Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-02 Thread Alex Clark
On 8/1/10 10:29 PM, in article 4c562da3.8030...@noaa.gov, Christopher Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: Alex Clark wrote: On 8/1/10 3:04 PM, in article 4c55c525.9090...@noaa.gov, Christopher Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: Š Is packaging the only issues this fork is for? Yes.

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/8/1 Jerome Leclanche adys...@gmail.com: Although the PIL and Image* packages themselves do not respect python standards (should be from imaging import .., or something alike). If you had been paying attention, you'd noticed that python standards change all the time, depend on what the

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/7/31 Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com: I have been wanting to tackle this for sometime, and finally got around to it tonight. I've created a friendly fork of PIL called Pillow: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/1.0 Some background: I've been doing Plone development for the

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Clark
On 8/1/10 6:51 AM, in article aanlktik-mkenwtpsmfpcymd6enypb8un+qwqzj=ug...@mail.gmail.com, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote: 2010/8/1 Jerome Leclanche adys...@gmail.com: Although the PIL and Image* packages themselves do not respect python standards (should be from imaging

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Clark
On 8/1/10 7:04 AM, in article aanlktikcnvggtjnwtiag0xnmkwdnu+qw2prnoetsv...@mail.gmail.com, Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com wrote: 2010/7/31 Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com: I have been wanting to tackle this for sometime, and finally got around to it tonight. I've created

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Christopher Barker
Alex Clark wrote: OK, I'm trying to figure this out. As I understand it, the result of the incompatibility is that: import Image Fails in Zope 2 if PIL is installed because Zope 2 (OFS) has it's own Image module. For quite some time, PIL has been delivered as both a package and with a pth

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
2010/8/1 Christopher Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov: I'd be a bit happier if import Image raised a deprecation warning, but I'm not sure how you'd do that. (I actually did help do that for the GDAL package, but that was set up differently - they actually had all their stuff dumped directly into

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-08-01 Thread Alex Clark
On 8/1/10 3:04 PM, in article 4c55c525.9090...@noaa.gov, Christopher Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: Š Is packaging the only issues this fork is for? Yes. In Plone-land we rely a great deal on packages on PyPI. Buildout is a tool (which my 'Plone site admin' book covers in great

[Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-07-31 Thread Alex Clark
Hi all, I have been wanting to tackle this for sometime, and finally got around to it tonight. I've created a friendly fork of PIL called Pillow: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/1.0 Some background: I've been doing Plone development for the past 5 years or so, and PIL has always been an

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-07-31 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
I have been wanting to tackle this for sometime, and finally got around to it tonight. I've created a friendly fork of PIL called Pillow: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/1.0 Some background: I've been doing Plone development for the past 5 years or so, and PIL has always been an issue. I

Re: [Image-SIG] Pillow, the friendly PIL fork

2010-07-31 Thread Jerome Leclanche
[To the whole list this time, again, for good. Really sorry for the spam Daniel.] Semi-related brain dump. It's indeed unclear which issues Pillow is trying to solve, but PIL has indeed an extremely high amount of them. First of all, one that bugged me for ever now, is the extremely poor