On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, at 14:13, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
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> On 15 June 2024 18:39:20 BST, Valentin Udaltsov
> wrote:
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> >PHP does not have internal/private functions.
> >Very often I use functions for really simple things like `array_flatten`
> >(and register them via
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, at 11:17, Bilge wrote:
> Let's start getting specific so we can make some progress.
>
> The goals of this RFC are fairly straightforward:
> • Introduce the `static` keyword at the class level to preclude the need to
> create a private constructor. That is, `__construct`
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024, at 10:33, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
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> On 16 June 2024 03:00:39 BST, "Marco Aurélio Deleu"
> wrote:
> >If you appoint a different jury to try a 20 year old case, the decision of
> >the previous jury doesn't have any more weight than any other evidence on
> >its
On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, at 16:40, Bilge wrote:
> On 15/06/2024 14:53, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> > On 15/06/2024 12:16, Bilge wrote:
> >>
> >> I want to introduce the `static` keyword at the class declaration
> >> level. That is, the following would be valid: `static class Foo {}`.
> >
> >
>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024, at 15:36, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024, at 6:47 AM, Rob Landers wrote:
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> > I’m also not a fan of the prefix style, but for different reasons. My
> > main reason is that it increases the minimum line-length, potentially
> > forcing
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024, at 19:51, Rodrigo Vieira wrote:
> I didn't like the `Prefix-style` syntax. I prefer the `Hook-embedded-style`
> syntax. First let's look at the counterpoints of the `Prefix-style` syntax:
>
> ## 1) "`Prefix-style` is more visually scannable"
> > The set visibility is 10
On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, at 21:02, Andreas Hennings wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 20:31, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, at 5:56 PM, ericm...@php.net wrote:
> >
> > >> Instead of ~ (which reminds me of the pendulum of symbols to written to
> > >> symbols and back again every
On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, at 18:03, Benoît Condaminet wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Following the RFC process, I'm sending this to propose a PHP change. More
> precisely a new zend language token.
>
> This is somehow linked to the recently accepted RFC called "new
> MyClass()->method() without
; On Thu, 23 May 2024, 16:28 Rob Landers, wrote:
>> __
>> On Thu, May 23, 2024, at 16:50, Derick Rethans wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I've noticed that lately, people are adding a [Discussion] prefix to new
>>> threads to this list. That seems rather su
On Thu, May 23, 2024, at 16:50, Derick Rethans wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've noticed that lately, people are adding a [Discussion] prefix to new
> threads to this list. That seems rather superfluous, as this is a
> *discussion* mailing list.
>
> RFCs require us to use [RFC] and [Vote] to stand out,
On Tue, May 21, 2024, at 14:39, Arnaud Le Blanc wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> > This sounds like a bug with Mac vs. a PHP issue.
>
> This is what I believe as well. FWIW I was able to reproduce the issue
> outside of PHP [2]. I've reported the bug to Apple, but I don't expect
> it to be fixed
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024, at 21:40, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> On 02/04/2024 20:02, Ilija Tovilo wrote:
>> But, does it matter? I'm not sure we look at some commits closer than
>> others, based on its author. It's true that it might be easier to
>> identify malicious commits if they all come from
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024, at 20:51, Bruce Weirdan wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 8:05 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote:
>
> > Equality for data objects is based on data, rather than the object
> > handle.
>
> I believe equality should always consider the type of the object.
>
> ```php
> new
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 17:53, Saki Takamachi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I posted this just when the mailing list was having some trouble, so I'll add
> a reply just in case.
>
> Regards.
>
> Saki
Instead of creating a BC break (which will probably affect older, less
maintained libraries the most),
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, at 02:36, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> On Monday, 11 March 2024 at 16:11, Larry Garfield
> wrote:
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> >
> > Woof. That's my kind of RFC. :-) The extensive background helps a lot,
> > thank you.
> >
> > I am generally in favor of this, and have wanted more fine-grained
>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024, at 13:52, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> Hello internals,
>
> I would like to get some initial feedback on an RFC I've been working on for
> the last 5–6 months.
> The RFC attempts to explain, and most importantly, improve the semantics
> around $container[$offset] as PHP is
On Sat, Mar 2, 2024, at 22:10, Kamil Tekiela wrote:
> Hi Internals,
>
> I would like to start a discussion on a new RFC
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-get-post-sessions
>
> Please let me know whether the idea is clear and the RFC is understandable.
>
> In particular, I am looking for any
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, at 17:16, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, at 10:01 AM, Frederik Bosch wrote:
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> > Hi Rowan,
> >
> > Our discussion sums up the pros and cons. Whether yield is
> > complicated/confusing or not, is maybe personal. The same applies to
> > getting $this->prop
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, at 00:11, Frederik Bosch wrote:
> Hi Rowan,
>
> On 26-02-2024 23:46, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
>> On 26/02/2024 20:21, Frederik Bosch wrote:
>>> I do note that $this->propName might suggest that the backing value is
>>> accessible from other locations than only the
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024, at 19:01, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> On 26/02/2024 16:14, Rob Landers wrote:
> > There wasn’t any mention about issues FROM Gmail TO the list. I sent
> > this email because it didn’t seem like ANYONE was aware of the issue
> > (otherwise someone would
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024, at 12:03, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, at 20:02, Rob Landers wrote:
> > Before I get to the meat of this email, first of all, IMHO, anyone should
> > be able to email the list, even if they are not a
> > member of the list. I'v
Hello internals, from an alternate email address that hopefully works...
Before I get to the meat of this email, first of all, IMHO, anyone should be
able to email the list, even if they are not a member of the list. I've had to
email ubuntu lists about bugs before and I really have no desire
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