, and most
effecient
Not really. A PHP function to implement it, done without recursion,
would be pretty efficient. And unless you're making tens of thousands of
these operations, this is probably a case of premature optimisation.
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I would love such a library to be built into PHP. A more consistent
approach to scalar operations would be great. hello,
world-replace('world', 'php'); would be so much nicer than str_replace
and forgetting the argument order. This is a little off-topic, though.
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Maybe a RFC would also be welcome to complete my suggestion?
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I think perhaps that's the wrong approach. It's valid JSON to have a
list literal at the top level as well,
Excuse my brief brain lapse. PHP arrays are fine for sequential data as
well, and you could also have any other JSON literal value in $_POST
to properties and not
just the property values.
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form of
untrusted input.
It needs to be clear it's a string literal though, and a literal at
that. Otherwise it's a little unclear. Still, I'm more worried about the
CSS.
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would be:
1) do we even need encoding or is UTF8 just fine
UTF8-only is certainly not just fine.
2) what are the flags to be defined for different escaping methods
$.02
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no, let's please only do OOP with the language features.
Creating ridiculous procedural OOP abstractions helps absolutely nobody.
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-escape($str) and
escape($ctx, $str) are essentially equivalent. Besides, examples in the
documentation can make this very simple to understand.
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anyway. Don't complicate things because of
personal preference. There is no reason it cannot stay a simple
function call or two. Wrap that in as many classes as you wish on your
own time. :)
What's complex about a method call?
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function_name? Resembles C (function
pointers!), and unless I'm getting confused, it isn't currently legal
syntax for something else.
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. Arguing against this being OOP, which I think is
useful and requires, at most, one extra line ($x = new Escaper), is silly.
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where escaping applies, the names even in their shorter forms are
fairly obvious as to which context they apply to. I think that
specific education is better served with good quality documentation
and examples (I'm all for docs with a dose of reality).
Fair enough.
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On 19/09/12 18:56, Steve Clay wrote:
On 9/19/12 1:19 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote:
I completely agree. How about function_name? Resembles C (function
pointers!), and unless
I'm getting confused, it isn't currently legal syntax for something
else.
$cb = Foo::doSomething;
$cb = foo_doSomething
On 19/09/12 19:21, Steve Clay wrote:
On 9/19/12 2:01 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Some other ideas:
$cb = (callable) $obj-bar;
Ah, but (callable) that won't work for global functions, since
(callable) is a cast, and
(callable) is not usable as a cast (at least in 5.4.7):
$a = (callable)'str
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processing context, a filter
removes. In computer science, but not computer security, it processes.
I'm very confused :P
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like these:
escapeHTMLAttribute for attributes, escapeHTMLText for text inside
element tags, escapeXMLAttribute and escapeXMLContent,
escapeJSStringLiteral, escapeCSSIdentifier, and another needs adding
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are not realising that filter has a different meaning
depending which field it is used in. It has very different meanings in
computer science and referring to the physical apparatus, compared to
computer security.
Since stopping XSS is a computer security issue, we should discuss it as
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Would this minimise the amount of change (if any) ?
To some extent, yes, but Rasmus is right in that there would be certain
bugs. In C, we don't have implicit string casting, for example.
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I briefly asked Pierre about a feature in it recently. By the sounds of it, it
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Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
I opened this bug report 2 years ago:
https
speculating here, but this would be pretty cool if we could do it.
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be avoided. Rather, I am
saying that I hope any work in this area would give the potential for
additional resource usage very serious consideration.
Adam
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imagine
this could be fixed. We could also add extra rules, but I think fixing
the general issue is more important, since it's like plugging two holes
in a barrel full of water that's just had a machine gun fired at it.
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On 03/09/12 16:20, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
Absolutely.
PHP has no AST? Why? For historical reasons?
I believe so. Rasmus's original parser was not exactly world-class ;)
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, it will because a better parser tool shows up...
Well, current one is bad. It only works well for some common cases. For
others, it doesn.t
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On 03/09/12 17:17, Laruence wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
On 03/09/12 17:03, Laruence wrote:
It is great parser(simple and fast) which make php works well for years..
No, it's not, it's overly complex. You have to define all sorts of different
else
in the language anyway. I'm starting to see huge inconsistencies with
how list is being implemented in foreach.
Possibly more importantly, since 1 should cast to, er, [1] (I think...),
why is $a === NULL?
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If there was a format, it would have to be constant imho.
Then ISO8601, please. It's a single, unambiguous Date and Time format.
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::ISO8601), \n;'
2012-12-31T00:00:00+
^
I'm a little confused as to what is going on here, but ISO8601 has a UTC
format, -MM-DDTHH:MM:SSZ.
cheers,
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On 02/09/12 21:45, Derick Rethans wrote:
Yes, and that format is ambigious like I just illustrated. cheers, Derick
No, you just demonstrated the time offset format is ambiguous, not the
UTC format.
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(default in ECMAScript, for
instance) date/time format.
I see no reason not to use it. Date/time should be UTC anyway when
debugging.
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on, I'm hoping you can give this RFC a look.
- Will
Oh, thank you Will! I saw the bug report suggesting it myself and was
thinking of implementing it. I'm glad to see you thought the same way I
did, and used the ISO-8601 format as the default.
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On 28/08/12 18:14, Will Fitch wrote:
You're right. My apologies.
Good, I was a little worried that I might have missed something you
didn't. It's all well and good.
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standardisation! C++ has better support,
of course, but C++'s magic and abstractions don't seem appropriate.
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Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote:
Hi!
That's where it gets ugly, in my experience; there are lots of
mediocre C++ developers
On 27/08/12 15:49, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Hi derick, can't read the rules now, on mobile. If you're referring to
top-posting/bottom-posting though, that's the fault of the Android
Gingerbread email client, which sucks.
So don't reply from a mobile
They don't, you need voting karma too, having rfc karma isn't enough.
And this is how democracy works, Stas. If voters don't bother to turn up, too
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for :(
OK Lester, you've whined enough, what do you want us to do? Freeze
development for 5 years so ISPs can slowly catch up, or something?
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able to do in Python for
years, but with uglier syntax! :P
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On 25/08/12 14:27, Lester Caine wrote:
Andrew Faulds wrote:
OK Lester, you've whined enough, what do you want us to do? Freeze
development
for 5 years so ISPs can slowly catch up, or something?
Simply taking care to provide fixed point that we can work to would
have helped. LTS versions
On 25/08/12 14:44, Lester Caine wrote:
Andrew Faulds wrote:
ISPs should have moved to 5.3 long ago. If they haven't, that isn't
our problem.
I'll just refer you to
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5/all
5.3 is NOT being used because of the changes it introduced
to match.
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On 23/08/12 17:15, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 08/23/2012 09:09 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Personally, I think you should have just two encodings: page_encoding
and internal_encoding. The former is for form input and page output
(could be latin-1, for instance), and internal_encoding is the internal
Um, Yasuo, have you looked at array_walk implementation and ascertained it is
safe to change array structure while using it?
Because I'm worried you're changing docs without doing so.
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Hi,
2012/8
Also, beware the unavailable UTF8 filenames on some older/badly configured VPS
images. That's bitten me. I now have some files on my VPS with unreadable
mangled UTF-8 names, because they were uploaded from my UTF-8-compliant desktop
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revert the repo immediately.
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and voting on it.
Because no sane person could keep track of the Generators thread just
now with its ridiculous length.
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2012/8/22 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
On 21/08/12 10:36, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Int would be better and callable should be accepted like array_walk().
It's better to have array_delete_recursive(), too.
I updated the page.
Callable? What
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2012/8/22 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
On 21/08/12 21:00, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Hi
2012/8/22 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
On 21/08/12 10:36, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Int would be better and callable should be accepted like array_walk().
It's better to have
On 21/08/12 21:44, Lars Schultz wrote:
Am 20.08.2012 22:51, schrieb Andrew Faulds:
On 20/08/12 21:43, Lars Schultz wrote:
It's a ridiculous argument, IMO. Nothing you could add to core couldn't
be implemented in userland code somehow. (yes, that's hyperbole, but
there is very often a userland
On 21/08/12 22:18, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
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Er, so you're advocating adding another method to do the same thing? Why?
Because novices don't know about array_walk().
I think I've written this over and over in this thread.
So publicise array_walk() then. Don't
On 21/08/12 22:35, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
2012/8/22 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
On 21/08/12 22:18, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
2012/8/22 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
Er, so you're advocating adding another method to do the same thing? Why?
Because novices don't know about array_walk().
I think I've
conventions. (Yasuo,
I'm looking at you)
Cheers,
Levi Morrison
Yeah, this looks like a good solution and we have the best of both worlds.
We get int array_delete($array, $value, $strict=TRUE); and int
array_udelete($array, $value, $callback=bool function ($value $key));
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And there is another use case: removing of list items by value, instead
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or not. So let's
make an RFC (I think array_delete($array, $value, $all=false), mirrors
Python's replace-one-only by default), vote on it, and that can decide
things. So we can avoid argument. Don't like the syntax? Vote against
it, but I don't see how it could be much better.
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On 20/08/12 18:43, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
Am 20.08.2012 19:00, schrieb Andrew Faulds:
On 20/08/12 17:47, Herman Radtke wrote:
May be we should have something like
array_delete_if($array, function($v, $k=null) { if ($v == 300)
return
true; })
So array_filter?
I'll use it or like
and use
`array_slice`. Want to remove all instances of the value in the
array? Use `array_filter`.
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, but consider type hints mean that if you return a
completely wrong type, you can warn the programmer.
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effect.
yield: Yields the value null with an auto-incrementing integer key.
What is the usecase for this?
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not modify opcodes for running code. That is a ginormous hack
and it *will* cause problems with some code.
I can't say much about this in particular, but using hacks and kludges
to implement language features is probably not the best of ideas.
Derick
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it or like for deleting, but the point of this thread is
intuitive function for deleting element(s)
array_delete($array, $value|callable)
would be nicer for users, perhaps.
A callable? Wouldn't that mean you couldn't delete strings? :(
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2012/8/20 Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me:
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2012/8/20 Etienne Kneuss col...@php.net:
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2012/8/18 Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com:
On 08/17/2012 05
). Of course there might be better ways to
implement this, but it was simple and worked. Anything wrong with
allowing the same in PHP?
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be someone who wants their own particular set of
circumstances catered for without having to write their own function
to do it.
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On 19/08/12 01:39, Morgan L. Owens wrote:
On 2012-08-19 10:25, Andrew Faulds wrote:
On 18/08/12 14:52, Morgan L. Owens wrote:
How simple is it? Does it:
1) Remove one occurrence of the element (presumably the first) or all?
2) Reindex the array (as someone else argued was necessary to make
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On 09/08/12 16:58, Nikita Popov wrote:
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Hmm. This is just a quick thought:
Considering the yield syntax will vary about needing () round it, why not
make it a fake function (language construct).
This way it's consistent: yield
has enough
special cases already IMO.
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it, why
not make it a fake function (language construct).
This way it's consistent: yield(), yield($v), yield($k = $v), $a =
yield(), etc.
(yield $x) is just messy as an expression. We don't have (isset $x), we
have isset($x).
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On 05/08/12 19:33, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 12:39, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Great, but couldn't you type some command which would screw it up, by
accident?
What do you mean?
Say your implementation uses some global variable called $history. Now
say I type $history
On 05/08/12 19:44, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 20:36, Andrew Faulds wrote:
On 05/08/12 19:33, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 12:39, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Great, but couldn't you type some command which would screw it up,
by accident?
What do you mean?
Say your
On 05/08/12 22:03, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 20:56, Andrew Faulds wrote:
On 05/08/12 19:44, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 20:36, Andrew Faulds wrote:
On 05/08/12 19:33, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 05/08/12 12:39, Andrew Faulds wrote:
Great, but couldn't you type
it use the correct lib at compile-time, no?
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On 06/08/12 00:37, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me
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On 06/08/12 00:21, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.de mailto:johan
to implement, but I think it needs discussing before
implementing, I am not going to rush.
Thanks.
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into?
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extensions from userland would go beyond
fatal.
Nikita
Aren't shared hosting servers pretty well secured, though? If each site
is under a different userid, surely it can't do much damage?
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Lester, you complain about practically everything being complicated/breaking
compatibility/not working with PHP 5.2. Why complain here? It doesn't help the
signal:noise ratio to moan about something which has no direct effect on you.
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are special, they aren't really errors as such. They wouldn't
become exceptions.
Also, why should an erroring function return a value?
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into E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR.
Which in turn could be turned into Exception by an userland error
handler if the php userland developer wishes it.
Why not just have them exceptions in the first place?
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