Re: Copying HFS file in Bacth

2008-03-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
If you use the provided JCL, keep in mind that while that copy lasts, the OMVS ROOT is effectively blocked (I've got the scars from that). If you want to avoid that, use the magic keyword CONCURRENT. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten

Re: RACF Tool PWDCOPY (ichwpin/ichpwout)

2008-03-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:04:16 +0100, Wolfgang Schäfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to run the ´sample´ IBM password copy utility (PWDCOPY on the IBM RACF website) on z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8. The tool runs without errors, but the copied password could not be used. Has anyone recently used this

Re: RACF Tool PWDCOPY (ichwpin/ichpwout)

2008-03-10 Thread Wolfgang Schäfer
Thanks to all who replied. This was very helpful. Even if the result turns out not to be what I like. Regards Wolfgang Schaefer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:35:09 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question that is akin to: How high is up? How long is a piece of string? Ted, thanks for reply, We need some context: Are the jobs taking too long? definitely - and what more - we expect that in a year these

Updating entries in ACF2 using flat files

2008-03-10 Thread Parin Gangar
Hello all, I wanted to know if it's possible to update an entry in ACF2 using a flat file. We have a utility ACFRPTSL that allows us to pull reports from ACF2 in pre-defined format. Can ACF2 accept input in same format and update the entries ? Thanks. -- Parin Gangar

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread Sorensen Henrik (KSFI 442)
I have used DFSORT to sort much larger datasets (400 Mio rows) in much shorter elapsedtime. Using dataclasses that support compaction helped. The keytrick is to split the datasets and sort each split-ds in parallel, and finally to a merge of the datasets. hope this helps Henrik Sorensen

Re: Updating entries in ACF2 using flat files

2008-03-10 Thread John P Kalinich
Paran Gangar of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/10/2008 07:14:14 AM: I wanted to know if it's possible to update an entry in ACF2 using a flat file. We have a utility ACFRPTSL that allows us to pull reports from ACF2 in pre-defined format. Can ACF2 accept

DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread McKown, John
We tried, and failed, to migrate from our MONOPLEX to a two system basic sysplex yesterday. There were a number of problems. One really weird one occurred after I had taken down the new z/OS image and done the appropriate shutdown of it (V XCF,...,OFFLINE, reply DOWN on the remaining system, after

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread David Betten
Chris, Since I joined the team as the performance lead a couple years ago, Frank now defers these types of questions to me. Everything you (and all the others that responded) have said are good points about DFSORT performance. But the multitude of recommendations just reiterates the point

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
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Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY

2008-03-10 Thread Craddock, Chris
JC writes The QEDIT doc (z/OS 1.7 edition of the AAS manual) is rather sparse, and doesn't seem to address the rejected-task busy situation. You're being a bit generous there aren't you John? :-) To be merely sparse might imply a level of detail that's entirely absent from this doc! AFAIK this

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY

2008-03-10 Thread Wayne Bell
JC, The QEDIT macro has a parameter, CIBCTR=n, that tells the system how many messages may be queued for that program. As the program reads the messages and dequeues them, you can enter more MODIFY commands to the program. If you enter messages (MODIFY) faster than the program responds to

Re: Exponential growth (was how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?)

2008-03-10 Thread Blaicher, Chris
In this context, sorting and the exponential nature of it, it would have been better to use a log base 2 example, rather than a natural log example. The generalized cost of sorting is log2(n) compares per record. That said, in the last 15 years CPU time has not been a major factor in how long

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:53:10 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote DELETE (PRIMV.PPO.XDF) 0IKJ56241I DATA SET PRIMV.PPO.XDF NOT ALLOCATED IKJ56241I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB OR USER IDC0551I ** ENTRY PRIMV.PPO.XDF NOT DELETED 0IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST

Re: Exponential growth (was how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?)

2008-03-10 Thread John P. Baker
Chris, Thanks for the correction. Yes, Log2 would offer a better guide than logN for the analysis of sort performance characteristics. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Chris Sent: 03/10/2008 10:34 AM

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread Frank Yaeger
Chris Blaicher wrote on 03/09/2008 09:48:05 PM: I hope Frank weighs in on this. Chris, You've got the wrong guy. I'm the DFSORT function guy (ICETOOL, PARSE, IFTHEN, Symbols, etc). Dave Betten is our DFSORT Performance Team leader and he has already posted offering to help. Frank Yaeger -

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think most shops have ISRDDN as it is shipped with ISPF. Just issue TSO ISRDDN on the command line. Then issue ENQ You can then put in the dataset name or just look and see what is enqueued. Lizette quote DELETE (PRIMV.PPO.XDF) 0IKJ56241I DATA SET PRIMV.PPO.XDF NOT ALLOCATED

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
Lizette Koehler wrote: Just issue TSO ISRDDN on the command line. These days, you simply issue the DDLIST command directly to ISPF. No TSO command needed. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL

Re: ADR402E - AUTHORIZATION CHECK FAILED FOR DATA SET...

2008-03-10 Thread John P Kalinich
Willie Bunter of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/10/2008 08:50:58 AM: Good Morning To All, I am using the COPYVOLID option to transfer disks from one controller to another. The job failed because of : ADR402E (001)-AUTH (26), AUTHORIZATION CHECK FAILED

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:12:19 -0400, David Betten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pawel, It's really hard to say what is a good sorting rate. There are so many factors that can impact the performance of the sort. File characteristics, i/o contention, storage resources, etc. I have seen customer

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Jack Kelly
The WhoHas generally checks the SYSDSN enque and if the file is enqueued on another resource, it won't be found, eg enqueued to PDF edit( I know that's not germane to this example) doesn't show on most WhoHas's. So a check of the QCBs for the DSN may be the only way. Knowing what the DSN is

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY

2008-03-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris JC writes The QEDIT doc (z/OS 1.7 edition of the AAS manual) is rather sparse, and doesn't seem to address the rejected-task busy situation. You're being a bit generous there aren't you

Re: Measuring PAV success

2008-03-10 Thread gsg
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Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Todd Burch
Running z/OS 1.9. Running this, I get a match. /* rexx */ offset1 = “E0” ; offset2 = “E8” ; if (offset1 = offset2) then say “MATCH!” ; else say “NO MATCH!” What does it return on your system? Thanks, Todd No virus found in this outgoing

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
Todd, Todd, You're comparing zero in exponential form to zero in exponential form. You're not the first to get tripped up by this, believe me. Use == (exactly equal) instead: if (offset1 == offset2) then say “MATCH!” ; Mark L. Wheeler IT Infrastructure, 3M Center B224-4N-20, St Paul MN 55144

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Todd Burch
Ah yes. Duh. Thanks Mark! Todd, You're comparing zero in exponential form to zero in exponential form. You're not the first to get tripped up by this, believe me. Use == (exactly equal) instead: if (offset1 == offset2) then say “MATCH!” ; Mark L. Wheeler No virus found in

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread John P. Baker
Use if (offset1 == offset2) ... John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Burch Sent: 03/10/2008 1:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx bug? Running z/OS 1.9. Running this, I get a match. /* rexx */

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Roberto Halais
I'm running zOS 1.4 and I get MATCH IF I use the == comparison in the IF then I get NO MATCH On 3/10/08, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running z/OS 1.9. Running this, I get a match. /* rexx */ offset1 = E0 ; offset2 = E8 ; if (offset1 = offset2) then say MATCH! ;

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:14:45 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lizette Koehler wrote: Just issue TSO ISRDDN on the command line. These days, you simply issue the DDLIST command directly to ISPF. No TSO command needed. I just issue DD - but it is in my site commands as an alias

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:57 -0400, Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WhoHas generally checks the SYSDSN enque and if the file is enqueued on another resource, it won't be found, eg enqueued to PDF edit( I know that's not germane to this example) doesn't show on most WhoHas's. So a check of

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:11:30 -0600 Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Running z/OS 1.9. :Running this, I get a match. :/* rexx */ :offset1 = “E0” ; :offset2 = “E8” ; :if (offset1 = offset2) then say “MATCH!” ; == :else say “NO MATCH!” -- Binyamin Dissen

Re: ADR402E - AUTHORIZATION CHECK FAILED FOR DATA SET...

2008-03-10 Thread willie bunter
John, We are using ACF2 as well. I will pass on your suggestion. Thanks. John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Willie Bunter of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/10/2008 08:50:58 AM: Good Morning To All, I am using the COPYVOLID option to transfer disks from one

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread J R
The WhoHas generally checks the SYSDSN enque and if the file is enqueued on another resource, it won't be found In the case of IKJ56241I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB OR USER, a SYSDSN enqueue is the only one that's relevant. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:57 -0400 From: [EMAIL

Unable To Delete Archived Dataset

2008-03-10 Thread esmie moo
Good Day Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete this dataset MILDCOP.NPR256D.CNTLNLDSVOLD. Yes, the last qualifier is correct. This dsn was migrated by DMS. I tried a del nscr purge but I got the error message :ITEM DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS. I also tried IEHPROGM to no

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Todd, What is your intent with this comparison? Do you want to compare two quoted character strings or do you want to compare the numeric (hexadecimal) values? If the latter, shouldn't you have coded either offset1 = E0X; offset2 = E8X; Or offset1 = x2d(E0); offset2 =

Re: Unable To Delete Archived Dataset

2008-03-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Looks like someone managed to create an invalid dataset name by accidentally specifying JCL with a dataset name in quotes, e.g., //DD1 DD DSN='MILDCOP.NPR256D.CNTLNLDSVOLD',DISP=...etc. To delete the dataset, try an IEFBR14 - step with //DD1 DD

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread John P. Baker
Ulrich, As long as his intent is a simple equality/inequality test, ==/ will work fine, in so far as the offsets are both presented with the same length and in the same case. A requirement for x2d(...) will only arise if the offsets are presented with the possibility of differing lengths,

Re: Unable To Delete Archived Dataset

2008-03-10 Thread Richard Peurifoy
esmie moo wrote: Good Day Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete this dataset MILDCOP.NPR256D.CNTLNLDSVOLD. Yes, the last qualifier is correct. This dsn was migrated by DMS. I tried a del nscr purge but I got the error message :ITEM DOES NOT ADHERE TO RESTRICTIONS. I also tried

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Todd Burch
Actually, gave me the same false positive that = did. Changing the comparison to strictly equal worked fine. I am writing a rexx exec to parse some assembler listings to compare field offsets in DSECTS across product releases. For the intent of my compare, comparing the E0 and E8

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
offset1 = E0 ; offset2 = E8 ; if (offset1 = offset2) then say MATCH! ; else say NO MATCH! John, I'm a little confused now ... Todd said that his comparison returned 'match'. If REXX executed a comparison of two equal-length character strings, then a 'match' - result would be

Re: Unable To Delete Archived Dataset

2008-03-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
In my mind the question is: Does the data set physically exist? If it does not, then a DEL name NOSCRATCH NOPURGE will remove the entry from the catalog. If it does exist, then it is possible that ISMF will allow you to delete it. Some of the other suggestions may work. Lizette Good Day

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Big Iron
There is a \== operator which means not exactly equal to. Bill On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:45:14 -0600, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, gave me the same false positive that = did. Changing the comparison to strictly equal worked fine. I am writing a rexx exec to parse some

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
Converting the offsets to hex or decimal would have also avoided the problem, but it was overhead I didn't want to spend. Another option is to add some character to the string so REXX doesn't interpret it as zero in exponential form. For example: offset1 = ? “E0” ; offset2 = ? “E8” ;

SV: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Thomas Berg
Everything is character strings in REXX. Some character strings can be interpreted as numeric values... Consider: var1 = 123 var2 = 5 var3 = var1 * var2 /* gives var3 = 615 */ REXX make a numeric compare if possible. Thomas Berg

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:51:47 -0700 Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Only if REXX interpreted the two character strings as numerical values in :exponent notation (0**0 and 0**8) and performed a numerical comparison, :would a 'match' - result be expected. But why? Because, in REXX,

Re: Unable To Delete Archived Dataset

2008-03-10 Thread esmie moo
Ulrich, I tried your suggestion. The job ran successfully with a code 0. But it did not delete the dsn. I also tried the suggestion to F CATALOG,DISABLE(DSNCHECK) but because my userid does not have authorization the command was not permitted. Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread John P. Baker
Ulrich, I am a little confused as well, since I ran the test under VM and received Mo Match in both cases. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Krueger Sent: 03/10/2008 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Because, in REXX, everything is a string. X = 3 and X = 3 leave the same value in X. And in both cases, the DATATYPE of X would be NUMERIC? That shouldn't be. If my intent is to perform a character string comparison and the value just so happens to look like a number, I might get bad

DDLIST (Was: DSN ENQ conflict)

2008-03-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
Eric Bielefeld wrote: I tried DDLIST on both my production 1.4 system and my 1.7 test lpar. It doesn't work on either. I looked in my SITE commands in ISPF 3.9, and found the following entry: DDN 0 SELECT CMD(ISRDDN) NEWAPPL(DDN) Is that the same thing that you were talking

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Only if REXX interpreted the two character strings as numerical values in exponent notation (0**0 and 0**8) and performed a numerical comparison, would a 'match' - result be expected. But why? That's not logical. Todd coded two quoted character strings, didn't he? I had this discussion a few

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:12:39 -0700 Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Because, in REXX, everything is a string. :X = 3 : and :X = 3 : leave the same value in X. :And in both cases, the DATATYPE of X would be NUMERIC? Yes. :That shouldn't be. It certainly SHOULD. :If my intent is

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I tried DDLIST on both my production 1.4 system and my 1.7 test lpar. It doesn't work on either. I looked in my SITE commands in ISPF 3.9, and found the following entry: DDN 0 SELECT CMD(ISRDDN) NEWAPPL(DDN) Is that the same thing that you were talking about? Edward Jaffe

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/08/2008 at 02:31 PM, Gregory Pinkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Question is: do I have to reset any secondary time of day clock that the HDC (this is some kind of Z9 with a HDC that I think runs some kind of UNIX as its embedded system??) uses for things like

Re: Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/09/2008 at 12:21 AM, Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm proud of what I do and who I work for, unlike the people who don't sign their email or use a non-company address to post to the list. Sometimes people use personal e-mail for IBM-MAIN because company

Re: DSN ENQ conflict - debugging after the fact.

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:07:36 -0600, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried DDLIST on both my production 1.4 system and my 1.7 test lpar. It doesn't work on either. I looked in my SITE commands in ISPF 3.9, and found the following entry: DDN 0 SELECT CMD(ISRDDN) NEWAPPL(DDN)

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:16:26 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: They are not going to change after 30 years because that would break too many things. That may not be logical, but that's how it works. It's the rules. We gotta deal with it. I recently had the complementary problem coding an awk script

Re: DDLIST (Was: DSN ENQ conflict)

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
You are right. I browsed my ISPCMDS member in SISPTENU, and it does have DDLIST in it. We have our own table library concatenated in front of the IBM library with an ISPCMDS member. I know how to change it, but that is the kind of thing that has to be done by our outsourcer, so I doubt if it

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:16:26 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The simple answer is that the designed the interpreter that way. Whenever possible numeric strings are interpreted as numbers first, unless you perform unnatural acts of coding, regardless of whether you quote it or

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Todd Burch
Yes, I've been coding in REXX since '84 (VM back then for me). I have hit this before, but it's been many, many years. Since I started coding in Ruby, I hate it when I have to put my rexx hat back on. Rexx was my favorite, but it's still the best I have for z/OS. Todd -Original

Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation

2008-03-10 Thread McKown, John
I know that MIM/Allocation is more powerful in that it can span multiple sysplexes and has more options. However, in a single basic sysplex environment with only two members, it is really worth my while to set up MIM/Allocation? We have it because we use MIM/Integrity (mainly to automatically

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:16:26 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: They are not going to change after 30 years because that would break too many things. That may not be logical, but that's how it works. It's the rules. We gotta deal with it. I recently had the complementary

Re: Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:26:10 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that MIM/Allocation is more powerful in that it can span multiple sysplexes and has more options. However, in a single basic sysplex environment with only two members, it is really worth my while to set up

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Wayne Bell
Steve, First of all, you forced both the second and third lines to characters by having characters in both lines. So they would both produce '22'. But to add to the confusion, here is the simple program that I wrote: /* REXX */ X = 2 + 2; Y = 2 + 2; SAY Second 2 Quoted: SAY X; SAY First

Re: Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation

2008-03-10 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation [snip] So what are you doing today to share tape

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:40 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: As long as TZ is set properly, an OS/2 or Unix system will automatically switch to and from DST. There's a paradigm shift required here. The core UNIX function, localtime() does not automatically switch to and from DST. Rather,

Re: John's System Split (was Tape switching: ...)

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:56:40 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If interested, the reasoning goes that since we cannot get all of our work done during month-end because production soaks the CPU totally, the non-production work is be unjustly penalized. This will be fixed by putting the

Re: Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation

2008-03-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It will be a basic sysplex because nobody would pony up the $173,000 USD to get a CFL for our z9BC. First, itym icf -- cfl stands for Canadian Football League. Second, I thought the prices were closer to $73,000 US. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Wayne Bell wrote: Steve, First of all, you forced both the second and third lines to characters by having characters in both lines. So they would both produce '22'. Well, I actually ran a separate test at the same time: System.out.println(In main); System.out.println(2 + quoted

Re: Tape switching: Autoswitch vs MIM/Allocation

2008-03-10 Thread Patrick Falcone
Jeez John, I'd rather do the proof of concept on the current setup, WLM prior to plex, than go to a setup, plex, that could cause additional degradation and then maybe have to go back but I guess that's all water under the bridge at this point. I know I'm preaching to the choir but don't

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread William H. Blair
Paul Gilmartin wrote: I believe this is in contrast to the z/OS STCKCONV service. however, I can not find in the docmentation (z/OS V1R7.0 MVS Assembler Services Reference IAR-XCT) whether STCKCONV returns local time or GMT nor how Daylight Saving and Leap Seconds are handled (possibly in

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Is CDT really 7 hours off from GMT? -Original Message- From: William H. Blair Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: clock, daylight savings time snip This produces the following output today (for the Central Daylight Savings Time Zone) [with

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Bob Rutledge
The service corresponding to localtime() is TIME, not STCKCONV. Bob Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:40 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: As long as TZ is set properly, an OS/2 or Unix system will automatically switch to and from DST. There's a paradigm shift required

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread William H. Blair
Barry A Schwarz wrote: Is CDT really 7 hours off from GMT? No. I was confused about the time zone on the machine on which I tested the code. I have access to systems with various time zone offsets. That was really PDT (Pacific Daylight Time), not Central Daylight Time (CDT) as I stated.

Re: Tapeless backup

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008 at 02:11 PM, Leitner, Timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We are exploring different options and the wintel side of the house is heading down the totally tapeless path. What are you backing up? Why? Which tapeless path? If you have to protect against, e.g.,

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:11:39 -0500, William H. Blair wrote: I believe this is in contrast to the z/OS STCKCONV service. however, I can not find in the docmentation (z/OS V1R7.0 MVS Assembler Services Reference IAR-XCT) whether STCKCONV returns local time or GMT nor how Daylight Saving and

Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/07/2008 at 12:59 PM, Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello all, I am looking for ideas on ways to transfer reports/sysouts from one JES2 spool on one lpar to another lpar. Why not NJE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:31:58 -0400, Bob Rutledge wrote: The service corresponding to localtime() is TIME, not STCKCONV. I don't see that. localtime() has as an input a time_t, which is an affine function of physical time; the UNIX analogue of a TOD clock reading. What is the corresponding

Re: Transfer reports from lpar to lpar

2008-03-10 Thread Staller, Allan
It is!! snip snip Pat Mihalec wrote: I haven't been following this but has anyone suggested setting up a CTC between the LPAR's. The connection is setup over Escon channels. Or, better yet, TCP/IP over HiperSockets should be *screaming* fast -- assuming the LPARs are on the same CPC.

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread William H. Blair
Paul Gilmartin wrote: I'm confused. I thought STCKCONV takes as input a TOD clock value, and if you operate as IBM recommends, TOD clock values are always GMT. STCKCONV takes a TOD clock-FORMAT value as input. What that is, or what that input represents, is YOUR business. STCKCONV is just a

Re: clock, daylight savings time

2008-03-10 Thread William H. Blair
Paul Gilmartin wrote: As I see it: The service corresponding to time() is TIME STCK[E],,ZONE=GMT Except for the difference in epoch and radix, the UNIX time() function is conceptually equivalent to z/OS TIME STCK[E],addr or TIME BIN,addr,ZONE=GMT or TIME DEC,addr,ZONE=GMT. (but the

Re: Exponential growth (was how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?)

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/10/2008 at 09:33 AM, Blaicher, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In this context, sorting and the exponential nature of it, it would have been better to use a log base 2 example, rather than a natural log example. When talking about the complexity of an algorithm, it's

Re: how fast can I sort on mainframe (using DFSORT)?

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/09/2008 at 05:41 PM, John P. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What you have to remember is that the time required for a sort does not grow linearly with the number of records, but is an exponential function, No. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/09/2008 at 06:07 PM,

Re: Rexx bug?

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/10/2008 at 11:11 AM, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Running this, I get a match. Yes, because the two strings express the same number. if (offset1 = offset2) then say MATCH! ; else say NO MATCH! Try if (offset1 == offset2) What does it return on your

Re: IEE342I MODIFY REJECTED-TASK BUSY

2008-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/09/2008 at 09:46 PM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh? Why is that? Because for a batch job the address space holds both the Initiator and the job being initiated. Each has a CSCB. CICS runs unauthorized That's not relevant to the JOB versus STC

Re: upgrading z?OS 1.4 to 1.8 or 1.9

2008-03-10 Thread Bu Dante
Thank you very much to all of you for your comments and giving me confidence from z/OS 1.4 to at least z/OS 1.8 and possibly to 1.9 after I examune 3rd party products for compatibility. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /