Re: Does anyone allow unlimited or extremely large quotas?

2010-11-23 Thread Sébastien Michel
tarball. Just sending a mail in LMTP and opening the mailbox several times (SELECT/CLOSE only) A binary diff indicated that Generation Number is incremented but nothing else. Oh yeah - expunge on close. God, that's awful. 2.4.x will fix that. Switching filehandles to read-only won't

Re: Does anyone allow unlimited or extremely large quotas?

2010-11-23 Thread Sébastien Michel
Thanks a lot for the tip, I didn't know this tool. Sébastien 2010/11/22 Gabor Gombas gomb...@digikabel.hu On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:03:15AM +0100, Sébastien Michel wrote: Since strace doesn't help to see what mmap reads on SELECT, so I made a test on NFS server. On Linux you should

Re: Does anyone allow unlimited or extremely large quotas?

2010-11-23 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Sébastien Michel wrote: I expect that cyrus.index and cyrus.cache don't change if the client does nothing in the IMAP session, even after a SELECT. The same test in an empty mailbox has the same result, Generation Number is incremented too. Cyrus

Re: Does anyone allow unlimited or extremely large quotas?

2010-11-23 Thread Sébastien Michel
Thanks a lot, but I know IMAP :-) I can't do anything on the client side. For mailboxes that don't change and don't have any \Deleted flag I would like to change on the server side any CLOSE by UNSELECT So upgrade to 2.4.x, it's fixed there. It was a massive amount of work, and

Cyrus Upgradation

2010-11-23 Thread sachin Murudkar
Hi I need to upgrade my cyrus from 2.3 to the newer version 2.4 without disturbing my entire setup so i was trying to get 2.4 rpm but I couldn't find cyrus rpm for 2.4 version. where I can directly upgrade Cyrus through yum. So can any one help me to get Cyrus-2.4 rpm. Thanks / Regards

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ron Vachiyer
From how I understand the RFC, if no IMAP IDLE capability is advertised, the client should not attempt to use it and should close the TCP socket after every operation. Backberry connections to courier-imap and dovecot will not maintain a TCP session, they seem to when Cyrus is the IMAP

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick Boutilier
On 11/23/2010 08:52 AM, Ron Vachiyer wrote: From how I understand the RFC, if no IMAP IDLE capability is advertised, the client should not attempt to use it and should close the TCP socket after every operation. Backberry connections to courier-imap and dovecot will not maintain a TCP session,

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ron Vachiyer
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:57:52 -0400 From: bouti...@ednet.ns.ca To: info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: disable IMAP IDLE On 11/23/2010 08:52 AM, Ron Vachiyer wrote: From how I understand the RFC, if no IMAP IDLE capability is advertised, the client should not attempt to use it

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:15 -0500 Ron Vachiyer prout...@hotmail.com wrote: No it isn't, I had already checked and strangely it is notwhich is really surprising me that the sessions remain; A client can keep a session open by sending NOOP every 25 minutes. If you won't allow

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 22 November 2010 18:40:37 -0500 Ron Vachiyer prout...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I thought it was possible in Cyrus to disable the IDLE functionality, either with imapidlepoll: 0 in imapd.conf, or by commenting idled in cyrus.conf. However, having both disabled, clients still

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ron Vachiyer
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:44:34 + From: i...@sussex.ac.uk To: prout...@hotmail.com; info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: disable IMAP IDLE --On 22 November 2010 18:40:37 -0500 Ron Vachiyer prout...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I thought it was possible in Cyrus

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Chris Mattingly
The RFC for the IDLE says: This document specifies the syntax of an IDLE command, which will allow a client to tell the server that it's ready to accept such real-time updates. This doesn't say anything about keeping connections open, it only talks about the near-instant new email

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 23 November 2010 10:01:58 -0500 Ron Vachiyer prout...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought sessions remained open for efficiency, regardless of IDLE, until closed by the client or 30 minutes have elapsed. IDLE just lets the server notify the client if new email arrives, doesn't it? Even

rsync and cyrusimap.2.4.x

2010-11-23 Thread Martin Pracht
Hello, with 2.3.X we were happy by having a standby-system for our mail server, keeping the data up to date by a periodical rsync from the working system. We did an upgrade to 2.4.X on the standby-system. With 2.4.X reconstruct seems to change the modification-time of all mail-files, on next

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 23 November 2010 10:19:28 -0500 Chris Mattingly ch...@camattin.com wrote: The RFC for the IDLE says: This document specifies the syntax of an IDLE command, which will allow a client to tell the server that it's ready to accept such real-time updates. This doesn't say anything

Re: cyr_expire does not delete files on disk with expunge_mode:delayed?

2010-11-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Bron Gondwana wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:03:05PM -0600, Kenneth Marshall wrote: We hit the same issue. You will need to run cyr_expire twice to have items be removed correctly. Once as you are currently doing and then a second time ignoring the mailbox

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Dan White
On 23/11/10 10:01 -0500, Ron Vachiyer wrote: Hello, I won't argue since clearly I am in the minority ;) Using courier-imap on our Plesk servers, TCP/143 is closed after every new mail verification. A dovecot server I checked does the same. Cyrus seems to allow the session to be maintained, and

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Chris Mattingly
IDLE does require the session to stay open. But the server doesn't have to support IDLE for the client to keep the connection open. -Chris On 11/23/2010 11:20 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: --On 23 November 2010 10:19:28 -0500 Chris Mattingly ch...@camattin.com wrote: The RFC for the IDLE

Re: cyr_expire does not delete files on disk with expunge_mode:delayed?

2010-11-23 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 03:10:48PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Bron Gondwana wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:03:05PM -0600, Kenneth Marshall wrote: We hit the same issue. You will need to run cyr_expire twice to have items be removed correctly. Once as

Re: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:01:58AM -0500, Ron Vachiyer wrote: I believe there was an issue as well where POP clients using outlook would cause mailbox corruption when they popped a mailbox being maintained by a blackberry connected via IMAP. Not in 2.4.x there shouldn't be. The locking

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Mueller
I was asked by IT to not permit IDLE since the current server went down after 4-500 blackberries ate up all the (limited) capabilities of that machine. I'd really be surprised if that was a problem these days. We have machines that have 1 connections quite fine. Yes they're fairly loaded

RE: disable IMAP IDLE

2010-11-23 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Robert Mueller wrote: I was asked by IT to not permit IDLE since the current server went down after 4-500 blackberries ate up all the (limited) capabilities of that machine. I'd really be surprised if that was a problem these days. We have machines that have 1