Re: [PHP-DEV] "TryX" idom for Enumerations

2021-01-14 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 21:28, Larry Garfield wrote: > > > making a valueOrDefault() method unnecessary. > > $order = SortOrder::tryFrom($input) ?? SortOrder::Asc; > tbh, I would prefer a valueOrDefault() method, partly because it's what I'm used to in my own code* but also I think it would be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 21:55, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Since this is an endless battle, fyi, I'm investigating courses of action. I'll give an update in a week or so. I don't believe this thread is currently productive. Please everyone let this thread be idle for that time? cheers Dan

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald (privat)
Am 15.01.21 um 00:04 schrieb : "With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows" OK, your head is full of shit - what is "windows"? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread  Good Guy 
On 14/01/2021 10:29, Kris Craig wrote: Wait did somebody actually contact this troll's employer?! And his/her ISP.  these days ISPs are taking these things very seriously indeed. -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald (privat)
Am 14.01.21 um 23:45 schrieb Kalle Sommer Nielsen: I don't think anyone is interested in sueing you, quite the contrary, what we wish is for you to stop messaging people via the PHP project's infrastructure you fucking moron when i write to somebody directly your holy infrastructure and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald (privat)
Am 14.01.21 um 23:45 schrieb Kalle Sommer Nielsen: Den fre. 15. jan. 2021 kl. 00.30 skrev Reindl Harald (privat) : to make it easier for you: AUSTRIA not germany - similar laws but wrong country, you waste time to sue me in germany I don't really care where it is, matter of the fact is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Den fre. 15. jan. 2021 kl. 00.30 skrev Reindl Harald (privat) : > to make it easier for you: AUSTRIA not germany - similar laws but wrong > country, you waste time to sue me in germany I don't really care where it is, matter of the fact is that you are incapable of acting like a reasonable human

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald (privat)
Am 14.01.21 um 22:55 schrieb Kalle Sommer Nielsen: Since this is an endless battle, I do not see any other option than taking the battle to legal authorities in Germany (assuming that is where he is located based on name/email locale), not sure if the NetzDG or STGB 185 applies here, but it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Michael Morris
I so rarely post to the list that when I got this tripe I figured the problem had to be pretty widespread which is why I posted a reply to the list. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 3:05 PM Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > He's also apparently has been emailing people individually off-list > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi > Hi, > > On the 7th Apr 2012 Reindl Harald was blocked from php internals: > https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/59421 > > It appears he is working around this block by using an alternative > name for the same domain: > https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/112344 (Although the email >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! He's also apparently has been emailing people individually off-list according to: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/112833 If anyone else receives unpleasant emails from him (or from anyone else), please either: * forward them to the list for all to see. * forward them to myself, if

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jan 14, 2021, at 12:56, Andrew Brown wrote: > > I know named arguments are a hotly contested feature right now, and > honestly I'm not sure where I fall on them right now. But I would also see > this as a complement to named parameters. > > I can see this feature has been debated heavily

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread Andrew Brown
Thanks for the feedback. Thanks for the tip on avoiding embedded images. *Anna*: Definitely agree that long signatures, along with lots of optional parameters can be signs of other issues. That's why I used a 3 parameter signature in my example, where it's "required", "optional", "optional",

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jan 14, 2021, at 10:44, Chase Peeler wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:40 AM Larry Garfield > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 4:29 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > and as explained in the past: if *you guy* ever again contact my > employer asking for the law department

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread AllenJB
Hi, It looks like your images have broken (Random guess: the list may remove attachments). As a general rule, I would suggest avoiding screenshots for code. Common mailing list etiquette for development lists is to avoid attachments or embedded remote images as these tend to get lost in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread Barel
This is handled in a more elegant way by the named arguments of PHP8 https://stitcher.io/blog/php-8-named-arguments With that feature you can just pass the parameters that you need and the others will get their default values Barel On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 18:12, Anna Filina wrote: > > So if

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread Anna Filina
> So if some calling code wants to override a later parameter, it currently needs to pass a value to the earlier optional parameters. I think that this is a code smell that should be addressed by a better design. Here's a detailed explanation of why one should use default parameters sparingly,

[PHP-DEV] Feature Proposal

2021-01-14 Thread Andrew Brown
This is my first foray into PHP internals, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Currently just following the instructions from https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto. Currently this proposal is only a "concept". I propose we add a "default" keyword that can be passed as an argument into a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Chase Peeler
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:40 AM Larry Garfield wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 4:29 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > > > > > and as explained in the past: if *you guy* ever again contact my > > > > employer asking for the law department beause you think some > bugreport > > > > written late at

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Larry Garfield
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 4:29 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > > > and as explained in the past: if *you guy* ever again contact my > > > employer asking for the law department beause you think some bugreport > > > written late at night with a obfuscated email was from me i will *find > > > and fuck*

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Levi Morrison via internals
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:51 AM Chase Peeler wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:47 AM Levi Morrison via internals > wrote: >> >> > > Am 14.01.21 um 03:45 schrieb Dan Ackroyd: >> > > > If anyone else receives unpleasant emails from him (or from anyone >> > > > else), please either: >> > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Chase Peeler
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:47 AM Levi Morrison via internals < internals@lists.php.net> wrote: > > > Am 14.01.21 um 03:45 schrieb Dan Ackroyd: > > > > If anyone else receives unpleasant emails from him (or from anyone > > > > else), please either: > > > > > > > > * forward them to the list for all

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Levi Morrison via internals
> > Am 14.01.21 um 03:45 schrieb Dan Ackroyd: > > > If anyone else receives unpleasant emails from him (or from anyone > > > else), please either: > > > > > > * forward them to the list for all to see. > > > * forward them to myself, if you'd prefer to not have it dealt with in > > > public > > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Kris Craig
> > > and as explained in the past: if *you guy* ever again contact my > > employer asking for the law department beause you think some bugreport > > written late at night with a obfuscated email was from me i will *find > > and fuck* you Wait did somebody actually contact this troll's

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 07:16, Reindl Harald (privat) wrote: > > > > Am 14.01.21 um 03:45 schrieb Dan Ackroyd: > > If anyone else receives unpleasant emails from him (or from anyone > > else), please either: > > > > * forward them to the list for all to see. > > * forward them to myself, if you'd

Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

2021-01-14 Thread Rene Veerman
thank you for taking basic human social skills on this list seriously. :) On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 3:45 AM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:30 AM Reindl Harald (privat) > > wrote: > > > > > what a silly bullshit > > > > > > just because you ar enot capable to setup and properly