Defining applications cross domain

2010-03-08 Thread Phil Kingston
Hi All, We are trying to get a number of new products with VTAM applications installed on our test system and get access to them fro our session manager running on the production system. If we define the ACB on the test system and activate we can see that it's active. If we attempt to logon

Re: Defining applications cross domain

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Phil If we define the ACB on the test system and activate we can see that it's active. I assume by this you mean that you have defined an *APPL* statement - rather than an ACB since an ACB is a control block within the VTAM program which has the same name as the APPL statement - and that

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Patrick Falcone
OK, so who do we send our emails to to let IBM know that it's a dumb idea to even consider discontinuing the Redbook Series? And should there be a generic subject line that gets the attention of those individuals and hopefully eliminates get washed in with all the other dirty laundry... --- On

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Patrick Falcone wrote: so who do we send our emails to to let IBM know that it's a snipped idea to even consider discontinuing the Redbook Series? There is a weekly newsletters from RedBooks. Are anything about 'discontinue' there? Do you see anything on this page below?

Re: Any idea how a batch pgm (fetchable routine) can find out by which program it was fetched?

2010-03-08 Thread Walter Trovijo
Jan, Probably t late, but take a look at CSVSMIPR in samplib Best, Walter Trovijo Jr. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:38:17 +0100 Jan Vanbrabant vanbrabant...@gmail.com wrote: :Question wholly contained in

PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I am trying to define a PCOM session as a printer to TN3270E. At PCOM I clicked Session Parameters and Taged PRINTER instead of DIsplay. I then clicked OK and again, on Link Parameters. I specified an IUP ADDR, LUNAME and PORET. When I try to connect, I get a gray screen whth the word QUIT on it

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Scott T. Harder
Thanks, Bob, for the correction. Sorry about that (doh!). I agree and was going to add to my original reply an if this is true... caveat, but for some reason I just went with it. It did seem unlikely that IBM would do this, but stranger things have happened. I'm *very* happy that it was just a

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Doug Fuerst
What is the session trying to connect to? And OSA or an OSC adapter? Or something else? It would seem it is not defined there. If you are using an OSC adapter, the session must be defined there as well. Doug Fuerst Itschak Mugzach wrote: I am trying to define a PCOM session as a printer to

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
Hi Mike, Nice talking to you again. I don't know whether it was free or just inexpensive and therefore virtually free (no pun intended). One of the university hospitals that has it is Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. They might know. Infact, they have a LINUX under z/VM project going on there. I

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
They key to control is knowledge, withholding information. Have you ever had a plumber, electrician, or car mechanic, just shrug his shoulders, give you a blank stare, or mutter some meaningless thing whenever you start asking him legitimate questions? IT consultants have been known to do the

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:25:35 -0500, Timothy Sipples wrote: a fully configured System z9 BC (until end of June). I don't like MIPS metrics, but for those that still do it'd be thousands of MIPS. Thousands? Not quite. Now IBM introduces the System z10 BC, and you upgrade. You get thousands more

Re: RMM Multi-Volume volume list

2010-03-08 Thread Mike Wood
Romero, 'VL' is the correct line command, but this has to be entered on a search results list rather than on the volume display panel. So, if you entered volume display from a search results list, return to the list and enter VL line command. Mike Wood RMM Development

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
No sure I understand your questiion. It is an OSA adapter, but the address is resolved by TN3270E for sure, as we configured PCOM to terminal and then the LU was found. ITschak On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Doug Fuerst d...@bkassociates.net wrote: What is the session trying to connect to?

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
How can anyone have too many mainframe MIPS? Really? Dahh. Just look at SHADOW, the Data Direct Product that enables a TCB workload, through some niffty fancy footwork, to run workloads on a Ziip processor which handles SRB only workloads. I have a former client who

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Itschak This is an interesting problem. I haven't done this but I have - tried to - read up on how it is done - and it's not easy! Incidentally: 1. You should really be asking in the IBMTCP-L list since that's where this sort of expertise mainly resides: post tail For IBMTCP-L subscribe /

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Thanks Chris, I'll try to ask the question in TCP-L and respond here with some answers. Few years ago I did this to config a Mackinney product that used to send SMS messages, but I don;t recall how I did it... ITschak On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Scott Rowe
Timothy, Even if there was no kneecapping, there could still be CPUs turned off and on, so the minimal configuration would be a single CPU z9BC, not a 7 way. Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com 3/7/2010 6:35 AM Peter Farley writes: But Tim, there *aren't* any smaller mainframe

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Doug Not sure I understand your question. Ditto! This is a logical problem involving RFC 2355 negotiation and Communications Server TN3270E server PROFILE statements - until I have a more convincing description of what it is all about! Incidentally Itschak's display connection works so the

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread zMan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: Timothy, Even if there was no kneecapping, there could still be CPUs turned off and on, so the minimal configuration would be a single CPU z9BC, not a 7 way. Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Bill Fairchild
Do you mean that you have been successful at keeping yourself fully occupied with plenty of work from clients eager to engage your services, or that you have been successful at putting yourself out of a job just as quickly as possible and at the least cost to them? Bill Fairchild Software

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
Let's not be bit wise, and byte foolish. There is merit in intentionally overcapcitating not just in MIPS, but also DASD. I don't see anyone complaining about 64-bit memory being to much and asking to bring back Expanded Storage and paging. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, zMan

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Henke They key to control is knowledge, withholding information. Indeed. Witness the publick edjamacation racket. Have you ever had a plumber, electrician, or car mechanic, just shrug his shoulders, give

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
The ;-) (wink) should say it all. The great paradox is that when you try to serve the client and make him no dependent on you by sharing as much information as possible, it is good business, and he want you even more. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: Do

Re: PCOM attached printer and TN3270E

2010-03-08 Thread Doug Fuerst
It sounds like you are using an OSA adapter as an OSC adapter for terminal (TN3270 or Console) access. I have my printer configured to the address of the IP stack in the MF, the LU is the printer LU I defined in VTAM, and I am using port 23. I connect immediately. Status screen indicates

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes: I don't know about a total IT budget of $38k, but in 1975 licensed software was pretty much a novelty. The first priced

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT!

2010-03-08 Thread John Eells
It was a nice weekend off, and *then* I checked IBM-MAIN... I can understand why people might be upset over this rumor, but I asked around, and there are no current plans to discontinue funding for Redbooks in 2011 or past that. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie

Assist on Site question (AOS)

2010-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
We are getting pushback from our security folks on setting up the connections for AOS since it allows IBM to gain control of our Windows Desktop session, which is a violation of our security policies. Has anyone else run into this issue? If so, how did you get around it? TIA, Jon Jon L.

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT!

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Strauss
I actually asked one of my friends that writes these manuals for IBM and he confirmed it is a rumor. Can this put an end to these emails on the Redbook subject? Thank You, Paul Strauss Integrated Technology Delivery, Global Services, IBM L0DB z/OS MVS/Program Products/Security 150 Kettletown

Re: RMM Multi-Volume volume list

2010-03-08 Thread Greg Shirey
Here is the command line version: TSO RMM SV VOLUME(xx) CHAIN LIMIT(*) You can enter any volume in the chain and the result will bring back the volumes in sequence. If the volume is not part of a chain, it just returns the one volume. HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Co. -Original

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Without identifying individuals I have it on good authority that IBM intended to stop developing the REDBOOK Series of publications. Without identifying individuals, all you have is hearsay. Anyways, this is the last I'm going to say on this until I hear an official stance from IBM, either

tso/e logon panel

2010-03-08 Thread Tim Brown
I have seen in the past references to the ability to change the TSO/E logon panel. I attempted this quite some time ago but put it off. I cant recall what the TSO/E module is. I saw that someone had disabled the new password field. We have a 3rd party software that changes the password for TSO

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The contention was that IBM shipping capacity that isn't used doesn't make sense. A contention which I disagree with. It's cheaper to build one type of chip/card, and use other methods to limit capacity, which is what software pricing is based on. I knew, in the mid-1980's, when IBM introduced

Re: tso/e logon panel

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kline
Check the section titled Customizing logon panels and logon help panels in the TSO/E Customization manual. I have seen in the past references to the ability to change the TSO/E logon panel. I attempted this quite some time ago but put it off. I cant recall what the TSO/E module is. I saw that

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series - NOT!

2010-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
there are no current plans to discontinue funding for Redbooks in 2011 or past that. IBM: 3 IBM-Main: 0 - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Assist on Site question (AOS)

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:14:37 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com wrote: We are getting pushback from our security folks on setting up the connections for AOS since it allows IBM to gain control of our Windows Desktop session, which is a violation of our security policies. Has anyone else

Re: Assist on Site question (AOS)

2010-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Has anyone else run into this issue? If so, how did you get around it? I waited until one of the policy makers had a Windows problem that, without AOS, would cost the corporation real money to solve. Actually, while I don't remember the name of it, it was a similar product, and we had similar

Re: Assist on Site question (AOS)

2010-03-08 Thread Bob Shannon
Other than that, I guess you just have to try and use common sense (which I know is hard with auditors) to convince them of the benefits of return to service by letting IBM have this sort of access in an outage situation or after an outage. Years ago I worked at the same company as Jon. We

Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I need to do a interlocked update of two disjoint areas. That might include getting storage (if not yet allocated). The old way would be to setlock, see if the area1 was allocated, if not allocate and store the anchor1. Then allocate area2 and save its pointer in a linked list off of area1. The

Re: Assist on Site question (AOS)

2010-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
No problems sending dumps but we had to request access to do that. As far as don't ask don't tell, someone already told so we can't do that. I remember having to type in commands for IBM when we had RSVSF and it was one way of honing dump reading skills, but it got to be too tedious and slow so

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
Agreed. So the next time I fill up at the gas station the price should be based on horsepower. All the SUV's should pay vastlly more for the same gas that I use for my Honda Civic. I always use high-test since high-octane is always better even for small cars, better mileage and cooler running

Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

2010-03-08 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Has any progress been bade to make SoftCopy Librarian security aware? (Using FTP/TLS specifically). We are not allowed to use non secure FTP to the mainframe due to PCI constraints. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

CSV and Duplicate ALIASes

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Motivated by the recent Directed Load thread in another list: Suppose that (necessarily different) data sets in the programmer's STEPLIB concatenation contain: load module FRED with ALIAS WOMBAT load module JOE with ALIAS WOMBAT and the programmer issues: LOAD FRED LOAD JOE

Re: tso/e logon panel

2010-03-08 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:49:55 -0500, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote: I have seen in the past references to the ability to change the TSO/E logon panel. I attempted this quite some time ago but put it off. I cant recall what the TSO/E module is. I saw that someone had disabled the new password

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s) How can anyone have too many mainframe MIPS? Really?

Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

2010-03-08 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Has any progress been bade to make SoftCopy Librarian security aware? (Using FTP/TLS specifically). We are not allowed to use non secure FTP to the mainframe due to PCI constraints. Might AT-TLS be

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Rob Scott
Binyamin, Why not use the PLO CSTST (compare swap and triple store) ? Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

2010-03-08 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We are trying to see if that will work but currently our FTP server is coded to have AUTH required, and so AT-TLS doesn't help (at least that's what we think - I have my network guy working on brainstorming as I type) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s) Agreed. So the next time I fill up at the gas station the

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread zMan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:24 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: So the next time I fill up at the gas station the price should be based on horsepower. All the SUV's should pay vastlly more for the same gas that I use for my Honda Civic. Well, they do pay more for their vehicles --

Re: CSV and Duplicate ALIASes

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: Motivated by the recent Directed Load thread in another list: Suppose that (necessarily different) data sets in the programmer's STEPLIB concatenation contain: load module FRED with ALIAS WOMBAT load module

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Scott Rowe
Wow, what an inappropriate analogy. George Henke gahe...@gmail.com 3/8/2010 12:24 PM Agreed. So the next time I fill up at the gas station the price should be based on horsepower. All the SUV's should pay vastlly more for the same gas that I use for my Honda Civic. I always use high-test

Re: SORT question: How to store record count in existing trailer?

2010-03-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi Frank, I just got around to trying your solution, and it works well EXCEPT... I need the output trailer count to be UNsigned zoned decimal. I tried specifying TO=UFF, but it did not like that: OPTION COPY * ADD SEQNUM BETWEEN RDW AND DATA.

Re: SORT question: How to store record count in existing trailer?

2010-03-08 Thread Frank Yaeger
Peter Farley wrote on 03/08/2010 10:53:05 AM: I just got around to trying your solution, and it works well EXCEPT... I need the output trailer count to be UNsigned zoned decimal. Is there any way I can make the trailer count unsigned ZD? I tried specifying TO=UFF, but it did not like that:

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
George Henke wrote: Capacity based pricing has nothing but greed written all over it. I'm glad IBM and many ISVs offer such steep discounts to smaller customers that choose to enable/use only a subset of the potential processing capacity available on the z10. Without those discounts, many

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread McKown, John
snip Give a man a fish, and he will eat today. Teach a man how to fish, and he will feed himself. I prefer: Give a man a fish, and he will eat today. Teach a man how to fish, and his wife will never see him on the weekends again. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hey Scott, Actually I thought it was quite appropriate of an analogy, just not what George expected. :-) To George's assertion that capacity-based pricing doesn't make sense: I DO pay more for gas for my SUV than I do for my smaller car (not per gallon, but definitely per trip) - simply

Re: SORT question: How to store record count in existing trailer?

2010-03-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
M11 is exactly what I needed, thank you very much! Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SORT question: How to store record

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
It is comforting to know that satire is alive and well in IT. How boring life would be without it. However, as I recall it being explained to me by another, the tier based pricings started when a big outsourcer (EDS?) would bid for small companies' IT business. EDS was cheaper because they had a

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s) -- OCTANE of CPUs

2010-03-08 Thread Thompson, Steve
SNIPPAGE So the next time I fill up at the gas station the price should be based on horsepower. All the SUV's should pay vastlly more for the same gas that I use for my Honda Civic. I always use high-test since high-octane is always better even for small cars, better mileage and cooler

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So the next time I fill up at the gas station the price should be based on horsepower. Actually, that analogy is a bit flawed. Higher horsepower requires, usually, more gas/octane. So, at the same price per gallon, the more powerful vehicles are already 'penalised'. - Too busy driving to stop

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
That won't help. To make it more clear, I have a local ASVT with a slot for each address space. If a task needs my services I would like to track the address space (in the ASVT slot) as well as a linked list of the tasks using the service chained off of the ASCB slot. Additional tasks in this

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Y Odo
We used to be a VM and MVS shop (so I guess I'm one of those few who have experience with both). We ran VM just to run multiple MVS guests. A couple of those guests were for our Computer Science department to use for teaching purposes so VM was nice (all they had to do was login and IPL -- no

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Ken Porowski
The higher octane is usually required to prevent preignition/detonation. A high performance engine (hp/displacement) can require a higher octane even with todays engine management computers. Note that this is not limited to the high horsepower engines, even a economy car can require a high octane

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Dave Day
SNIP That won't help. To make it more clear, I have a local ASVT with a slot for each address space. If a task needs my services I would like to track the address space (in the ASVT slot) as well as a linked list of the tasks using the service chained off of the ASCB slot. Additional tasks in

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes: A contention which I disagree with. It's cheaper to build one type of chip/card, and use other methods to limit

Re: History; was z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip--- Hershey bars cost a nickel) -unsnip--- I'm dating myself, but I can remember buying Hershey bars at two for a nickel.

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Scott Rowe
Yes, using the quantity of gas required, rather than the unit cost makes much more sense. Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com 3/8/2010 2:22 PM Hey Scott, Actually I thought it was quite appropriate of an analogy, just not what George expected. :-) To George's assertion that

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire book. The contention was that IBM shipping capacity that isn't used doesn't make sense. unsnip- But it

Re: History; was z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
---SNIP --snip--- Town Country charge seems right but do not remember.

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread zMan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: -snip Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire book. The contention was that IBM shipping capacity that isn't used doesn't make sense.

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- Do you mean that you have been successful at keeping yourself fully occupied with plenty of work from clients eager to engage your services, or that you have been successful at putting yourself out of a job just as quickly as

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Y Odo
George Henke wrote: Also, it should be noted, that IBM offers z/VM virtually for free to hospitals and universities as long as they use it for research. and that's the rub. why the requirement that it be used ONLY for research? none of the other vendors have such restrictions. that's one

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- Give a man a fish, and he will eat today. Teach a man how to fish, and he will feed himself. unsnip--- Give a man a fish and he will eat today. Teach a man how to

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka writes: Can I ask where are new customers of this very affordable platform? Many (though not all) are in the developing world. That's why it's called developing, I guess. :-) Some places need new credit card processing systems (to pick an example) because they don't have them.

VSE JCL question

2010-03-08 Thread Donald Johnson
Hi friends! I have some z/OS JCL that I am trying to convert to VSE, and am brand new to VSE. Can someone point me toward a JCL reference guide that might help in converting JCL, or could you tell me if what I am doing is even possible? I have a SYSIN file that has a series of commands,

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
step...@hawaii.edu (Stephen Y Odo) writes: and that's the rub. why the requirement that it be used ONLY for research? none of the other vendors have such restrictions. that's one of the biggest reasons we're moving off of the mainframe ... telcos faced something similar with dark fiber and

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Y Odo
Mike Myers wrote: That's interesting to me that you would suggest IBM will give z/VM for free to hospitals. I am presently consulting at a hospital that is moving away from z/OS and moving their primary applications to the mid-range. I would like to get the to look at using the mainframe

Re: VSE JCL question

2010-03-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
On 03/08/2010 03:20 PM, Donald Johnson wrote: Hi friends! I have some z/OS JCL that I am trying to convert to VSE, and am brand new to VSE. Can someone point me toward a JCL reference guide that might help in converting JCL, or could you tell me if what I am doing is even possible? I have a

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Comstock
Timothy Sipples wrote: Radoslaw Skorupka writes: Can I ask where are new customers of this very affordable platform? Many (though not all) are in the developing world. That's why it's called developing, I guess. :-) Some places need new credit card processing systems (to pick an example)

Re: VSE JCL question

2010-03-08 Thread Chuck Arney
Have the VSE program read the first set of input instream and then open a sequential input file and read the other data from there. In VSE instream data simply follows the EXEC statement and terminates with /*. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 March 2010 15:43, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: -snip Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire book. The contention was that IBM shipping capacity that isn't used doesn't make sense.

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
step...@hawaii.edu (Stephen Y Odo) writes: Thus we paid regular price (less 15% academic institution discount). Which made it way too expensive for us. And paved the way for our migration to Solaris (which was FREE whether we used it for academic OR research OR administrative purposes). I

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:27:07 -0600 Dave Day david...@consolidated.net wrote: :I have a similar function within my code, and use a LATCH to serialize. When the server comes up, it defines the set of Latches needed. Both PASN=HASN and PASN ne HASN code that runs in my address space use the

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
Is that still true Stephen ?. I hear talk that (in the non-education world) Oracle is now charging for Solaris security fixes. Larry trying to claw back some of his investment maybe. Shane ... On Tue, Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Stephen Y Odo wrote: ... And paved the way for our migration to

DB/2 V7 and z/OS 1.11

2010-03-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, is anyone out there running DB/2 V7 on z/OS 1.11? And if so did you have any problems moving V7 to 1.11? == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If

JES2 and Printing

2010-03-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, is there any way to print a spool file and then retain it in the spool after it prints? I don't want to have to start and stop the file before it gets to the end of file. == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Dave Day
SNIP Would a latch outperform a lock? My thought to use PLO is that it is direct hardware serialization. SNIP As far as the codepath length for latch vs. lock, I don't have a clue. Someone from IBM would have to comment on that. The nice thing with latches, as far as I am concerned,

Re: JES2 and Printing

2010-03-08 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Mike, Check the OUTDISP parameter either in your JCL or in a $T JES command. If you change the OUTDISP to KEEP, it will print the dataset then change it's disposition to LEAVE, whereas the normal OUTDISP of WRITE will purge the dataset after it prints. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: JES2 and Printing

2010-03-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
You could use an OUTPUT statement to send print to two places, one the printer queue and the other a held sysout queue if you like. Or you can use SDSF to PRINT to a file or SYSOUT. Lizette Hello all, is there any way to print a spool file and then retain it in the spool after it prints? I

Re: JES2 and Printing

2010-03-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: JES2 and Printing Hello all, is there any way to print a spool file and then retain it in the

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephen Y Odo
dunno. our licensing hasn't been affected ... yet. --Stephen Shane Ginnane wrote: Is that still true Stephen ?. I hear talk that (in the non-education world) Oracle is now charging for Solaris security fixes. Larry trying to claw back some of his investment maybe. Shane ... On Tue,

Re: DB/2 V7 and z/OS 1.11

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel Allen
DB2 v7 stopped running on z/OS 1.10 also. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, is anyone out there running DB/2 V7 on z/OS 1.11? And if so did you have any problems moving V7 to 1.11? == This email and any files transmitted

Entry point for a Mainframe?

2010-03-08 Thread Ken Porowski
In various threads there has been mention of IBM neglecting the entry level or small z/OS shops. Taking a look at the smallest of the z10s available z10-BC 2098-A01 3-MSU (29 MIPS) z10-EC 2097-401 27-MSU (217 MIPS) z10-EC 2097-701 115-MSU (924 MIPS) I wonder what is considered an entry level

Re: DB/2 V7 and z/OS 1.11

2010-03-08 Thread Ward, Mike S
Are you saying that it won't run on 1.11, or that the last release of z/OS it was tested on was 1.10? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread zMan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:45 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: -snip Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire book. The contention was

Re: DB/2 V7 and z/OS 1.11

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel Allen
We run z/OS 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11. The last release of z/OS that DB2 v7 will run on is z/OS 1.9. It will not run on z/OS 1.10 or 1.11. Besides, it is out of service. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Are you saying that it won't run on 1.11, or that the last

Re: IBM Plans to Discontinue REDBOOK Series

2010-03-08 Thread esst...@juno.com
OK, so who do we send our emails to to let IBM know that it's a dumb idea to even consider discontinuing the Redbook Series? And should there be a generic subject line that gets the attention of those individuals and hopefully eliminates get washed in with all the other dirty laundry... You

Re: VSE JCL question

2010-03-08 Thread Donald Johnson
The commands are to my application program. In my z/OS system it would look like this; //SYSIN DD * command1 command2 ... commandn /* // DD DSN=some.other.filename(member),disp=shr // DD * commandx commandy commandz /* On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rich Smrcina

Re: z9 / z10 instruction speed(s)

2010-03-08 Thread George Henke
Failover is but one of many reasons why not using every CPU in the book makes sense. However, George Henke's contention is that kneecapping CPUs is somehow wrong -- that not using all the available speed is a bad idea. Taken to its logical conclusion, not firing up every CPU in the book is also

Re: Several PLO's versus a SETLOCK

2010-03-08 Thread Rob Scott
I think the following outlines how this could be achieved just using PLO CSTST. (o) Have a lock word for your ASID-Vector table that is incremented every time an update is made (does not matter if this values wraps) AVECHEADDSECT AVECHEAD_LOCK

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