RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, François Laupretre wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] 2. We have no easy way to actually release and deploy adhoc scripts, used by a given extension For 2., it is one of the thing I can imagine implementing in pickle. Or even better add it a s

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: But, if we consider the PHP code as an integral part of the extension, this should be avoided, as C and PHP code need to be kept in sync. Again, there is a multitude of solutions for this, all in the realm of packaging. It's not like

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Jan 7, 2015 5:02 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, François Laupretre wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] 2. We have no easy way to actually release and deploy adhoc scripts, used by a given extension For 2., it is one of the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Jan 7, 2015 5:15 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: But, if we consider the PHP code as an integral part of the extension, this should be avoided, as C and PHP code need to be kept in sync. Again, there is a multitude of

[PHP-DEV] Idea for PHP.net

2015-01-07 Thread Scott Arciszewski
Hello, Would it be possible for php.net to publish a cryptographically signed (e.g. openssl_sign() with a RSA private key kept offline) list in a pre-defined location (e.g. /stable_versions.txt) so that scripts can be written to read (and cache) the latest stable versions? I'm going to write a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] PHP 5.7

2015-01-07 Thread Pascal Martin, AFUP
On 07/01/2015 01:44, Andrea Faulds wrote: The voting widget and RFC can be found here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php57 Hi, We've discussed this RFC with other members of AFUP and while opinions have been expressed for both yes and no, it seems we are at about 2/3 of yes -- which means we

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Preserve Fractional Part in JSON encode

2015-01-07 Thread Juan Basso
I really like the new name and the consistence with the rest of php. If no one else has a complain about it I will update the RFC and open for voting, right? Juan Basso On Jan 5, 2015 7:31 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Juan Basso jrba...@gmail.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! There is currently no way to install an extension and a PHP library package at the same time. pecl can't install PHP libraries, and Why it needs to be at the same time? I don't see any use case where it would matter if you run one command or two commands to install it. In fact, if it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Pierre Joye
hi François, On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:14 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net wrote: De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] ... here, it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at runtime like any other script, except that nothing can be done with them, not even

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com wrote: composer can't install extensions. And even if it did, keeping the versions in sync is not easy at all. Only way to solve this properly is It seems to me you're reinventing packaging systems. I don't see why we

Re: [PHP-DEV] journald support for Linux systems that use systemd

2015-01-07 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 17:01 -0500, Mark Montague wrote: I'd like to start an RFC (see the draft proposal at the end of this message) for adding journald support to PHP on Linux systems that use systemd. This message is to measure reaction to the intended proposal prior to requesting

RE: [PHP-DEV] Idea for PHP.net

2015-01-07 Thread François Laupretre
De : Leigh [mailto:lei...@gmail.com] On 7 January 2015 at 12:52, Scott Arciszewski kobrasre...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible for php.net to publish a cryptographically signed (e.g. openssl_sign() with a RSA private key kept offline) list in a pre-defined location (e.g.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Idea for PHP.net

2015-01-07 Thread Leigh
On 7 January 2015 at 12:52, Scott Arciszewski kobrasre...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Would it be possible for php.net to publish a cryptographically signed (e.g. openssl_sign() with a RSA private key kept offline) list in a pre-defined location (e.g. /stable_versions.txt) so that scripts can be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Idea for PHP.net

2015-01-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! https://php.net/releases/active.php. This is used by the bug tracker in conjunction with pulling version information from qa.php.net, so it should be reliable. Excellent! This is a wonderful starting point :) Note also that while this API does not list it, every release now also has

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Extension Prepend Files

2015-01-07 Thread François Laupretre
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] ... here, it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at runtime like any other script, except that nothing can be done with them, not even disable them if not required (like using its own glue codes). I agree. Bundling scripts in

[PHP-DEV] journald support for Linux systems that use systemd

2015-01-07 Thread Mark Montague
I'd like to start an RFC (see the draft proposal at the end of this message) for adding journald support to PHP on Linux systems that use systemd. This message is to measure reaction to the intended proposal prior to requesting RFC karma. Proof of concept implementation against PHP master

Re: [PHP-DEV] Idea for PHP.net

2015-01-07 Thread Scott Arciszewski
That said, if you're OK trusting HTTPS and can do without the manual signing step, I'm not and cannot. After Diginotar and the Snowden revelations, I place zero trust in CAs. :) we have an unadvertised JSON backend that can provide the stable release information you'd need:

[PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Turn gc_collect_cycles into function pointer

2015-01-07 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
Hello everyone, After discussion I am putting the RFC on turning gc_collect_cycles into a function pointer to vote: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/gc_fn_pointer Votes will end on 2015-01-21 19:31 (in 14 days). The discussion feedback on PHP 7 extension API refactoring was incorporated in the RFC