Re: [PHP-DEV] Arrays being generated with length and no content on master

2015-03-07 Thread Xinchen Hui
Hey: On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Juan Basso jrba...@gmail.com wrote: I was testing CakePHP framework with PHP 7 and some tests were failing. Digging into the issue I found that using compact in a certain way can cause PHP to create an array with length but no content inside. I reported

Re: [PHP-DEV] Arrays being generated with length and no content on master

2015-03-07 Thread Juan Basso
Great, that was quick. Tested the change with CakePHP tests and it passes now. Thank you. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Xinchen Hui larue...@gmail.com wrote: Hey: On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Juan Basso jrba...@gmail.com wrote: I was testing CakePHP framework with PHP 7 and some tests

[PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread reeze
Hi internals, I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of count(). some people expect it return the memory size of the variable. The doc page's[1] user contributed notes indicate that too. What do you think? [1] http://php.net/sizeof [2]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

2015-03-07 Thread Rowan Collins
On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-uintersect-uassoc.php array array_uintersect_uassoc ( array $array1 , array $array2 [, array $... ], callable $value_compare_func , callable $key_compare_func ) this

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Sebastian B.-Hagensen
Hi, 2015-03-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net: I'm a big -1 on this, while I know it returns the memory size in a C perspective, I think it makes perfect sense to remain an alias, it would break lots of applications for a very tiny to nothing gain. I don't think the alias

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Lester Caine
On 07/03/15 17:35, Sebastian B.-Hagensen wrote: On the other side: Removal of sizeof is doable with a patch release for almost all projects and shouldn't really require more than 5 to 10 minutes (+ time to review the diff) for most projects. If taken in conjunction with tidying up the IEEE C

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

2015-03-07 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, 2015-03-07 8:28 GMT-03:00 Robert Stoll p...@tutteli.ch: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Schaaf [mailto:p...@bof.de] Gesendet: Samstag, 7. März 2015 08:22 An: Philip Sturgeon Cc: internals; Robert Stoll Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes Am

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

2015-03-07 Thread Rowan Collins
On 07/03/2015 01:30, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi Rowan, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com mailto:rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2015 22:05:05 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net mailto:yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote: Hi Rowan, On Fri,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi 2015-03-07 18:35 GMT+01:00 Sebastian B.-Hagensen sbj.ml.r...@gmail.com: Hi, I don't think the alias make sense and is really misleading and I've seen sizeof(abc); often enough (Don't get me wrong that's equally bad with count, but sizeof encourages that usage, imo). Having two functions

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Bostjan Skufca
On 7 March 2015 at 20:42, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote: Hi Well we could make count()/sizeof() work for strings, so that if: C:\ php -r echo sizeof('abc'); 3 although it would not really accomplish much imo., I think it is more of what background you come from that makes the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi 2015-03-07 16:51 GMT+01:00 reeze re...@php.net: Hi internals, I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of count(). some people expect it return the memory size of the variable. The doc page's[1] user contributed notes indicate that too. What do you think? 'm

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

2015-03-07 Thread Grégory Planchat
Le 07/03/2015 02:39, Yasuo Ohgaki a écrit : We may provide new names and new parameter order in new namespace. The difference is alias or namespace basically. I don't object to use namespace for it at all. In fact, I would love to have it even if there is issue like writing extremely difficult

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Make empty() a Variadic

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas Punt
Hello PHP Internals! I'd like to put the variadic empty() RFC to vote. RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/variadic_empty Voting will finish in 14 days time on March 21st. Thanks, Tom -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

2015-03-07 Thread Lazare Inepologlou
2015-03-07 8:22 GMT+01:00 Patrick Schaaf p...@bof.de: Am 06.03.2015 20:14 schrieb Philip Sturgeon pjsturg...@gmail.com: Right, this here RFC has been drastically improved. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/anonymous_classes Anyone got any doubts or troubles at this point? Can we / could we

AW: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

2015-03-07 Thread Robert Stoll
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Schaaf [mailto:p...@bof.de] Gesendet: Samstag, 7. März 2015 08:22 An: Philip Sturgeon Cc: internals; Robert Stoll Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes Am 06.03.2015 20:14 schrieb Philip Sturgeon pjsturg...@gmail.com: Right,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Gregory, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Grégory Planchat greg...@luni.fr wrote: Le 07/03/2015 02:39, Yasuo Ohgaki a écrit : We may provide new names and new parameter order in new namespace. The difference is alias or namespace basically. I don't object to use namespace for it at all.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Rowan, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-uintersect-uassoc.php array array_uintersect_uassoc ( array $array1 , array

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of count(). some people expect it return the memory size of the variable. Why? So, some people are wrong, why we need to mess with the language to accommodate them? I don't think it is a good idea. -- Stas Malyshev

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

2015-03-07 Thread Rowan Collins
On 7 March 2015 22:47:48 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote: Hi Rowan, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

2015-03-07 Thread Pascal Martin, AFUP
Le 23/02/2015 19:15, Nikita Popov a écrit : Voting on the engine exceptions RFC, which proposes to convert existing fatal and recoverable fatal errors into exceptions, has opened: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/engine_exceptions_for_php7#vote Hi, After discussing the main proposition of this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all, On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 06/03/15 23:18, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi Lester, On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 05/03/15 09:40, Rowan Collins wrote: Good point! I'll update documents so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/03/2015 01:30, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi Rowan, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com mailto:rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2015 22:05:05 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of count(). some people expect it return the memory size of the variable. Why? So, some people are wrong, why we need to mess with the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

2015-03-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! Message-ID: 54f07fc7.8050...@php.net Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:31:35 +0100 Guilherme volunteered to create a new RFC for the Throwable interface immediately after this RFC is accepted. Sounds good to me :-) I would say create the RFC :) Nothing says we should immediately rush

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

2015-03-07 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 23.02.2015 um 19:15 schrieb Nikita Popov: Voting is open until 2015-03-08. Voting ends today and it looks like the RFC will be accepted. How should we proceed with regards to the comments I made in Message-ID: 54f07fc7.8050...@php.net Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:31:35 +0100 Guilherme

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

2015-03-07 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Rowan, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Rowan Collins rowan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: What? That's not the same thing at all. I'm pretty sure those functions are deprecated *because* we have array callback forms, so you can use call_user_func to call a method. PHP has a well-defined