RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Peter Ring
Quite often these days, CVS is not something that you choose -- you get chosen by CVS, much as you get chosen by Microsoft operating systems and development tools, simply because it's ubiquitous. Like it or not, there's not much respect for original design goals in the ways of the world. I

Re: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread David H. Thornley
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: [ On Sunday, April 1, 2001 at 08:26:32 (-0800), Gianni Mariani wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? Your discussion below exposes a perspective which is about as far off from my own as you can get. I will go as far to say that your

Re: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Mike Pumford
Remember that cvswrappers doesn't work if you connect to the repository using a remote protocol (e.g. pserver); you must put a copy of the 'cvswrappers' file named '.cvswrappers' into each users home directory. Actually it does now. It changed somewhere around 1.10. Mike

cvs pserver and knowing who did what

2001-04-02 Thread Chris Niekel
Hi, At work I've installed cvs and we now have a cvs repository which all developers access through the pserver. All accounts are mapped to the same userid (so the CVSROOT/passwd file is user:passwd:cvsaccount for every user). When I use the loginfo method to automatically send mail about the

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The goal of CVS is to to *exactly* what it does and has always done That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. If this were really true, then the developers of CVS would have packed up and gone home long ago. CVS continues to evolve, but not in the

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Sunday, April 1, 2001 at 14:00:20 (-0700), David Glick wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? BTW, I *do* get it; I just don't agree with you. I've spent most of 20+ years listening to people just like you explain why something shouldn't/couldn't be done, and then

Re: restoring an old repository

2001-04-02 Thread Larry Jones
=?euc-kr?B?sO0gv7XIrQ==?= writes: After OS installation job, I tryed to re-load the previous data. But I can't. I don't know what's matter. What shall I do in this case ? Tell us exactly what you did and exactly what error messages you got. How do you expect people to help without any

Patches: cvs --allow-root=/blah server

2001-04-02 Thread Jan Grant
I'm a bit stumped as to where patches for this should go. We're looking at running CVS here using :ext:-mode access and ssh, and using sshd's command="cvs --allow-root=/blah server" option to limit people to only runing CVS. Currently the CVS server I have access to (1.11-derived)

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Paul Sander
Unfortunately, there are enough members of the CVS community who just don't seem to understand the necessity of many proposed features, and who are influential enough to defer or even actively discourage their introduction. Examples of such needed features include full support of non-ASCII file

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Gianni Mariani
Peter, you say: "Remember that cvswrappers doesn't work if you connect to the repository using a remote protocol (e.g. pserver); you must put a copy of the 'cvswrappers' file named '.cvswrappers' into each users home directory." I have evidence to the contrary. I just tested it using :pserver:

Re: cvs pserver and knowing who did what

2001-04-02 Thread Rob Helmer
Hello, Do the developers also have UNIX accounts? Then don't use the CVSROOT/passwd file, I don't think there's any really good reason to use it. It's easier to set up a phony shell that doesn't allow logins and use the UNIX user account system if you don't want people logging into the box.

Re: How to specify port with `cvs pserver'?

2001-04-02 Thread Rob Helmer
Hello, Well, if I was using CVS from remote and SSH was installed on the server side, and I had a UNIX account on the server side, I would set these environment variables : CVS_RSH=ssh CVSROOT=:ext:user@host:/path/to/repository Then do "cvs command". If I wanted to use pserver for some

Re: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Larry Jones
David H. Thornley writes: Nope; CVS adheres to design principles that are at least somewhat compatible with our requirements. The fact that people are using CVS for the management of binary files implies that somebody can do it and be successful. Nor do I understand why this is inherently

CVS pserver

2001-04-02 Thread Charles
I'm new to this and am attempting to set up a pserver on a linux box which will service multiple windows machines running wincvs. I have thus far installed cvs and created a repository. I'm not sure how to actually get pserver listening on the port I'm using. Any help on what command line

Re: cvs pserver and knowing who did what

2001-04-02 Thread Larry Jones
Chris Niekel writes: When I use the loginfo method to automatically send mail about the commits, the "Author" is always set to 'cvsaccount'. Is there any way to make this the 'user' entry? I'm just using an example log.pl script, but I printed the environment settings, and that also

Re: Patches: cvs --allow-root=/blah server

2001-04-02 Thread Larry Jones
Jan Grant writes: I'm a bit stumped as to where patches for this should go. We're looking at running CVS here using :ext:-mode access and ssh, and using sshd's command="cvs --allow-root=/blah server" option to limit people to only runing CVS. Since sshd ends up running as the

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Paul Sander
Greg's statement below is flatly untrue. We've discussed this very topic at length in this forum many times in the past. His argument is based on the fact that the RCS "merge" tool cannot support merges of arbitrary file formats. It doesn't even support merges of arbitrary ASCII formats. And

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread David Glick
I'd argue that I do get it; you just don't get that I get it. Your statement "CVS literally cannot support binary files..." should be changed to "CVS does not currently support binary files in a way that is consistent with the philosophy of concurrent editing". If we can agree with the above

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, April 2, 2001 at 01:13:35 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? If this were really true, then the developers of CVS would have packed up and gone home long ago. CVS continues to evolve, but not in the directions that some of us would

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, April 2, 2001 at 01:02:26 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? Unfortunately, there are enough members of the CVS community who just don't seem to understand the necessity of many proposed features, and who are influential enough to

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, April 2, 2001 at 08:51:31 (+0200), Peter Ring wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? Quite often these days, CVS is not something that you choose -- you get chosen by CVS, much as you get chosen by Microsoft operating systems and development tools, simply

Re: Can Wincvs use rsh (:server:) connection method?

2001-04-02 Thread Steve Rabin
I hear you, but then why does Wincvs give that error? ("Set the password authentication first in the preferences !") Oh, and how can I make it stop giving this error? Thanks and Best Regards Steve At 07:13 AM 3/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: Steve, The point is that there is no password using

Re: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, April 2, 2001 at 09:56:28 (-0500), David H. Thornley wrote: ] Subject: Re: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? Philosophically, this seems to be a Platonist approach to software tools, and you're in a community of Aristotelians. No, you Aristotelians are invading a community

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, April 2, 2001 at 11:22:32 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ? Greg's statement below is flatly untrue. We've discussed this very topic at length in this forum many times in the past. His argument is based on the fact that the RCS

Triggers links to defect tracking systems

2001-04-02 Thread ericho
Hi, Is there any facility in CVS to add hooks for customized actions? For instance, requiring a Bug Number when you check in a file, verifying that bugnum against your defect tracking system, etc. If not are there any projects underway to address this? Thanks

RE: cvswrappers - any better suggestions ?

2001-04-02 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inserting a registrar into CVS to allow shops and users to specify the particular tool required to perform a merge is not a fundamental change to the CVS design, but it is a small generalization. Yes, but one that would require a rather drastic