Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-19 Thread Timm Friebe
Hi, been busy again at work, sorry for the late answer. I can look into setting up a cruise-control-like infrastructure on our dev-machines that'll run these periodically. Thanks for the offer, that would be very helpful. Is it possible to have it for windows as well? It could also help if

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-17 Thread Nuno Lopes
What would rock is to have it supported by gcov (by us or somewhere else with a public report), would it be possible? How can I get this done? I'm adding Nuno to the loop, he is the one leading the gcov initiative and will surely explain the setup in a better way than me :) I can add it,

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-16 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Brian Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: You need it? Please help me to maintain and to provide reliable binaries for windows This statements makes it sound like extensions that do not build on Windows should be removed. That sounds insane to

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Timm Friebe
Hi, Can be moved PECL - interbase - fpdf - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct Sybase can be moved, it is unmaintained. I would've done this long ago if I could, karma-wise. Sybase_ct works perfectly for us at 11 and despite feature requests that exist and me not having put big efforts into it

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Pierre Joye wrote: Can be moved PECL - interbase - fpdf - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct Please let me know if you can either help to maintain an extension or if you see any issue with one of these moves. i can help with fpdf if needed but it should go to PECL nonetheless ... -- Hartmut

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Timm, On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Timm Friebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can be moved PECL - interbase - fpdf - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct Sybase can be moved, it is unmaintained. I would've done this long ago if I could, karma-wise. Let see what other thinks about this

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Timm Friebe
Hi, But if we work together, it should be possible to keep them. Let me ask you the same than I ask to Lester, will you help us to keep sybase_ct in php-src? You don't need to know C or php internals but to actually provide tests and run them when we update the libraries or releases RC.

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Timm Friebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if we work together, it should be possible to keep them. Let me ask you the same than I ask to Lester, will you help us to keep sybase_ct in php-src? You don't need to know C or php internals but to actually provide

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Philip Olson
/ Un*x: Get a .tar.gz, unpack, phpize, configure and make (last time I tried that didn't work for me, must've been some wrong auto-whatever). If the release is done correctly, a simple pecl install sybase works. This is an important point because unfortunately in the past a moved to

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Jani Taskinen
Philip Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: / Un*x: Get a .tar.gz, unpack, phpize, configure and make (last time I tried that didn't work for me, must've been some wrong auto-whatever). If the release is done correctly, a simple pecl install sybase works. And on a related note, have we

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-15 Thread Brian Moon
Pierre Joye wrote: You need it? Please help me to maintain and to provide reliable binaries for windows This statements makes it sound like extensions that do not build on Windows should be removed. That sounds insane to me. Please elaborate. I must not understand what you are trying to

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do not agree with. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do not agree with. Who will maintain them? Who can

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.06.2008, at 16:24, Pierre Joye wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to support them. If it is so widely used, why noone complains about this removal? Why there is nobody taking care of the bugs or

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to support them. If it is so widely used, why noone complains about this removal? Why there is nobody taking

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi Pierre, Like I said on IRC, if the ext end up being broken, but remain in core they can get fixed and made available easily to all users. If we move them, then this is no longer possible. We can revist this topic for PHP6, but I do not think we should start dropping these extension in

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do not agree with. Who will maintain them? Who can we ask when there is issues (besides the obvious ones)? These extension seem widely used enough

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to support them. If it is so

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from the problems created by changes made to the interbase driver in the 5.1 and early 5.2 cycle ( the 64 bit version of which STILL has not been repaired :( ) the driver still works fine with modern

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from the problems created by changes made to the interbase driver in the 5.1 and early 5.2 cycle ( the 64 bit version of which STILL has not been repaired :( ) the driver still works

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Steph Fox
Lester, hi, I even installed a development build of PHP6 some time ago, but if there is going to be TWO versions of PHP6 then to be honest I am not interested. There haven't been for the last couple of weeks. We're just waiting for Scott to finish with the Engine work so that we can commit

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Steph Fox wrote: As far as I'm aware there's nothing in PHP 6 that can't be supported from PHP 5.2.1 up, but there's plenty in PHP 5.3 that a lot of developers will like. AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! --

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi Lester, Am Samstag, den 14.06.2008, 21:13 +0100 schrieb Lester Caine: [...] AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! Please, don't yell. KTHXBYE cu, Lars signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Steph Fox
As far as I'm aware there's nothing in PHP 6 that can't be supported from PHP 5.2.1 up, but there's plenty in PHP 5.3 that a lot of developers will like. AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! Please don't shout,

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However, one thing is sure, I can't do it alone. For two reasons, I'm not a

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However, one

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.06.2008, at 22:32, Lester Caine wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However, one thing is sure, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Richard Quadling
2008/6/14 Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to support them. If it is so widely used, why noone

[PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-12 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, While reviewing the different extensions for the windows build, I found that many are unmaintained without any commit since year(s). Other are already removed from HEAD and some may be continued to live in core but it would require some love. * Extension being deleted (not removed, a cvs

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-12 Thread Brian Moon
Pierre Joye wrote: - smnp nice ext, any ISP out there willing to help? I can help for the windows support Hmm, we use this. Is it broken for 5.3 or something? What do we need to do to keep this alive? -- Brian Moon Senior Developer/Engineer -- When you

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-12 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Brian, On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Brian Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: - smnp nice ext, any ISP out there willing to help? I can help for the windows support Hmm, we use this. Is it broken for 5.3 or something? What do we need to do to keep this alive? It

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-12 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:31 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote: * Extension being deleted (not removed, a cvs rm will be done) mhash, no impact as we provide a compatibility layer via ext/hash (Thanks to Scott) We should keep this somewhere in Siberia like we did with other extensions we

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-12 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:31 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote: * Extension being deleted (not removed, a cvs rm will be done) mhash, no impact as we provide a compatibility layer via ext/hash (Thanks to Scott) We