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> On 17 May 2018 10:35:11 BST, Etienne Kneuss <col...@php.net> wrote:
> >That said, if the plan is to subsume pecl-weakref, I suggest we also
> >reimplement weakmaps, which offer a conven
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:10 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> Morning internals,
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> I'd like to raise for discussion https://wiki.php.net/rfc/weakrefs
>
> Am I missing anything ?
>
I'm all for implementing all this natively, the way it was implemented in
pecl-weakref always felt
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> Hi,
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> I'd be very thankful for a clear explanation on this:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35656898
>
>
> May be it's just a word game and I don't understand it correctly, but
> documentation states one, though
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:26 PM Alexander Lisachenko lisachenko...@gmail.com
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Hello, internals!
I like the idea to assign a custom identifier to the object, but why this
should be only in the core? Java has a method 'hashCode' which can be used
to return an unique identifier for
On Sat Feb 21 2015 at 21:08:39 Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com wrote:
Zeev,
I won't nit-pick every point, but there are a few I think need to be
clarified.
Proponents of Dynamic STH bring up consistency with the rest of the
language, including some fundamental type-juggling aspects
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Hi,
Answering the question of Christopher Becker. It is not possible to
traverse and get your desired elements.
How would you achieve a foreach by key (returning object) without having to
store a
high (IMO)
cost in your implementation. I believe it is not worth it.
Comparing only one side of this equation with another feature makes no
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-productive: one would expect
to find the object there, not its hash.
As others noted, it also prevents a full-fledged objects-as-key
implementation in the future.
In the end it causes issues and brings very little compared to an explicit
call to convert an object to a key.
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https://wiki.php.net/phpng-upgrading should be completed to
reflect all changes.
It is only then that we can vote with knowledge of how much this big patch
affects the codebase.
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what accessing the property returns?
Even if the change itself does not constitute a big BC break, this
behavior is confusing and seems like a big no-no to me.
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Hi Etienne,
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On Jun 10, 2013 1:24 PM, Etienne Kneuss col...@php.net wrote:
So if I understand correctly var_dump now indicates a different type than
what accessing the property returns?
Even if the change itself does
affected by
this change.
ps: for example having an empty __sleep() or __wakeup implementation would
be entirely differrent that one would expect.
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Etienne Kneuss col...@php.net wrote:
Sure the default implementation would have to be identical to the
behavior of not defining one.
agree
I believe the best way to solve
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approach is to allow exceptions, review the code
(i.e. a lot of work), and eventually fix reports as they come in.
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it to the reflection functions is the proper
place.
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for it.
If reflected properties is a big thing, I'm sure IDE support is as easy
to implement with or without this new syntax.
Introducing new syntax must be done with extreme care, and so far this case
looks quite far from convincing.
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something rarely used (IMO) to be, as I see it: easier to analyze or
refactor; that doesn't qualify(IMO, again) as important enough to warrant a
syntax change.
Awesome.
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::createShape('circle');
$circle-radius = 10;
echo $circle-getArea();
It would be great if this feature could be added to 5.5 :)
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() may not be the most elegant approach,
and using this syntax it does resemble a function - having a more distinct
syntax might be better.
But those things aside, what do you think about having a way to statically
reference types and members?
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
Gah, no top posting!
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Nikita Popov wrote:
This RFC proposes to remove
be properly
unset aka:
$ar = new ArrayObject(array('foo' = array('bar' = array('baz' =
'foo';
unset($ar['foo']['bar']['baz']);
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that the work it would take is worth it.
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there.
On the other hand, the syntax leaves a lot to be desired. It's quite
confusing and really is ugly. As far as how to fix the syntax, I'm not sure.
But I would like to voice my support for the concept...
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accessors and not plain
properties in interfaces.
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property as an underlying private property with
all usual public accessors defined.
From the point of view of the user both should be interchangeable
transparently.
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a property to satisfy
the requirement of an accessor is wrong.
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On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Etienne Kneuss wrote:
I can understand why we might not want that in PHP in order to
simplify the implementation, but it we follow logical reasoning I
can't see why we shouldn't implement that.
With a decent IDE you
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I can understand why we might not want that in PHP in order to
simplify the implementation, but it we follow logical reasoning I
by assigning a property of the same name seems
rather obscure to me.
This is the feedback I have for now. Looking forward to your thoughts
on the manner.
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though it's not really useful, we should have it for the sake of
consistency.
As long as it doesn't cause major technical complications to
implement, I don't see why we shouldn't have that available.
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It seems it has already been taken over: https://github.com/zenovich/runkit
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rethink the let's not throw exceptions from the
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Hi Clint,
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Anyone have any help with this?
hard to say like this with this partial patch, do you have some git
branch I can pull from to reproduce and analyze this?
Alternatively, the complete an up-to-date patch?
Best
unexpected.
I don't see much point in that.
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the source code, I found Z_DELREF_P. Would this be the correct
macro to call? Is there anything else to keep in mind when calling it?
You should use zval_ptr_dtor instead. it will delref and free in case
the refcount hits 0.
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order. I
might be wrong, but still my above argument exist.
I know, not everyone likes that kind of coding style, but I think it
has it's uses.
Etienne Kneuss:
People typically assume empty checks for the empty
string here, and it doesn't. -- why not?
What I meant is that when people do
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the actual clear functionality.
Patch attached to this email, made using 'svn diff'
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Hey Internals,
I'm trying to add a new
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Why you need to add $this there? $this should be available automatically
IIRC unless you make the closure static.
That is not the point I wanted to make. Explicitly
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enable E_STRICT, it should output a warning saying something like
importing $this from invalid context. It is/was scheduled for
cleanup in the next major version.
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that this is the completely wrong
approach to solve the problem and dropping a few hints would be most
appreciated, but any feedback is welcome.
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Apparently you guys are speaking about the initial implementation of an
abstract method, while I was talking about overriding a method
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Apparently you guys are speaking about the initial
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, wouldn't people expect foreach to work when $wm[] access is
possible ?
Personally, I like the current syntax, it's short. I'm just wondering of
any corner case exists?
I'll probably make it iterable in the future, yes.
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implemented a WeakMap class in the weakref pecl ext, see:
http://svn.php.net/viewvc/pecl/weakref/trunk/tests/weakmap_001.phpt?revision=316293view=markup
for an example of usage.
I believe this better fit people's needs. Or did you have something else in
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it might occur in the future, but given the
feedbacks PECL might very well be the right place for it.
that mail was sent on Aug 9.
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Indeed, I planned to implement that as well, I haven't had the time to do
it
yet though. It should happen in the following weeks.
Not to keep you from doing
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To me this feature makes no sense. But if people find use for it and
it remains in Reflection, I won't object to it, so +0.
It should only be used for meta
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Speaking of which, wouldn't it be easier to check all our internal
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