Re: [PHP-DEV] release process with git

2012-04-09 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
This is a very similar process to what OpenStack uses, it seems to work well for them. They have a few guys on freenode in #openstack-infra that have shown themselves more than willing to go into detail about their setup and its pro/con's.. It would be worth asking them for their experience...

Re: [PHP-DEV] Reindl's inappropriate behaviour (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP class files without ?php at the top)

2012-04-07 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote: You repeatly call people stupid, or like a child or what terrible happened in your life and that is *not* allowed behaviour here. If you (or anyone else for that matter) can't refrain from that, you have no place on this

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP as a template language

2012-04-07 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
It's probably worth mentioning, to be fair to Reindl, that he can no longer respond publically to this list.. Thanks, Kiall Sent from my phone. On Apr 7, 2012 8:07 p.m., Maciek Sokolewicz maciek.sokolew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07-04-2012 03:10, John Crenshaw wrote: Seriously, if you're so

Re: [PHP-DEV] 回复: [PHP-DEV] resume after exception

2012-04-03 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Retry is a feature I would very much like to see... While it's not stritcly necessary to implement in core, it makes the code much cleaner.. Thanks, Kiall Sent from my phone. On Apr 3, 2012 8:28 a.m., reeze reeze@gmail.com wrote: If just for exception recovery how about implement ruby's

Re: [PHP-DEV] Perl logo in the php website

2012-04-02 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
LOL - Nice ;) Thanks, Kiall Sent from my phone. On Apr 2, 2012 7:42 a.m., Charlie Somerville char...@charliesomerville.com wrote: April fools On Monday, 2 April 2012 at 4:41 PM, Eloy Bote Falcon wrote: Hi internals, Maybe this is not the correct list to ask this, but why is the perl

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Adopt GitFlow process

2012-03-26 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney weierophin...@php.net wrote: One thing I'll point out is that git-flow is a set of extensions and aliases for the git CLI. I don't believe that is entirely accurate. git-flow is two things, both sharing a single name. git-flow is a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Git merging fun and a local clone-per branch workflow

2012-03-22 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: 1. I had fun with a couple of small git merges today. I was trying to use local clones as briefly outlined on irc by dsp. Multiple clones for each branch will be *much **much* harder to manage from a

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5.4 'nannying'

2012-03-18 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
May I suggest changing the error reporting value, that way we can stop hearing about your damn code ;) Seriously though, I doubt anyone has a guide like that. I know I've always had E_STRICT enabled and honestly don't have the slightest clue how to trigger a strict warning. When you develop with

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Git Migration: Status Update

2012-03-06 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Drak d...@zikula.org wrote: [snip] Forcing pushes to one's own topic branches in one's own fork can be acceptable providing upstream maintainers know before merging (for example squashing some work after peer review), but not to the central repo without some

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scalar type hinting

2012-03-01 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Both provide something that a large number of people did not or do not want anything to do with. I disagree - The majority of PHP developers I've discussed this with are in favor of adding *something *like this. Do a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possibility to add finally to try/catch?

2012-02-28 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
+1000 This is a feature that I've always wanted in PHP, My main reason being to reduce code duplication. eg try { $fh = fopen($filename); // Do some work on the file + encounter an error. throw new Exception(); } catch (Exception $e) { // Log an error or something } finally {

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possibility to add finally to try/catch?

2012-02-28 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
-i-e.com: On Tue, February 28, 2012 8:22 am, Kiall Mac Innes wrote: +1000 This is a feature that I've always wanted in PHP, My main reason being to reduce code duplication. eg try { $fh = fopen($filename); // Do some work on the file + encounter an error. throw new

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possibility to add finally to try/catch?

2012-02-28 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Kiall Mac Innes ki...@managedit.ie wrote: Yes, You could abstract the try/catch into a new (and un-needed) function to try and emulate the behavior of finally.. Unless, for example, you

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possibility to add finally to try/catch?

2012-02-28 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
method `/' for 2:String from (irb):3:in `divide' from (irb):18 from :0 Thanks, Kiall On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Kiall Mac Innes ki...@managedit.ie wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Kiall Mac Innes ki

Re: [PHP-DEV] Possibility to add finally to try/catch?

2012-02-28 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.comwrote: Last time we looked into it we couldn't make a clean implementation of it that worked well. If anybody has good ideas about how to do it, please provide a patch. Right - I don't claim, even for a moment, to have the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Suhosin patch disabled by default in Debian php5 builds

2012-02-04 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Hi John, Ondřej (One of the Debian PHP maintainers) listed 5 or 6 reasons in the initial email in this thread. Honestly, I can't think of a good reason for Debian or anyone else to include 3rd party patches, whatever the patches purpose, in the default PHP packages. I would argue that, if

Re: [PHP-DEV] Shebang parsing

2012-01-26 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Surely you can detect which operating system you're running on, and have PHP act accordingly? (Note: on my phone, haven't read the link!) Kiall Sent from my mobile - Sorry for being short. On Jan 26, 2012 10:08 a.m., de...@lucato.it wrote: Hi, from

Re: [PHP-DEV] CS random values

2011-12-21 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote: 1. /dev/random and /dev/urandom are unavailable on Windows and cannot be fopen()¹ed in safe mode on *nix/nux Safe mode has been deprecated for two and a half years.. Adding features to work around its limitations is (IMO) a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP

2011-08-27 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
See inline. Kiall Sent from a mobile - sorry for being short! On Aug 27, 2011 5:22 p.m., Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Richard Quadling wrote: Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a challenge. That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Activation of IGBinary serialization extension in 5.4 by default

2011-08-18 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Some others systems use something similar to syntax checking (ldap password hashes). Baisically, prefix a code to the serialized string to indicate what method was used to serialize. Eg no prefix, or $O$ for the old style. Or $I$ for the igbinary syntax. This has the advantage of allowing

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-13 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
: Lester Caine wrote: Kiall Mac Innes wrote: The Drupal document referenced is not explaining How to develop Drupal but rather How to develop a drupal based site using git. Actually in my book that is one of the same thing once we move to more complex sites. Parts of my own sites ARE packages under

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-13 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I don't have a problem with DVCS, just with projects ploughing into using git a year ago when it was ( and still is ) not ready for those type of projects :( I think you're talking about submodules not being ready -

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-12 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Actually they are talking about developing Drupal ... The Drupal document referenced is not explaining How to develop Drupal but rather How to develop a drupal based site using git. The section titled Creating a Working

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-07 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Hi David, Think I may have spotted a mistake in the RFC: Decentralized version control system have some drawbacks: *... Snip .. * no svn:externals, no svn:eol-style Later on in the doc, you go into detail about submodules, and CRLF - LF support in both Git and Hg. Thanks, Kiall On Sun,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-07 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Yes - Gerrit is what Typo3, CyanogenMod, OpenStack and of course, Android are using... The OpenStack guys have a good introduction on how to use Gerrit from a developers point of view - http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow The CyanogenMod guys have a good introduction on how to use Gerrit

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP (or not). Call for Participation.

2011-08-07 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Richard Riley wrote: Its really simple. Use git. And stick two fingers up at the windows developer base ;) I admit I don't use windows often, but when I do, TortoiseGit has always worked fine for me! It works, is

Re: [PHP-DEV] CLI: input password without showing it

2011-07-23 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Check the password method here: https://github.com/kohana-minion/core/blob/develop/classes/minion/cli.php It should do what you want on windows+linux.. Kiall On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: hi is there any way to request a password from a user

[PHP-DEV] Built-in web server routing script and static assets

2011-07-11 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
Hiya, I've been playing with the built-in server, and have some concerns over how static assets are handled. Currently, to run an application on the built-in server, we essentially need to list out all the static assets that should be served directly from disk. This is the opposite of what I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Built-in web server routing script and static assets

2011-07-11 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
/11/11 6:46 AM, Kiall Mac Innes wrote: Hiya, I've been playing with the built-in server, and have some concerns over how static assets are handled. Currently, to run an application on the built-in server, we essentially need to list out all the static assets that should be served directly

Re: [PHP-DEV] Big patch for FPM (config and initialization)

2011-07-03 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
FPM is still new, and only just getting the experimental flag removed, now is the only time to make any BC breaking cosmitic changes that will lead to less confusion in the long run.. That said - I'm not sure about the diagnostics group name.. Maybe allow for both the old and new naming on 5.4

Re: [PHP-DEV] FR #54098 - default FPM values for processes

2011-07-02 Thread Kiall Mac Innes
I tend to agree. A working out of the box configuration is no harder for sysadmins needing to change it, and easier for developers to just install and run.. Kiall On Jul 2, 2011 7:00 p.m., Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: Why not just set it low as he suggested? That's what Apache and