Re: [PHP-DEV] Implicit isset in ternary operator

2012-07-23 Thread Rafael Dohms
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Alex Aulbach alex.aulb...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/7/23 Sanford Whiteman swhitemanlistens-softw...@cypressintegrated.com: I think that you can compare the situation to the short if syntax ($a $b ? $c : $d) Not sure I understand... that *is* the situation

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Proposal - Attributes read/write visibility

2012-07-23 Thread André Rømcke
On 7/16/12 5:29 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Amaury Bouchard ama...@amaury.net wrote: Yes, but only if you have to write an accessor. If you just want an attribute that is: - readable from everywhere - writable from the current class only

Re: [PHP-DEV] Regarding PHP6, string/array APIs

2012-07-23 Thread André Rømcke
On 7/20/12 2:33 AM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, So I've been thinking about this for a while. Here's what I've come up with: 1. We want to maintain loose typing, so implementing a different API on string than on int types would be bad. 2. We want to retain backwards

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Generators in PHP

2012-07-23 Thread Sara Golemon
My first thought was how could someone reading the code see, that it is a generator? Somewhat snarky answer: By documenting the code in the first place. Yeah, I know, we all inherit other people's code and the other person never writes comments. I don't think this is as big of a problem in

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Proposal - Attributes read/write visibility

2012-07-23 Thread Amaury Bouchard
2012/7/23 André Rømcke andre.rom...@ez.no I think these two proposals can be synced up, what if: public readonly $a; Is shorthand for: public $a { get; protected set; } And when no function is defined, no function overhead is added. Well, this code: public read-only $a;

[PHP-DEV] array_pick()

2012-07-23 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi there, I apologise for my previous email. It was a disorganised mess that didn't really make the case for that function very well. So here's a proper proposal (perhaps too proper?). Introduction I am proposing a function, named array_pick(), which takes a single (array) argument,

[PHP-DEV] array_pick() - resent because email client broke formatting

2012-07-23 Thread Andrew Faulds
(resending because of broken formatting) Hi there, I apologise for my previous email. It was a disorganised mess that didn't really make the case for that function very well. So here's a proper proposal (perhaps too proper?). Introduction I am proposing a function, named

Re: [PHP-DEV] common issue with version_compare()

2012-07-23 Thread Ángel González
On 22/07/12 04:08, Kris Craig wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Andrew Faulds ajf...@googlemail.comwrote: If you think 1.1 =/= 1.01 you're sure using some weird version numbers. Only 1.0.1 would be smaller. Has anyone seen these weird version ordering schemes in practise? On any major

Re: [PHP-DEV] array_pick() - resent because email client broke formatting

2012-07-23 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Andrew, On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: (resending because of broken formatting) Hi there, I apologise for my previous email. It was a disorganised mess that didn't really make the case for that function very well. So here's a proper proposal (perhaps

Re: [PHP-DEV] array_pick() - resent because email client broke formatting

2012-07-23 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
On 23 ביול 2012, at 19:05, Anthony Ferrara wrote: Andrew, On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Andrew Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: (resending because of broken formatting) Hi there, I apologise for my previous email. It was a disorganised mess that didn't really make the case for that

Re: [PHP-DEV] array_pick() - resent because email client broke formatting

2012-07-23 Thread Samuel Giles
Why bloat the core library of functions when you can perform: $randomValue = $array[array_rand($array)]; Am I missing the point? I don't think there is a real need for this personally it's just language bloat. Look at Java (I know it's very different) but it provides a huge amount of built in

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Make try/catch brackets optinal

2012-07-23 Thread Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa
On 23/07/12 06:03, Alex Aulbach wrote: In other words: You want to introduce something, which we are glad not to need anymore. :) Ok. And as I said, it is a proposal so… ;-). Next topic: rescue or finally keywoard? Best regards :-). -- Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa.42/ or

Re: [PHP-DEV] Make try/catch brackets optinal

2012-07-23 Thread Charlie Somerville
rescue is the exact same concept as catch On Jul 24, 2012 3:41 PM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa ivan.ender...@hoa-project.net wrote: On 23/07/12 06:03, Alex Aulbach wrote: In other words: You want to introduce something, which we are glad not to need anymore. :) Ok. And as I said, it is a