need to specify ABITS=64 to generate the LAD area as a 64bit field rather than a

Re: PSF and Postnet on a 6500 printer

2010-01-28 Thread Howard Turetzky
While the 6500 is an IPDS printer, it does not support downloadable fonts. Instead, it uses built-in (resident) fonts, called symbol sets. For this reason, you can't use a barcode font; the 6500 has no built-in barcode fonts. However, IBM long ago designed a barcode architecture into AFP

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
What happens when a CICS transaction must do something like: Invalid PIN number; please re-enter ??? Does that spawn a separate transaction? The basic design of transaction managers is that there is a message queue manager which stacks messages until a transaction becomes idle so it can

Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM

2010-01-28 Thread Victor Gil
Feeling obligated to expose the original author I've rediscovered the source - http://www.mainframesupport.dk/tips/tip0344.html and so the author's name is Claus E. Mikkelsen. His website has also tons of other useful tips, so thank YOU very much, Claus! -Victor- On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:06:36

db2-l having problems?

2010-01-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Has anyone received any new messages on the db2-l listserv? I don't see anything since 1/26, and when I attempted to post a new message it bounced back to me. Frank -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA

Re: db2-l having problems?

2010-01-28 Thread McLaren Phil
Frank - same here, also checked the DB2-L archives and nothing in there since the 26th either. I think it's having a bad couple of days Phil -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: 28 January 2010 16:15

Re: why compression costs additional I/O?

2010-01-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
Pawel, You should inform the vendor of DFSORT that using BSAM is not a good idea and see if any other sort vendors do a better job of handling compressed data if it is important enough in your shop. Since BSAM uses EXCP internally, BSAM is evidently building channel programs that are less

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee On 28 Jan 2010 07:34:29 -0800, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) wrote: Invalid PIN number; please re-enter Personal Identification Number Number? Usually seen on an Automated

Re: IPCS Start-up issue

2010-01-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- Rick, Have you tried opening a PMR with IPCS support? How exactly are you trying to start it? From the i...@390u panel or home grown option? Btw, that panel selection option uses CMD(BLSCLIBD) NEWAPPL(BLSG)

Re: DO NOT CLICK ON LINK FROM JOSEPH POON

2010-01-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
I prefer my rule of thumb: do not click on link, or even bother opening, an IBM-MAIN post with no subject. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web:

Re: PSF and Postnet on a 6500 printer

2010-01-28 Thread Dazzo, Matt
We do have a IBM 6500, PSF over TCPIP printing bar code but I'm sure what kind of bar code. I did not work on the project so it's doubtful how much useful information I could provide. If you want to try some questions off line that would be fine, I can always poke around and see what I find.

Re: connection time out and TSU still running

2010-01-28 Thread Hal Merritt
I assume the time out is network or client based. If so, the disconnect is not being sent to the host. The host is blissfully waiting with no idea the client is gone. Until the normal host time out, I don't know of any recourse other than a manual operator cancel, permit reconnect, or

Re: Conflicting PCI Requirements - TLS FTP

2010-01-28 Thread Scott
FTPS is PCI compliant. I do, however, strongly suggest using the sftp software that Kirk's company (Dovetailed) provides. Yet again, he won't go on the marketing offensive--so I will :) If you frequently exchange data with outside vendors... You'll benefit from having an sftp solution. Scott

Re: Job Openings At IBM In Dubuque Iowa

2010-01-28 Thread Scott
Sorry :( My sarcasm/humor was a bit much. I'll tone it down. Scott On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote: Agreed, particularly since this is not the first offense. On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:07 -0600, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.com wrote: I am

Re: Replacing IBM 3745

2010-01-28 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Philip, when you say cisco router, what router in specific? Natarajan On 1/27/2010 at 9:17 PM, in message listserv%201001272317599791.0...@bama.ua.edu, Philip Chan philipc...@hkex.com.hk wrote: In z/OS environment, is there anyone has the experience of connecting Remote 3174 to Cisco

SMS Compression - Software or Hardware

2010-01-28 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
If a Dataclass with the following attributes is invoked: Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : REQUIRED Extended Addressability . . : YES Record Access Bias . . . . : USER Space Constraint Relief . . . : YES Reduce Space Up To (%) . . : 50

Re: DO NOT CLICK ON LINK FROM JOSEPH POON

2010-01-28 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
I agree. Delete mail without subject. Don't follow blind links. I also delete mail with meaningless subjects. Give people enough info in the subject to know what it is about. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract

IEF287I NOT CTLGD 2

2010-01-28 Thread Staller, Allan
ISTR an option in DFSMS to allow recataloging instead of generating message IEF287I. Does anyone remember what option that is and where it is specified? Thanks in advance, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SMS Compression - Software or Hardware

2010-01-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
David, SMS uses hardware compression. It has an asymmetric CPU cost, where decompressing the data uses 80% less CPU than compressing it. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent:

Re: SMS Compression - Software or Hardware

2010-01-28 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Ron Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Ron Hawkins [ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS Compression - Software or Hardware David, SMS uses hardware compression. It has an

Re: IEF287I NOT CTLGD 2

2010-01-28 Thread John Kington
Alan, ISTR an option in DFSMS to allow recataloging instead of generating message IEF287I. Does anyone remember what option that is and where it is specified? I think this is one of the few functions of Stopx37 and its ilk that SMS does not handle. If anyone knows that I am wrong, please feel

Re: IEF287I NOT CTLGD 2

2010-01-28 Thread Spencer, Mike
DFSMS does not handle NOT CATLG2 situations for SMS or non-SMS managed data sets. Non-SMS data sets will receive the IEF287I NOT CATLG2 message, resulting in a duplicate uncataloged entry for the new allocation request, while a JCL error and allocation failure is given for SMS managed data

Re: IEF287I NOT CTLGD 2

2010-01-28 Thread Staller, Allan
Thanks to all that replied. I must have had a senior moment. snip ISTR an option in DFSMS to allow recataloging instead of generating message IEF287I. Does anyone remember what option that is and where it is specified? /snip --

Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups

2010-01-28 Thread J R
Ron, I'm perplexed. I use google groups to monitor ibm-main, using the email interface only when posting. In general, this works well for me. However, just recently, posts from your good self are not showing up unless someone quotes them. Any idea why? Enquiring minds want to

Re: Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups

2010-01-28 Thread Arthur T.
On 28 Jan 2010 11:46:49 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:blu137-w226dc0c084578fb0fd248fa3...@phx.gbl) jayare...@hotmail.com (J R) wrote: Ron, I'm perplexed. I use google groups to monitor ibm-main, using the email interface only when posting. In general, this works well for me.

Re: SMS Compression - Software or Hardware

2010-01-28 Thread Mike Bell
There are 2 kinds of compression. The outboard kind that takes place in the tape unit is one example. there is no difference in the z.os cpu time for writing a compressed tape. the operating system kind which is always software. the software compression can be either just software or hardware

Re: Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups

2010-01-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
ibmm...@intergate.com (Arthur T.) writes: The problem is not with Google Groups. It appears that some posts are not making it to Usenet. What's odd is that recently this happened in at least one other newsgroup (comp.risks). Some posts are not making it through the mirrors to

Re: Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups

2010-01-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
No idea. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups Ron, I'm perplexed. I use google

Re: z/os library center

2010-01-28 Thread Todd Last
The Library Center is not working for me either. Just got a new Java update on my windows workstations. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET

Re: Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups

2010-01-28 Thread J R
While on the subject of google groups for ibm-main, posts from Lynn Wheeler seem to show up in duplicate. Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:45:03 -0500 From: l...@garlic.com Subject: Re: Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: The Incredible Shrinking PDSE

2010-01-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Also, there are many issues with non-SMS PDSE's. Care to elaborate on what you think those issues are? There is the buffering/potential corruption of shared PDSE's. The 100's of PTF's that came out a few years ago. And, the separate code streams to manage them within and without SMS. Aside

Re: Re : Extracting STDOUT data from USS

2010-01-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:58:24 -0600 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: :My naive understanding of the OS/360 multiprocessing :paradigm is that when one unit of work WAITs, another :is dispatched. How does CICS manage to subvert this? :Why was it ever allowed? :What happens when a CICS

Re: The Incredible Shrinking PDSE

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:34:53 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Also, there are many issues with non-SMS PDSE's. Care to elaborate on what you think those issues are? There is the buffering/potential corruption of shared PDSE's. Nothing to do with SMS vs. NON-SMS PDSE. The 100's of

Re: trace table overhead

2010-01-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Schuster Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: trace table overhead Is there a general ballpark figure for the # of instructions it takes to write an

Re: trace table overhead

2010-01-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:09:33 -0500 Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On :Behalf Of Paul Schuster :Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:18 PM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: trace

Re: trace table overhead

2010-01-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: trace table overhead On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:09:33 -0500 Thompson, Steve

Top Secret to RACF - Institution Defined Data

2010-01-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
In addition to migrating to z/OS from VSE we are also migrating from CA-Top Secret to RACF. Currently in Top Secret each user has some institution defined data that we use for various things. There is a call interface called TSSCAI that we can call from Cobol programs to retrieve this data.

Re: z/os library center

2010-01-28 Thread Roger Bolan
I think somebody said at SHARE that Library Centers were being phased out in favor of Information Centers. Try z/OS V1R11 Information Centerhttp://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp and I can understand why. The Library Center works for me but is much less responsive than the

Re: IPCS Start-up issue

2010-01-28 Thread Roger Bolan
That error says: Processing unsuccessful; the IKJURPS service was invoked in an environment in which the TSO/E TMP cannot process an IKJURPS request. For example, during LOGON processing. See http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.ikjb700/inurp.htm This

Re: Replacing IBM 3745

2010-01-28 Thread Philip Chan
Hi Chris, Thanks for advice, I already known this is not a permanent solution. The direction should be used IBM InfoPrint with IP Printway for TCPIP printer support. This configuration may be unusual to most of the companies. In fact, the SNA printing is not only for CICS but also JES

Re: Replacing IBM 3745

2010-01-28 Thread Chris Mason
Philip Your English is good but I'm afraid it is superficially so. You should discuss your posts with someone who is a better English speaker in order to avoid problems. I can make no sense at all of the following sentence: The Cisco router model is 2811 in this testing and according to the

Re: SMS Compression - Software or Hardware

2010-01-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mike, It is the hardware assisted compression that I was referring to. There were/are products that do software compression without using the Hardware assist. DFSMSdss, DFSMShsm and old versions of SAS and IAM spring to mind. Then there was the IBM G4 and G5 that moved the hardware assist to