Peter,
If there is an IBM problem with LSQA cleanup in an initiator, then
IBM in all likelihood will not wash their hands of it.
I beg to differ slightly. I had reported problems that were NOT fixed by IBM.
They were deep in DFP code and I was told that fixing them would be too big of
a risk
Let me just say that IBM wants us to change this program to run as STC
and not JOB. They want to wash their hands of LSQA cleanup in an INIT.
I find this conclusion extremely unlikely. They (we) might want you to
change the program to run as STC so that you can avoid your own program's
problem.
] On Behalf Of
Edward Jaffe
Sent: 09 January 2008 06:38
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
Craddock, Chris wrote:
Er... yup that would be it :-)
a senior moment
As in Senior Vice President? ;-)
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Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
If a JOB (NOT STC) is cancelled, it appears that its LSQA storage is
not
cleaned up (I will use ELSQA for above the line). Over a period of
days
with a JOB here and there being
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge
Craddock, Chris wrote:
I could have sworn there was a new keyword something like
STOPREGIONLOSS, to cause initiators to periodically recycle
instead of
giving S822 abends, but now I can't find
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott
SVP ?
And there is me thinking CC's new job title was Director And
Reseach Technology Head ... :-)
Along with Vice Assistant Director Entomological Reduction, aka ORKIN
Man? :-D
-jc-
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve
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VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
SNIP
Thanx, I think this may be what we need to do.
And like I originally said, this is a 90% IBM Vanilla shop. We have NO
exits that are involved in this area. We know that RACROUTE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote:
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:52 PM
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Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
Craddock, Chris wrote:
I
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Craddock, Chris wrote:
I could have sworn there was a new keyword something like
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote:
And like I originally said, this is a 90% IBM Vanilla shop. We have NO
exits that are involved in this area.
No exits that run in the address space? you are sure? Not even SMF exits?
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote:
And like I originally
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote:
And like I originally said, this is a 90% IBM Vanilla shop. We have NO
exits that are involved in this area.
No exits that run in the address space? you are sure? Not even SMF exits?
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When did this start happening? After an OS
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Behalf Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:07:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote:
And like I originally
Rob Scott said
SVP ? And there is me thinking CC's new job title was Director And
Reseach
Technology Head ... :-)
Nah, only Mr Fagen (a.k.a. Luke) calls me Darth or Lord Vader but
this whole evil empire thing seems to be catching on...
:-)
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in 1.6 but
that could be completely wrong. I might have heard about it at a TDM or
over a beer. You would have to look in the books to see when it first
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in 1.6 but that
could be completely wrong.
I think it was earlier than that.
I remember (I think) asking about it prior to 1.4, as to how it worked.
I never did get an answer.
Of
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Walt Farrell
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:12 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LSQA orphan storage
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:07:51 -0800, George Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've only
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:52:43 -0500, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in 1.6 but
that could be completely wrong.
You're hazy memory is quite
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:07:51 -0800, George Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've only seen this behavior (ACEE and associated control blocks like CGRP)
when a job does not issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=VERIFY, ENVIR=DELETE. I had to
run a getmain trace to see what job was allocating subpool 255. Found
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:31:45 -0500, Thompson, Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We came to see that we had LSQA (below) growing.
Now that we know what it is, we can even reproduce this on other z/OS
releases than 1.9 1.8. And it appears that we can do it with ANY
program if we can hold it to the
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:31:39 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:52:43 -0500, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in
And after that program has issued ENVIR=DELETE? Whose responsibility
is
it to get rid of them?
ENVIR=DELETE -DOES- delete the ACEE. See the description of the RACROUTE
macro in z/OS V1R9.0 Security Server RACROUTE Macro Reference SA22-7692.
Or here
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/09/2008
12:52:43 PM:
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in 1.6 but
that could be completely wrong. I might have heard
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:31:06 -0500, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use the code, Darth.
BROWSESYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB) Line
Command ===
*/*01* CHANGE-ACTIVITY =
*/*
*/* $D0=DVT0001 HBB6606 971208 PD00H6: DIAGxx Traps
*/* $P1=PWK0348 HBB6608 981026
Craddock, Chris wrote:
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
In which z/OS release did that become available?
My hazy memory says it was a last minute Jim Mulder special in 1.6 but
that could be completely wrong. I might have heard about it at a TDM or
over a beer.
This post should
Any-one else getting bounced trying to hit the links Ed posted ???.
Seems the archive is handled separately.
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This post should spark a memory (since I was responding to you, Chris)
and offer a little insight into the genesis of this idea and its
eventual implementation.
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main-
archivesP=R2529I=1X=-
Hmmm... interesting. When I click on the link, I get a
Shane, Chris,
Have you subscribed to the archives list as per
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0605L=ibm-mainP=R42519I=1X=-
Bob
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(Was: LSQA orphan storage)
Shane, Chris,
Have you subscribed to the archives list as per
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0605L=ibm-mainP=R42519I=1X=-
Bob
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CC wrote on 10/01/2008 09:29:54 AM:
Har-de-har-har. If I can't access the link Ed provided, then how would I
access this one?
The message is bitching about ibm-main-archives, not ibm-main
archives...
Bobs link is not in the -archives, so it can tell you how to get
subscribed to the
The message is bitching about ibm-main-archives, not ibm-main
archives...
Bobs link is not in the -archives, so it can tell you how to get
subscribed to the -archives, so you can then read Eds links.
Thanks Bob, that worked (for Me - dunno about that Craddock fella).
Dang! It worked for me
Craddock, Chris wrote:
Har-de-har-har. If I can't access the link Ed provided, then how would I
access this one?
They are two different lists. Ed's links are to L=ibm-main-archives.
For the record (and somewhat obviously) I -am- subscribed to the list
from this email address -and- I can
Bob said
They are two different lists. Ed's links are to L=ibm-main-archives.
Yep, that was the clue I was missing.
If you can't get to
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0605L=ibm-mainP=R42519I=1X=-
I'm mystified too.
Don't bother being mystified on my account, I just didn't follow
Shane Ginnane wrote:
Any-one else getting bounced trying to hit the links Ed posted ???.
Seems the archive is handled separately.
I found out today (from Darren) that, in order to see the archives, you
must send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES.
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Craddock, Chris wrote:
Now I can see both lists.
Kinda' strange how this is organized. Having to subscribe to an
alternate list to view archives is a first for me. I wonder what happens
if I try to post to it? O:-)
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5200 W Century
I have come upon an interesting situation.
If a JOB (NOT STC) is cancelled, it appears that its LSQA storage is not
cleaned up (I will use ELSQA for above the line). Over a period of days
with a JOB here and there being cancelled (and by chance in the same
INIT), I noticed that the amount of PVT
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:03:42 -0500 Thompson, Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:I have come upon an interesting situation.
:If a JOB (NOT STC) is cancelled, it appears that its LSQA storage is not
:cleaned up (I will use ELSQA for above the line). Over a period of days
:with a JOB here and there
(s) up
when the job was canceled.
George Fogg
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Thompson, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: LSQA orphan storage
I have come upon an interesting
If a JOB (NOT STC) is cancelled, it appears that its LSQA storage is
not
cleaned up (I will use ELSQA for above the line). Over a period of
days
with a JOB here and there being cancelled (and by chance in the same
INIT), I noticed that the amount of PVT available to a JOB was
diminished
CHECKREGIONLOSS by any chance ???
Er... yup that would be it :-)
a senior moment
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Craddock, Chris wrote:
I could have sworn there was a new keyword something like
STOPREGIONLOSS, to cause initiators to periodically recycle instead of
giving S822 abends, but now I can't find anything about it, so maybe I
was just dreaming it.
VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS in DIAGxx.
Bob
I could have sworn there was a new keyword something like
STOPREGIONLOSS, to cause initiators to periodically recycle instead of
giving S822 abends, but now I can't find anything about it, so maybe I
was just dreaming it.
CHECKREGIONLOSS by any chance ???
Craddock, Chris wrote:
Er... yup that would be it :-)
a senior moment
As in Senior Vice President? ;-)
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
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Los Angeles, CA 90045
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