So you say you will create a file for every function you want to support
autoloading?
As I already asked, tell us about realworld use case, for example where this
could improve say big projects like Symfony or ZF.
There is no logic to add this functionality just because we can.
kindly,
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.comwrote:
If staying consistent with foreach is not wanted (or this is not
How calling a function can be consistent with foreach? Those are
different things. Calling a function should be consistent with all other
cases of
Am 31.08.2013 03:17, schrieb Bryan C. Geraghty:
First, I want to ask: Does anyone else think we should draw a distinction
between RNGs and CSPRNGs?
I ask this because the OpenSSL option here is the only CSPRNG; The others are
trivially breakable and should not be used for cryptographic
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
Hi internals!
Is there any particular reason why we only pass return_value_ptr to
internal functions if they have the ACC_RETURN_REFERENCE flag
On 31/08/13 14:13, Nikita Popov wrote:
Is there any particular reason why we only pass return_value_ptr to internal
functions if they have the ACC_RETURN_REFERENCE flag set?
Why can't we always provide the retval ptr, even for functions that don't
return by reference? This would allow
On 31 August 2013 03:21, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
This is very special use case to be hidden in library functions, I don't
think we need to have language syntax specially directed at that, at the
cost of making it overall more complex and hard to understand. I can see
what add
On 30 August 2013 08:23, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
The syntax it introduces looks as follows:
$db-query($query, ...$params);
Somebody was going to do this, and it's going to be me. Sorry. We were
doing so well.
I don't like the ellipsis. I could just about deal with it for
2013/8/31 Vartolomei Nicolae nvartolo...@gmail.com
So you say you will create a file for every function you want to support
autoloading?
I already _have_ create files for functions of a namespace... Closed
source.
As I already asked, tell us about realworld use case, for example where
Hi,
there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to
the question: Do we need that site? Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide
outdated info.
* Downloads are not using our 90 world-wide mirrors but a
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.dewrote:
Hi,
there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to
the question: Do we need that site? Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 13:22 -0700, Kris Craig wrote:
The downloads section of windows.php.net is regularly updated. It
currently hosts 5.3.3, released 10 days ago. The snaps and news are a bit
outdated, but I'd say the solution to that is to encourage more
participation, not shut it down
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.dewrote:
My idea would be to
* shut down most of windows.php.net
* Provide downloads via our mirrors. This might need work on a
nice downloads page, probably some configuration to make sure we
On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 22:38 +0200, Nikita Popov wrote:
The Windows site also hosts DLLs for PECL:
http://windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/ That should also be put in some
prominent location, because right now I don't think it's even linked from
anywhere. Instead the website has a notice that
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.dewrote:
Hi,
there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to
the question: Do we need that site? Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide
Curiously enough Pierre just said this in php.pecl.dev (Thu, 29 Aug 2013
19:59:01 +0200):
You can also get some here:
http://windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/ snaps or releases
which is about to be the place where pecl official binaries will be
always be available, with links from pecl.php.net.
PS. The beta for php.net has its problems as well. There is no
equivalent (yet?) for http://www.php.net/downloads.php
I switched back to the old site because of this.
http://www.php.net/downloads.php?beta=1 ?
maybe the link is missing to that page?
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Ferenc Kovacs in php.internals (Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:18:09 +0200):
PS. The beta for php.net has its problems as well. There is no
equivalent (yet?) for http://www.php.net/downloads.php
I switched back to the old site because of this.
http://www.php.net/downloads.php?beta=1 ?
maybe the link is
Big +1 from me, though as Stas pointed out, multiple unpacks in a single
call don't really work with PHP parameter typing, so I'd make that use an
error.
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Adam Harvey ahar...@php.net wrote:
On 30 August 2013 08:23, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
The
On Saturday, August 31, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
I already _have_ create files for functions of a namespace... Closed source.
Can we take a look at them as an example? Maybe we can give you some advice
how to refactor this code :)
Not everything can be found in the 5 most
The lack of logic is: Why is it actually missing?
Why humans don’t have one leg more, on head?
I really want to look at an example for this. Looks like you are the only
one who needs this.
Oh, is OOP that bad for you? Also constant autoloading looks so bad, I
want to see an example of
personally Ithink it would be nice if we could provide a way for
const/function autoloading.
So you will create files for constants? One file with a single line defining a
constant?
Did I understood something wrong?
kindly,
nvartolomei
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Python packages often place convenience functions (e.g., factory methods) in
__init__.py files. There's nothing wrong with that. It would be great to be
able to do something similar in PHP. Sure beats creating classes called Util.
Thanks,
Michael
On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Vartolomei Nicolae
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Vartolomei Nicolae
nvartolo...@gmail.com wrote:
personally Ithink it would be nice if we could provide a way for
const/function autoloading.
So you will create files for constants? One file with a single line defining
a constant?
Did I understood something
All,
There has been a lot of discussion unto the merit of this feature. That's
fine.
What I'd really like to know before proposing this is what can be improved
in this RFC.
For example: someone (Stas) brought up that it was weird that all three
types (Class, Function, Constant) are served by a
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Vartolomei Nicolae
nvartolo...@gmail.comwrote:
personally Ithink it would be nice if we could provide a way for
const/function autoloading.
So you will create files for constants? One file with a single line
defining a constant?
Did I understood something
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.de wrote:
Hi,
there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to
the question: Do we need that site?
Yes. Totally and definitively yes.
Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jan Ehrhardt php...@ehrhardt.nl wrote:
Curiously enough Pierre just said this in php.pecl.dev (Thu, 29 Aug 2013
19:59:01 +0200):
You can also get some here:
http://windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/ snaps or releases
which is about to be the place where pecl
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
I could be convinced that we need a dedicated site/subdomain for our
windows users, but I think that it should be conform our existing standards:
- the production code can be changed through commits to the git repo,
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 01:50 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide
outdated info.
I take the blame for that. We have been too busy with (many) other
(also non windows specific) QA tasks. The
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
I could be convinced that we need a dedicated site/subdomain for our
windows users, but I think that it should be conform our existing
standards:
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.de wrote:
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 01:50 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide
outdated info.
I take the blame for that. We
hi Nikita!
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
Hi internals!
This RFC proposes to add a syntax for argument unpacking:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/argument_unpacking
Basically, this is the complement of the variadics RFC: It is not about
declaring
lol.
(sorry for top posting)
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 03:01 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.de wrote:
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 01:50 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
Why and for what?
Few data items:
* The news on w.p.n are
Guys,
Let be more constructive.
We are discussing to make PHP better, aren't we?
Regards,
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Yasuo Ohgaki
yohg...@ohgaki.net
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