Yes, there is a reason:
As it was explained before, lemon would not display token names but
actual token values. So instead of Unexpected T_PAABLAH it would say
Unexpected '::' ...
hello,
value of some tokens is not what would be expected either. Think a bit about
T_STRING for example.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote:
On 11/1/10 1:47 PM, Felipe Pena wrote:
2010/11/1 Richard Lynch c...@l-i-e.com
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Felipe Pena felipe...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/1 Richard Lynch c...@l-i-e.com
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Felipe Pena felipe...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/1 Richard Lynch c...@l-i-e.com
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can we
It's amazing to me this has become such a long discussion. The facts are
simple:
1) People don't ask for the other parse errors even half as often as they as
for T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
2) They do so because it looks like gibberish to them, so it looks unlikely
to be a common thing you can
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: maandag 1 november 2010 10:19
Aan: internals@lists.php.net
Onderwerp: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to
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Urgentie: Laag
It's amazing to me this has become
Haarbrink den...@born05.nl:
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: maandag 1 november 2010 10:19
Aan: internals@lists.php.net
Onderwerp: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to
T_DOUBLE_COLON
Urgentie: Laag
It's amazing to me this has
On 30 October 2010 01:47, admin ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come
across it. Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't
have to hear about it constantly?
Those that
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:58:36AM +0100, Dennis Haarbrink wrote:
Come on people, what exactly is the problem with a once-in-a-lifetime
investment of 5 seconds of your time to google some stupid error message.
Something you, as a developer, spend your life doing.
Please, stop complaining
On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes, by not changing
this you'r annoying thousands of people.
Instead of going for this cosmetic nonsense you should help those people on the
lemon branch.
I am insulted every time I
+1
This solves lots of other problems we have and will have in the future.
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On 1 Nov 2010, at 12:00, Stefan Marr p...@stefan-marr.de wrote:
On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes,
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:59:54PM +0100, Stefan Marr wrote:
On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes, by not changing
this you'r annoying thousands of people.
Instead of going for this cosmetic nonsense you should
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Cc: Dennis Haarbrink; Stan Vass; internals@lists.php.net
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Sent: 01 November 2010 12
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On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:23:07PM +, James Butler wrote:
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From: Alexander Schrijver
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:36:24PM +0100, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
It's the policy:
There are two reasons this term will stay. It is a tip of the hat to
the amount of PHP work that came out of Israel, and it is a good
reminder that
: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:59:54PM +0100, Stefan Marr wrote:
On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes, by not
changing
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Alexander Schrijver
alexander.schrij...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:36:24PM +0100, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
It's the policy:
There are two reasons this term will stay. It is a tip of the hat to
the amount of PHP work that came out of
On Nov 01 13:43:14, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:36:24PM +0100, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
It's the policy:
There are two reasons this term will stay. It is a tip of the hat to
the amount of PHP work that came out of Israel, and it is a good
Stan Vass wrote:
It's amazing to me this has become such a long discussion. The facts are
simple:
1) People don't ask for the other parse errors even half as often as
they as for T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
2) They do so because it looks like gibberish to them, so it looks
unlikely to be a common
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Makes sense, just alias it and change the error message thus keeping bc.
Please just move on.
Everything possible has been said already. If we feel like there are
critical issues introduced by this error message, then we
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON
so I don't have to hear about it constantly?
Those that disagree don't
2010/11/1 Richard Lynch c...@l-i-e.com
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON
so I don't have to hear
On 11/1/10 1:47 PM, Felipe Pena wrote:
2010/11/1 Richard Lynch c...@l-i-e.com
On Fri, October 29, 2010 7:47 pm, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can we please change the token name to
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:50:29PM -0500, Jack Timmons wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an
error message that should be straight forward, isn't.
You misunderstand my point.
Colon? Be doubly sure to eat a healthy fiber enriched diet with plenty of water!
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On 10/30/2010 07:50 PM, Jack Timmons wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an
error message that should be straight forward, isn't.
You misunderstand my point.
It isn't
On 10/29/2010 09:29 PM, James Butler wrote:
I'll bite.
Why should this be changed? Is it broken? Is it something that 1 second on
google can't answer?
If somebody is advanced enough to be using classes (I think about the only time
you would use a double colon) then they should know what it
, a story (and history) to PHP. Don't think we should take this out
after a good 12 years.
I would prefer this was not changed.
Andi
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 5:47 PM
To: internals php list
Subject: [PHP-DEV] rename
As you mention, PHP errors are token names. Users have to read the
manual to understand them at first sight. Then, what's the matter in
having a bit of fun and nostalgia naming the tokens ?
Switching to meanful error messages would make your point though.
Pierre.
Le samedi 30 octobre 2010 à
On 10/30/2010 01:23 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
The first google entry when you search for it gives you the answer. It is
actually unbelievably easy to find the answer via search. If a new PHP
developer can't find it then maybe they shouldn't be writing code.
This is a piece of history from the
On 10/29/10 11:17 PM, Chad Emrys wrote:
The fact they have to google to figure out what it means, the error
message fails at it's purpose. (Realistically it'll take longer than a
second unless you got google hot keyed to your log reader). I Liked
Stefan's idea in the previous thread to not
On 10/30/2010 01:30 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 10/29/10 11:17 PM, Chad Emrys wrote:
The fact they have to google to figure out what it means, the error
message fails at it's purpose. (Realistically it'll take longer than a
second unless you got google hot keyed to your log reader). I
On 10/30/2010 11:53 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I would prefer this was not changed.
+1 (for the same reasons)
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Hi!
I can see only positives by switching it out. can someone give me a
light on how much it would actually cost to do that? Some negatives? I
It would probably require bribing all the opponents, so the cost would
be in high six digits (in $US) I guess.
what I am trying to point out as
On 10/30/2010 01:36 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
I can see only positives by switching it out. can someone give me a
light on how much it would actually cost to do that? Some negatives? I
It would probably require bribing all the opponents, so the cost would
be in high six digits (in $US)
On 30 okt 2010, at 08:34, Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net wrote:
On 10/30/2010 11:53 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I would prefer this was not changed.
+1 (for the same reasons)
I agree with Andi, Rasmus and the other people in favor.
This token name is part of the history of PHP and adds
Den 2010 10 30 03:51 skrev Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org:
* snip *
What is in a name anyway?
There's something VERY ironic about a statement like that given what you're
asking for ...
Regards
Peter
On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Riel mike.vanr...@naenius.com wrote:
* snip *
(additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple question on IRC whilst
googling provides your answer faster..)
Most of the people coming to ##php on freenode asking questions like
that have a hard time
On 10/30/2010 02:09 AM, Mike Van Riel wrote:
On 30 okt 2010, at 08:34, Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net wrote:
On 10/30/2010 11:53 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I would prefer this was not changed.
+1 (for the same reasons)
I agree with Andi, Rasmus and the other people in favor.
This
On 10/30/2010 02:11 AM, Peter Lind wrote:
Den 2010 10 30 03:51 skrev Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org
mailto:ad...@codeangel.org:
* snip *
What is in a name anyway?
There's something VERY ironic about a statement like that given what
you're asking for ...
Regards
Peter
It was intentional
On 10/30/2010 02:16 AM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Rielmike.vanr...@naenius.com wrote:
* snip *
(additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple question on IRC whilst
googling provides your answer faster..)
Most of the people coming to ##php on
On 30 October 2010 09:34, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 02:16 AM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Rielmike.vanr...@naenius.com wrote:
* snip *
(additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple question on IRC
whilst
googling provides your
On 30 October 2010 02:51, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
What is in a name anyway?
Would a T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM by any other name make a difference?
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On 10/30/2010 10:01 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
On 30 October 2010 02:51, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
What is in a name anyway?
Would a T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM by any other name make a difference?
To provide a counterargument, it certainly would. I don't consider
myself an
On 30 okt 2010, at 09:34, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 02:16 AM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Rielmike.vanr...@naenius.com
wrote:
* snip *
(additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple question on
IRC whilst
googling provides your
On 30.10.2010 08:34, Chad Emrys wrote:
Well Rasmus, I wish you would hang out more in ##php on freenode. (I
see you there every so often) But we do get that question about that
thing a lot. And even some rage, and I have to cool them off with all
the reasons you and Andi are giving me
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:50, Daniel Jänecke jaene...@gmx.li wrote:
Well, isn't the problem here more people asking on IRC rather than using
a search engine before? Renaming will not solve that.
In this case, one might argue that it would. Instead of what's a
T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM? you
As a further reason, (not that I think that's it needed)
When doing anything vaguely specialist, e.g engineering, medicine, sport, you
require a precise set of terminology so two or more people can communicate
clearly. The result of this is that if you want to play in a domain, you must
be
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:30:04PM -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
with unfamiliar terms every day. I wouldn't mind having a few more
non-English identifiers in PHP actually.
I don't know if i can make suggestions as an outsider. However, i really like
the dutch language and it would be really
On 10/30/2010 05:50 AM, Daniel Jänecke wrote:
On 30.10.2010 08:34, Chad Emrys wrote:
Well Rasmus, I wish you would hang out more in ##php on freenode. (I
see you there every so often) But we do get that question about that
thing a lot. And even some rage, and I have to cool them off with
On 10/30/2010 09:55 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:50, Daniel Jäneckejaene...@gmx.li wrote:
Well, isn't the problem here more people asking on IRC rather than using
a search engine before? Renaming will not solve that.
In this case, one might argue that it
On 10/30/2010 09:55 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:50, Daniel Jäneckejaene...@gmx.li wrote:
Well, isn't the problem here more people asking on IRC rather than using
a search engine before? Renaming will not solve that.
In this case, one might argue that it
On 10/30/2010 03:46 AM, Mike Van Riel wrote:
On 30 okt 2010, at 09:34, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 02:16 AM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Rielmike.vanr...@naenius.com
wrote:
* snip *
(additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:35, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
Most likely not, we don't get tons of questions about other parser errors,
unless the person refuses to read the error message to begin with (Those
can't be fixed, true. But this for those people that DO read the messages,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Change for the sake of it is a bad thing. It does things like introduce bugs
etc.
Q1) is it broken?
Q2) if yes exactly what is broken
Q3) does the proposes fix solve the root cause?
I'm not sure changing the token name is the correct fix to people not knowing
On 10/30/2010 11:41 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:35, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
Most likely not, we don't get tons of questions about other parser errors,
unless the person refuses to read the error message to begin with (Those
can't be fixed, true. But
On 10/30/2010 11:43 AM, James Butler wrote:
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Change for the sake of it is a bad thing. It does things like introduce bugs
etc.
Q1) is it broken?
Q2) if yes exactly what is broken
Q3) does the proposes fix solve the root cause?
I'm not sure changing the token
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my opinion
has merit, and I keep seeing the exact same argument over and over again
that I believe is not a very good argument (They can just google it thing).
On 10/30/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my opinion
has merit, and I keep seeing the exact same argument over and over again
that I believe is not a
On 30 October 2010 19:18, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my
opinion
has merit, and I keep seeing the
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
I just know the bigger culture of those who use PHP, and some of them are
quite annoyed by the dismissive nature of the maintainers who are quite at
odds to what the majority of the community want or needs.
As one of
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:44:41 -0500
Jack Timmons codeac...@codeacula.com wrote:
Also, as one who also answers other's questions (although not IRC,
because its my experience most people asking/*answering* questions on
there are dbags),
FTFY.
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Are you supporting users who you provide a shared hosting embodiment too, and
do you control binary installations on the enviroments? If so then possibly
patching source for you installs maybe the easiest and quickest solution.
If we knew the nature of your support requirements, then we could
On 10/30/2010 01:02 PM, James Butler wrote:
Are you supporting users who you provide a shared hosting embodiment too, and
do you control binary installations on the enviroments? If so then possibly
patching source for you installs maybe the easiest and quickest solution.
If we knew the nature
On 10/30/2010 12:57 PM, Mark Skilbeck wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:44:41 -0500
Jack Timmonscodeac...@codeacula.com wrote:
Also, as one who also answers other's questions (although not IRC,
because its my experience most people asking/*answering* questions on
there are dbags),
FTFY.
On 10/30/2010 12:44 PM, Jack Timmons wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
I just know the bigger culture of those who use PHP, and some of them are
quite annoyed by the dismissive nature of the maintainers who are quite at
odds to what the
On 10/30/2010 12:44 PM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:18, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.orgwrote:
It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I
On 30 October 2010 22:13, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
*snip*
I actually know Etienne, he does spend some of his time fighting the good
fight of supporting PHP :p. Anyway he has said the lemon parser project is
going kind of slow as it is proving to be more difficult because some
On 10/30/2010 03:21 PM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 22:13, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
*snip*
I actually know Etienne, he does spend some of his time fighting the good
fight of supporting PHP :p. Anyway he has said the lemon parser project is
going kind of slow as it
On 10/30/2010 03:21 PM, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 22:13, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
*snip*
I actually know Etienne, he does spend some of his time fighting the good
fight of supporting PHP :p. Anyway he has said the lemon parser project is
going kind of slow as it
On Oct 30 19:44:08, Peter Lind wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:18, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote:
It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my
On 10/30/2010 03:32 PM, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
lemon would indeed get rid of actual names for such tokens, and would
rather display unnexpected ::.
The problem with lemon is that it turns out to still be a tad bit slower
than yacc, with some complications on the grammar side (the compiler
helper
From a completely separate stand point. The ability to customise what token
names show up as in an error seems like a much better solution
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On 30 Oct 2010, at 21:41, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
On 10/30/2010 03:32 PM, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
lemon
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an
error message that should be straight forward, isn't.
You misunderstand my point.
It isn't straightforward for -you- because that isn't your native
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they
come across it. Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON
so I don't have to hear about it constantly?
Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 20:47, admin ad...@codeangel.org wrote:
Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is
asked. it's worth it.
Someone disagreeing with your request to change something does not
correlate to their doing enough PHP support. There are many
On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come
across it.
Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to hear
about it
constantly?
Those that disagree don't do
On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come
across it.
Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to hear
about
On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:17 PM, admin wrote:
On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come
across it.
Can we please change the token name
On 10/29/2010 8:17 PM, admin wrote:
obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.
obviously you didn't stop to learn the art of persuasion.
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On 10/29/2010 08:31 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:17 PM, admin wrote:
obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.
obviously you didn't stop to learn the art of persuasion.
That's just rude, dude.
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On 10/29/2010 08:24 PM, Scott MacVicar wrote:
On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:17 PM, admin wrote:
On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when
I'll bite.
Why should this be changed? Is it broken? Is it something that 1 second on
google can't answer?
If somebody is advanced enough to be using classes (I think about the only time
you would use a double colon) then they should know what it means.
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 21:24, Scott MacVicar sc...@macvicar.net wrote:
using a name like admin in your email headers isn't going to be very
receptive.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Glad not to be the only one. ;-P
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