Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-05 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 05 April 2003 11:42 am, you wrote: I thought PDF was a read-only format (correct me if I am wrong) nope. depends on the access priviliges you grant, while creating the PDF. For pre-press quality printing. The best known tool is TEX almost all the Mathematics books actually use

[ilugd]: PDF writer

2003-04-05 Thread LinuxLingam
does this solve your problem? does mention support for hyperlinks. in any case, it does solve one major problem, creating PDF-based forms, digitally signing, and a lot of other blah blah. anyone checked this out yet? haven't seen the license... LL Big Faceless PDF Library 1.2.8

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-05 Thread LinuxLingam
Convert to word document or rtf. Open it in Abiword. Then generate latex file and use pdflatex to generate pdf file. I do'nt no anything shorter then this Yes there is. Wordperfect allows to Save as PDF directly. -- Amit wordperfect still around? available for gnuLinux? where do i get

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-05 Thread LinuxLingam
ambar has tackled issues related to technicalities in your email quite well, tarun. some other stuff: [snip] Heck! Adobe Acrobat produces the best quality PDF's with a variety of proprietary formats because of probably its knowing the format from which it is converting to PDF protected by

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
bishan, good question. sadly, you don't really get professional-grade and feature-rich pdf creators under gnulinux for the moment. you could do some smart searching at pdfzone.com and planetpdf.com and lemme know the results. the pdf-enhancing stuff like highlighting, stickynotes, urls,

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 05 April 2003 09:16 am, you wrote: Convert to word document or rtf. Open it in Abiword. Then generate latex file and use pdflatex to generate pdf file. I do'nt no anything shorter then this that's a lopsided way of doing this. openoffice supports CUPS, and all you need to install

Re: [ilugd]: [OT] Re: : 20Apr ILug Meet

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
You forgot mandatory pizza breaks, swapping of essential manly jokes, bashing M$ whenever context permits(or doesn't), collective wondering of whether ILUGD is still a society or not, redhat bashing, debian worshipping, CD swapping (phew), listening through Raj's jokes, grumbling/chanting

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
IMHO the only option for manipulating PDF files is Adobe Acrobat. No non Adobe licenced PDF software seems to support the spec fully even under Windows. almost true. there are some tools that have come up at planetpdf.com and pdfzone.com that take on acrobat. the only place adobe

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
[posting this on ilug-d as wekk, for the benefit of our brethren...] On Saturday 05 April 2003 02:28 am, you wrote: good question. sadly, you don't really get professional-grade and feature-rich pdf creators under gnulinux for the moment. you could do some smart searching at pdfzone.com and

Re: [ilugd]: pdf writer

2003-04-04 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 05 April 2003 03:02 am, you wrote: [snip] Also do we expect M$ to release XDoc readers for non M$ platforms? I would rather use RTF than use some new M$ format if I have this kind of requirement. For online document delivery it is the only true cross platform file format that

[ilugd]: 20Apr ILug Meet

2003-04-03 Thread LinuxLingam
dear all, just to avoid the last-minute hare-race of march, the next ILUG meet is on the third sunday of the month, as usual. that comes to 20th april 2003. venue? timings: [too hot for 2pm? suggest cooler morning, slightly late afternoon/evening?] agenda [suggested]: 1) gpg key party 2)

[ilugd]: Re: Is it possible to run office software directly from server ???

2003-04-03 Thread LinuxLingam
! who is this dude? sends an email to linuxlingam, rms, linux delhi, linux india, with an unrelated huge email text underneath his message. i also happen to receive four copies of this dude's email. does this romeo fella know linuxlingam? or was this some kinda random russian roulette gone bad

Re: [ilugd]: FW: need help (2 messages)

2003-03-26 Thread LinuxLingam
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 12:06 am, you wrote: sir please send me cd of imoviex2 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: do u have imovix2 for free. pl let me know Regards Rohit Kumar Srivastava dear all, actually, tushar kanwar did download the iMovix2 cd two weeks ago, promised to give

Re: [ilugd]: license for the mailing list

2003-03-25 Thread LinuxLingam
just like we have GPL and LGPL, do we have FDL and the LFDL? i like the idea of the LFDL. ? LL To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at

Re: [ilugd]: Knoppix etc CD resources

2003-03-25 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:51 pm, you wrote: Since Niyam has unleashed a Knoppix storm and I believe some of the list members have the potential to or are ready to supply CDs or the CDs are available easily somewhere, maybe the Website should have a prominent resource link telling where

[ilugd]: *informal* talk by SG?

2003-03-25 Thread LinuxLingam
hi sanjeev, LinuxLingam and Raju said Hi to Dr Ajay Shah on behalf of you at the seminar on copyrights, copyleft, copy consent, held at IIC about 10 days ago. he grinned back. you seem to have a lot of clarity on such issues, without having to claim any official standing for it. that's your

Re: [ilugd]: Minutes of the Meeting

2003-03-22 Thread LinuxLingam
On Sunday 23 March 2003 12:53 am, you wrote: Since both Gagan and LinuxLingam did not turn up, LinuxLingam up all night, hard at work. trying to meet deadlines, deadlines, deadlines, deadlines. sorry could not come. won't disappoint you next meeting. :-) LL

[ilugd]: Fwd: Linux friendly hardware vendors

2003-03-22 Thread LinuxLingam
dear all, any gnuLinux friendly hardware vendors in delhi? please respond if you know, or can suggest contacts, to the email in the forwarded email below, *directly* and do not populate the public mailing lists with your answers. thanks, and best of luck :-) LL -- Forwarded Message

[ilugd]: sun sued for 'favouring' indian workers

2003-03-21 Thread LinuxLingam
yech! Sun Microsystems sued for 'favouring' Indian workers http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/19/1452212 A.Guru prasad writes Sun Microsystems, the Silicon Valley computer giant, was hit with a lawsuit on Monday alleging that the firm laid off thousands of US high-tech

[ilugd]: new GPL wrapper - O-STEP

2003-03-21 Thread LinuxLingam
this sounds like a great idea. LL Making The GPL Easier For Companies To Swallow There is a new GPL wrapper gaining momentum on Capitol Hill. Dubbed O-STEP, the [0]Open Source Threshold Escrow Program allows vendors to license their products until so many millions are made, then

[ilugd]: M$ shared source license ?

2003-03-21 Thread LinuxLingam
dance of the seven veils at M$ ? has someone checked out this story. whaddya think? we could see a GPL-ed windoze, M$office, some day? by then, would it matter? note: am no M$-basher or anything. the day M$ releases it software under GPL, will be the first to be there, welcoming them with open

Re: [ilugd]: CAD

2003-03-20 Thread LinuxLingam
I have a friend who's a heavy user of CAD esp. 3D aspects [snip] His feedback was that though you can do everything in AUTOCAD but it becomes unwieldy for 3D stuff- others like PRO/E are pretty good. PRO-E is available commercially for Linux. ah well, 3D is another cup of chai. we have

Re: [ilugd]: Meeting

2003-03-18 Thread LinuxLingam
Isnt Jamia Hamdard way too far off. Wonderin' how many people really are goin to turn up - Prateek I will. dhruv will. raj will. and am sure about a dozen more may. let us know who else is turning up, in single-line, emails please. LL

Re: [ilugd]: CAD

2003-03-17 Thread LinuxLingam
On Monday 17 March 2003 10:20 am, you wrote: I remember someone talkin about a good CAD software in one of the meets back at sarai. Does anyone have any information 'bout a reasonaby good alternative to AutoCAD. - prateek this question keeps popping up, and will do so more frequently.

Re: [ilugd]: Any Meeting Today??

2003-03-16 Thread LinuxLingam
On Sunday 16 March 2003 07:14 am, you wrote: I have been wondering, if we have a meeting today. No announcements!! Anand no meeting today. some people expressed reservations on stepping out pre-holi. venue, agenda, also not finalized. but we can't let march pass by without a meeting. so i

Re: [ilugd]: Any Meeting Today??

2003-03-16 Thread LinuxLingam
hi dhruv, thanks for your prompt response. On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:53 pm, you wrote: IIT seems fine. Though CP would definitely be much better. i prefer IIT or CP too. agenda: I'm interested. We could start off on quite a few projects actually. Some that i have in mind are :

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
On Friday 14 March 2003 10:20 am, Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta wrote: [heavy-duty snip] LL, please to submit a 400-word paper, distinguishing: meaning of this sentence not clear. perhaps a grammatical mistake. are you submitting a 400-word paper that you are writing? do you wish to submit a 400-word

Re: [ilugd]: why excise?

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
On Friday 14 March 2003 09:39 am, Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta wrote: LinuxLingam wrote: i am suggesting: i) keep the excise on OEM ii) go ahead, charge all software for excise. So basically, I don't care if you increase taxation, because it will hurt my neighbour more? And that will make me

[ilugd]: Re: open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear sanjeev, thanks for your insta-response to the email, and for moving into deeper issues such as 'economic-distortion' effects and the 'yoke of taxation'. brings more light into what we just take for granted. YES!!! You have got it. Tax is a yoke, and we pay it because the State has

Re: [ilugd]: some clarifications sought on excise

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear sanjeev, thanks for your response and making these finer points clear to me. i really appreciate your quoting chapter-and-verse in relevant places as well. [heavy snip] Software is not manufactured, hence the entire issue of Excise on it does not arise. Period. Finis. understood.

[ilugd]: the tax model/method

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear ajith, thank you for your short and splendid response to the discussion. from your inputs, it is clear we are in an era of transition: moving away from indirect taxes to direct taxes, with the onus on making tax collection more efficient. perhaps the imminent introduction of VAT is

Re: [LIG] [ilugd][draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear tarun, thanks for your response. On Saturday 15 March 2003 11:41 am, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 21:10, Raj Mathur wrote: From my perspective Use the situation to the advantage of FLOSS. Reality check is important. Lets not loose sight of what is achievable. 'loose' means

Re: [ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear tarun, thank you for taking the initiative of posting the FM's speech-to-text the mailing list for clarifications. thank you also for volunteering to draft a letter to the FM proposing an unbundling mechanism which takes care of the excise component. unfortunately, it saddens me to note

Re: [ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear raj, at last the oracle has spoken, if you excuse the borrowed phrase from the matrix, and the IT-industry pun. thanks raj, for your response, and for your epigrammatic statements. i fully agree with you that the issue of quality, FLOSS, FBS, choice, and the implicit innovations,

Re: [ilugd]: Reg: ILUG-D meeting : IMP

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 15 March 2003 11:52 am, you wrote: Hi, Well is there is a ILUG-D meeting this sunday . If yes then where and when .Pls reply ASAP Bye Tushar shah OYE! yes, it is the third week of sunday! what happened to the meeting. raj was saying he was gonna post some agenda venue and

Re: [ilugd]: The ILUGD Logo

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 15 March 2003 09:25 am, you wrote: the debate of 'cute' versus/also communicating 'power' is as old as the apple macintosh and ibm's charlie chaplin in the computer industry. the penguin is just another one of those weird abberations in the industry's thirst for 'cute'. i wonder

Re: [ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
Dear sanjeev, thank you at last for bringing out your stand on the issue, in response to raj's email. you make one helluva devil's advocate [Raj] Given that we live in an imperfect world, LinuxLingam's proposal to introduce (re-introduce?) a tax on bundled or COTS software seems eminently

[ilugd]: excise wealth

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
to get taxes removed or tax rebates or deductions, people do not usually ask for taxes to be applied. and along comes this fool called linuxlingam who is loudly asking and pleading for taxation, in today's day and age. so had to explain the total extent of my madness to him. [grin] :-) LL

[ilugd]: tv tuner card player

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
looks like MoviX also plays tv using a tv tuner card. check it out. MoviX 0.8.0pre2 http://freshmeat.net/releases/116186/ MoviX is a small Linux distro that transforms your PC in a powerful multimedia box. After booting your PC with MoviX, a user-friendly console menu will allow

Re: [LIG] [ilugd][draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-15 Thread LinuxLingam
dear tarun, thank you for your growing interest and involved thinking into the discussion. you mention: Lets pick and choose the 10 highest priority issues that concern the government policy wrt Software/IT, find creative solutions for each one of them after considering viable alternatives.

[ilugd]: FBS NFBS -- new alternative terms

2003-03-14 Thread LinuxLingam
have just coined a new acronym you'll see me use consistently henceforth. Freedom-Based Software = F.B.S. Non-Freedom-Based Software = N.F.B.S. hope you guys adopt these terms rapidly in your mailings and your daily speech communication. to know more about what is freedom-based software,

[ilugd]: why excise?

2003-03-14 Thread LinuxLingam
rms has asked for a clarification, here it is: excise duty is not charged in india for software. however, branded computers have to pay an excise tax. some MNC brands objected to the fact, that excise is charged on the cost of the 'whole box' when the 'whole box' contains a bundled OEM

[ilugd]: Germany mulls a copyright levy+tax for PCs

2003-03-14 Thread LinuxLingam
looks like the ilug-delhi demons and linux-india members aren't the only ones thinking of levying taxes. but this story in germany has an interesting twist: writers, musicians, composers, the creative people whose work the publishers, want computers taxed. and th is time, they don't want the

[ilugd]: some clarifications sought on excise

2003-03-14 Thread LinuxLingam
hi all, a colleague raised an important issue. excise is levied on products manufactured in india. customs is levied on products not manufactured, and hence imported into india. thus, the colleague says, software developed in india and sold in india may get an excise tax levied on it. and

Re: [ilugd]: A Plan for the ILUGD tees.

2003-03-13 Thread LinuxLingam
great stuff vivek. two small suggestions: 1) no need to write www.linux-delhi.org, write just linux-delhi.org. with a shorter sentence, you can use a slightly larger typesize to make it more visible from a distance. 2) don't use the blue color for two reasons: use the deep ochre/yellow color

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-12 Thread LinuxLingam
dear sanjeev, thanks again, for your insights and responses. so your responses confirm what i had been thinking: taxation in absolute terms is supposed to be on the principals you mentioned, but the overall reality forces of democracy, uruguay, gatt, WTO, bring in a 'reality-distortion field'

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-12 Thread LinuxLingam
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 06:58 am, you wrote: LinuxLingam wrote: why is software not yet taxed for excise? Sorry, my last reply talked about *customs* on Software. Software is not taxed for excise because of a very simple reason. Software is a service, not a product. Only products

Re: [ilugd]: What about TV Tuner

2003-03-12 Thread LinuxLingam
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 10:44 pm, you wrote: PS: I haven't checked out anything under linux for some time, if there is any good sw under linux, some1 pls tell me. i have often bumped into quite an increasing number of software for tv tuners, video playback, video recording, under

Re: [ilugd]: Queries reg GNU/Linux

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
On Monday 10 March 2003 12:03 pm, you wrote: Well, you should go on to Babbage and Lovelace Ada ... well, the infinite regress into the back will still re-emphasize supreet's point. knowledge in its smallest entity is never born in isolation. i strongly support the regime of patenting

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister - a different point of view

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi suresh, thanks for your response. On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:36 pm, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] I agree completely. This original open letter is such a harebrained idea for god's sake. why! thank you! harebrained

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thanks, supreet, for your response On Monday 10 March 2003 06:11 am, you wrote: It may not please many, but I could not agree more to what tarun has written. i doubt the excise will please many either. but the idea is not 'for someone's pleasure' it is for all the causes mentioned in the

Re: [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi tarun. thanks for your response again, to the open letter. Right on the point. 1) Stick to taxation on OEM bundled software alone and not on all FLOSS + COTS software. why not all software? much simpler to implement. soon people will start bundling software in bundles, much like

Re: [ilugd]: keep excise duty on OEM s/ware

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi supreet thanks for your response. On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:03 am, you wrote: Using open source/ Free Software is a explicit choice. Taxing buying of software is not going to help anybody. but using bundled software is not an explicit choice. it is zabardasti. how do you counter that?

[ilugd]: Re:]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
tarun dua wants to know how taxing both COTS and FLOSS help FLOSS. simple. 1) by taxing FLOSS what they call piracy will suddenly become understood as a 'tax evasion' scheme, and hopefully the govt and the cliched 'vested interested' will crack down heavily on what they call 'piracy.' 2)

Re: [ilugd]: Multiboot system

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:18 pm, you wrote: MALKIAT BENIPAL wrote: Please help me in installing a trouble free multiboot system. stop using *.doc and you've got rid of 95% of the trouble already! and whatever you do, please do not upload attachments to ilug-d. the 'd' in ilug-d also stands

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi sanjeev/ghane/gupta. thanks for your response. (what's your name, btw?). your response is quite insightful and made me learn and look from a new angle. On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:15 am, you wrote: Excise, Duties, and other taxation should be an instrument of fiscal policy, and should not

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi arjun i'd recommend yu try out Mandrake instead of RedHat. [heavy snip] and click the following to see how my mandrake 9.0 desktop looks. i'm using gnome 2.0 as of now. http://exain.net/vike/shots/?id=8 as for the support, atleast i'm there ;) vivek, this is commendable and highly

[ilugd]: Re:: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thanks raj, for your response. One of the biggest arguments against LinuxLingam's proposal appears to be that any tax collected from non-FLOSS sales will not be utilised properly. OK, let it not be utilised properly. Let it go into the general tax pool [snip]Whatever. The proposal

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister - a different point of view

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thank you, bnv raman, for your excellent response. my inputs follow: On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:36 pm, you wrote: - Original Message - From: BNV Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SNIP] As all software companies enjoy the **limited** benefits provided by the government in the form of

[ilugd]: Re:: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
] Even if Linuxlingam decides to fork it. The govt. departments who merely follow the written word in toto without applying an iota of intelligence more to fulfill the rules than for a purpose will use the same project from the GOI-FLOSS thus working to curtail freedom not increase

[ilugd]: Re: [LIG] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
Isn't that self-evident? If you have (say) an 8% excise on bundled software, then the person who downloads Linux and OpenOffice and bundles them into a computer doesn't pay any excise. After all, the tax/excise would be on the price of the software, and if the price is 0, so is the

[ilugd]: unbundling OEMbundles

2003-03-09 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 08 March 2003 11:32 am, you wrote: I've been trying to find if there is a law preventing forcing buyers to buy bundled items (as Window$ with a PC). I guess, there is one thats why all the whitegoods/FMCG bundled offers state that the item is also available without

Re: [ilugd]: where can I get a Linux logo T-shirt (in India please)?

2003-03-09 Thread LinuxLingam
checked out the humorix site, found this one rather interesting line: My computer, my documents, my briefcase, my ASS! :-) the bitstream vera sans not found on the site you mentioned. by the way, is garamond free? where/how did you find it? btw, i feel the tee-shirt should have a distinctive

Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-08 Thread LinuxLingam
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:43 pm, you wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 03:52 pm, LinuxLingam wrote: 14) finally, as a statement of leadership and values, india must adopt freedom-based software that is being proposed to the UNICEF to be declared as a world-culture heritage. Cite? okay

Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-08 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 08 March 2003 02:19 am, you wrote: Just one question: Shouldn't we be talking/targeting about 'proprietorial' software, instead of 'commercial' software? read responses to emails from tarun dua and tripta, on ilug-d. in brief: all commercial software, sold for a

Re: [ilugd]: Queries reg GNU/Linux

2003-03-08 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 08 March 2003 10:50 am, you wrote: Hi folks, What is meant by the terminology in subject ? pl. guide Malkiat linux is the name of the kernel, one central piece of software in an operating system. the operating system itself could contain hundreds of utilities, and other types

Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-08 Thread LinuxLingam
By the way, anybody noticed more than linux-delhi or whoever, it is really microsoft and all the non-free software companies that must push the indian government to tax sale of software in india. because suddenly, the government will see a nice source of huge inflow of cash, and therefore, a

[ilugd]: richard stallman on excise

2003-03-07 Thread LinuxLingam
hi all, a few days ago had posted a suggestion on why the government should tax commerical non-free software and further fund free software initiatives in india. posted it to linux-india and linux-delhi. controversial? richard stallman made some interesting observations. check it out here:

[ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-07 Thread LinuxLingam
[first draft: please submit your suggestions, changes. once a final draft is ready, will post it so those interested may sign or contribute their name to it. will then forward this to the indian finance minister and others in the government.] [cross-posted, and further cross-post, especially

Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-07 Thread LinuxLingam
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:21 pm, you wrote: An Opinion :- first of all, an excellent response from tarun dua on the draft. looking forward to more intense discussions on this topic by others in linux-delhi. eager to see to what this churning leads. short and quick responses to tarun's

[ilugd]: yipee: bootCD plays video+films+music called Movix2

2003-03-06 Thread LinuxLingam
rejoice! i have just discovered movix2. http://movix.sf.net/ it comes in three flavours, but basically, you just pop the cd into the pc, boot the machine, and you have a machine that can then play your collection of DVDs(!), VCDs, mpegs et al on your hard disks, or off networks, listen to

[ilugd]: keep excise duty on OEM s/ware

2003-03-04 Thread LinuxLingam
hi, the indian finance minister has proposed in the annual budget speech last week of february 2003, to exempt the cost of OEM software, bundled in the with the hardware, for branded PCs sold in india. thus, branded PCs selling bundled software on an OEM license, will only have to pay excise

Re: [ilugd]: whither linux-delhi?

2003-02-28 Thread LinuxLingam
Lingam, do i hear you volunteering to manage FLOSS projects taken on by people under the aegis of linux-delhi ? only those that are my personal itches, obviously. and others can scratch their respective itches with their code and management ;-) LL

Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread LinuxLingam
On Thursday 27 February 2003 01:47 pm, you wrote: MY GOD, TO MUCH OF POLITICS AND NO REAL STUFF hi sudhir, just one line from your email, and you forwarded the entire emails of raj and sudhir. that's tooo much as well. please be a little more careful in the future :-)

[ilugd]: free s/w as world culture heritage through UNESCO mooted

2003-02-26 Thread LinuxLingam
this is just plain awesome! Classification of Free Software as an intangible world cultural heritage http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind/ :-) LL To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header.

[ilugd]: whither linux-delhi?

2003-02-26 Thread LinuxLingam
To serve humanity with software, software should be free, because software belongs to human knowledge. Proprietary software does not belong to human knowledge. (Richard M. Stallman, GNU project founder and Free Software Foundation president). however, sudhir does have the freedom to sell

[ilugd]: can gnuLinux break into winXP password flaw?

2003-02-20 Thread LinuxLingam
have been reading about a reported flaw in winxp password feature. basically, according to reports, boot from a win2k cd, enter the recovery console, and voila! the whole hard disk of winxp, including user accounts and user data is naked and wide-open, like adameve without the gravity-defying

Re: [ilugd]: can gnuLinux break into winXP password flaw?

2003-02-20 Thread LinuxLingam
LL so the question: can a similar access be granted if i chose to LL boot up from a knoppix or a gnulinux recovery disk, such as LL from redhat or other distros? LL anybody tried this? this would be quite interesting. and i do LL need to know this urgently. your

Re: [ilugd]: can gnuLinux break into winXP password flaw?

2003-02-20 Thread LinuxLingam
On Thursday 20 February 2003 11:29 pm, you wrote: Well, I have tried a knoppix CD on my own machine and have full read access to my XP partition without a problem at all. Great recovery tools this knoppix eh ;) Cheers...Kishore and i suppose, should you right-click the xp partition, you

Re: [ilugd]: can gnuLinux break into winXP password flaw?

2003-02-20 Thread LinuxLingam
Erhm, sorry for raining on your parade, but you can do exactly the same thing on your Linux partition too. Boot with Knoppix, open a root shell and access all your Linux data. yes, i know that. have done so with knoppix and grinned at the naked level of access. but, you see, raj, gnulinux

Re: [ilugd]: gnulinux meet for newbies as well?

2003-02-13 Thread LinuxLingam
On Thursday 13 February 2003 10:43 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, LinuxLingam wrote: have been thinking the gnulinux meets must have one presentation targetted specifically towards gnulinux newbies as well. alternatively, we could also have the first sunday of every month targetted

Re: [ilugd]: linux on the desktop +GnuLinuxNewbie

2003-02-13 Thread LinuxLingam
vivek, your rant on gnulinux and the rigor mortis of the pc user in india rings! so may i suggest you hold the talk+presentation on gnuLinux for newbies. just voice the same sentiments and share the possibilities. you sound like a successful advocate since you've even managed to convince your

Re: [ilugd]: gnulinux meet for newbies as well?

2003-02-13 Thread LinuxLingam
On Friday 14 February 2003 08:47 am, you wrote: great! I am looking forward towards it. -sandeep nanajkar okay, so let's draw up the plan for the first meet: the first section, on what is gnulinux and knoppix demo, we could use the kishorebhargava+rajmathur standard presentation. could either

[ilugd]: red hat dead ant

2003-01-29 Thread LinuxLingam
question: what does a red hat exec do when he sees a one year old redhat linux cd? answer: he stomps all over it, then happily sings (in the tune of pink panther) dead ant, dead ant, dead ant dead ant dead ant, dead ant. er.. or is that red hat, red hat, red hat red hat red hat, red hat

[ilugd]: lufthansa pilots onboard wireless internet access

2003-01-15 Thread LinuxLingam
http://www.itworld.com/Net/2629/030115lufthansawlan/ bitte! at those kind of access speeds, i could download a linux distro or two en route LL To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header.

Re: [ilugd]: SCO threatens IP claims on Linux?!!

2003-01-14 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 12:49 pm, you wrote: They wish! No point in making demands that you have no hope of ever getting fulfilled. Remember what happens when you cut off a frog's leg in Biology class in school and then send an electrical current through it? It twitches. SCO's

Re: [ilugd]: problem installing redhat

2003-01-13 Thread LinuxLingam
if you guys have time, drop in at the linux workshop at hamdard university, for a hands-on demo, hopefully. for total linux newbies, i often recommend getting hold of a decent refernce book, a linux bible or something, so 90% of your questions are answered without having to even log on to the

[ilugd]: 1,118

2003-01-13 Thread LinuxLingam
1,118 members at linux-delhi as of today, from 138 citiies (though a few of the city names are typos or incorrect). with some margins for error, and given that our database got corrupted circa nov 2001, i suppose we can safely assume we've crossed the 1,000 mark. here's wishing we can cross a

[ilugd]: 19January2k3

2003-01-06 Thread LinuxLingam
dear all, the third sunday of the first month of the new year is hurtling towards us like a searing meteorite burning fiercely in the stratosphere. the rosy winter of the indian capital will wake up with a bang to its sudden impact, circa 19 january, 2003. astronomers have pointed out a

Re: [ilugd]: Economic Times: Govt opens gates wide by giving top billing to Linux

2002-12-25 Thread LinuxLingam
there's a followup article to the ET article of 25 dec, in today's ET as well. have been scanning the papers every day for a month, and what astonishes me is that not a single day goes by without a mention of linux or gnu in some way in the news. that's heartening :-) LL

Re: [ilugd]: [Fwd: the open cd project]

2002-12-23 Thread LinuxLingam
ja! i need a copy of the cd too. made about a dozen copies and gave it away, eventually i think i gave away the first cd i had as well, and am left with zilch. raj also mentioned another cd, similar to opencd, for win doze. would like a copy of one each. raj, if you have, will come and pick it

[ilugd]: like dreamweaver,golive,frontpage

2002-12-21 Thread LinuxLingam
been searching on freshmeat, but haven't found any gui-based application yet, that is a web-design and authoring software for gnulinux. strange. need to find something, for end-user desktops, that is akin to dreamweaver, golive, or frontpage, but for the gnulinux platform. any suggestions.

Re: [ilugd]: Unrelated but a cad software for linux

2002-12-21 Thread LinuxLingam
On Saturday 14 December 2002 10:53 pm, you wrote: Hi In my uncles office, a nice letter came from some lawer saing unautorised use of autocad. now clearle my uncle cannot buy authorised copies of autocad. The lisencing charges of 5 would exceed his annual profits. you know small time

[ilugd]: [cross-posted] EULA redefined

2002-12-20 Thread LinuxLingam
dear all, early this cold, new delhi morning, an idea struck me, and wish to share with all. The Gnu/Linux EULA : - End User Liberation Agreement. By Clicking on the 'I Am Liberated' button, you electronically agee that you understand that Gnu/Linux offers you Liberation: You are Liberated

Re: [ilugd]: Linux India Initiative

2002-12-19 Thread LinuxLingam
i fully endorse raj's view that the magazine 9linuxforyou9, be published under an 'open' license, of which fdl is the most preferred 9gnu.org9, else the publishers could try out other licenses at www.creativecommons.org which are quite similar to fdl. publishing this way is lucrative, i know.

Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux novice

2002-12-19 Thread LinuxLingam
yoo hoo! linux newbie! are you still shaking in your knees and quivering in fear for having dared ask the otherwise helpful 'linux-delhi' GUIs a question? congratulations all for showing understanding. anymore oliver twists out there, please come forward, we have more surprises for you ! LL

Re: [ilugd]: Linux India Initiative - what else?

2002-12-18 Thread LinuxLingam
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 12:37 pm, you wrote: Yes the government does have some proposed lines of action, like Setting up of Resource Centres Setting up of pilot sites for various application sectors / Support to tools/application development Policy issues

[ilugd]: leo's question: computer savvy?

2002-12-17 Thread LinuxLingam
leo fernandes, the recursive, kernel-centric, assembly-hacking thinker when it comes to philosophy, asks What does it mean when you call someone 'computer savvy'? for, thus spake leo: i could point out professors in academia who would be totally lost with a win doze machine, even though they

[ilugd]: creativecommons.org licenses

2002-12-17 Thread LinuxLingam
www.creativecommons.org this is an important site for all who create content: writers, thinkers, artists, authors, musicians, film-directors, *and* its consumers. i hope india gravitates towards this. here are a new set of licenses, inspired by gnu and gpl. LL

Re: [ilugd]: meeting

2002-12-16 Thread LinuxLingam
On Monday 16 December 2002 10:41 am, you wrote: The next meet in the New years will feature the fontdudes and linux lingam. (hopefully!!) i suppose the fontdudes could give a presentation on their work and its status. and i eagerly hope prof. shukla will give a primer and a talk on teX.

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