Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous functions

2008-02-25 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Whichever one the newly developed features are going into these days. Seems to be 5.3 or 5.4. -Andrei On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Hi! To be clear, my statement was about the closures and not sexier anonymous functions. I agree that we need to do an RFC on this

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4 Bug Summary Report

2008-02-25 Thread internals
PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (624 total including feature requests) ===[*Compile Issues]== 43389 Open configure ignoring --without-cdb flag

[PHP-DEV] PHP.Net Site

2008-02-25 Thread Lokrain
Hello there, I am not sure here is the right place to mention this, but I still think it will be cool, if there is some spell checking before posting news on php.net. There are mistakes like the word 'Addded' - perhaps should be 'Added'. This thing lead me to the idea, of spell checker who logs

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, I mentioned something along those lines as well. And I guess we both come from the side that a) we think the feature as such is useful and b) needs to be implemented in a way that we can use as much of the engine infrastructure as possible and c) not interfere with the way PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Lukas, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 9:41:10 AM, you wrote: On 21.02.2008, at 03:26, Andi Gutmans wrote: a) I think Traits should be able to act as a self-contained behavior which can always be expected to work. For example if I want a Counter behavior I would like that not to

[PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Bug Summary Report

2008-02-25 Thread internals
PHP 6 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (57 total including feature requests) ===[*General Issues]== 26771 Suspended register_tick_funtions crash under threaded webservers

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous functions

2008-02-25 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, my understanding was that we did not like the anon function syntax sugar and could not agree on a feature set for closures upfront and thus decided to disagree and not do anything. Now that the topic came up again it seems that we actually should work on an agreeable featureset in a

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: tiberius

2008-02-25 Thread Tibor Balogh
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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4 Bug Summary Report

2008-02-25 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, internals@lists.php.net wrote: PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Should these still be sent out? -Hannes -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4 Bug Summary Report

2008-02-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, internals@lists.php.net wrote: PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Should these still be sent out? I've just disabled them. regards, Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl |

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Trait aliasing syntax suggestions

2008-02-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Stefan Marr wrote: jvlad schrieb: in other words, why to introduce such a new thing as trait instead of using classes and trait'ing them? I've introduced it as a separate notion from classes to avoid misconception and problems occurring from conflicting properties and

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi, Marcus Boerger schrieb: Trait a { function f() {} } Trait b { function f() {} } class c { uses a, b; function f() {} } Reflection(c): function \0a\0f function a::f function \0b\0f function b::f function ffunction f All nicely callable using array syntax: class d

[PHP-DEV] Re: Traits: Alternative syntax for aliases

2008-02-25 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Michael, Michael Stack schrieb: Apologies for contacting you off list. I would like it if you would consider the following additional alternative syntax for aliases. has foo { without bar, gaa; // exclusions with zaa as zee, faa as fee; // with aliased methods } After you had posted

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: documentation collaboration toolchain

2008-02-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Personally I prefer going with a wiki, because I do not have much affection with CVS for these kinds of documents (actually I do think that the README's should be in CVS, which is why I worked with Hannes on creating the current php.net/reST

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: documentation collaboration toolchain

2008-02-25 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Personally I prefer going with a wiki, because I do not have much affection with CVS for these kinds of documents (actually I do think that the README's should be in

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! The main part of the trait idea is to be able to solve conflicts explicitly. Think this is the major contribution of traits and the things being discussed here right now are not THIS kind of traits anymore. What I still don't understand it's how you can solve these conflicts at all.

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP.Net Site

2008-02-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Lokrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, I am not sure here is the right place to mention this, but I still think it will be cool, if there is some spell checking before posting news on php.net. There are mistakes like the word 'Addded' - perhaps

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: documentation collaboration toolchain

2008-02-25 Thread Stefan Marr
Pierre Joye schrieb: Limiting the RFC to existing php.net's member sound like a bad idea and create CVS accounts only for a RFC does not sound any better. I would rather use the wiki for the complete process. Once a RFC reached a stable status, we can add it to a RFC repository. Would agree

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP.Net Site

2008-02-25 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Lokrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, I am not sure here is the right place to mention this, but I still think it will be cool, if there is some spell checking before posting news on php.net. There are mistakes like the word 'Addded' - perhaps

[PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming

2008-02-25 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi, there is a lot of discussion going on about how traits should actually work in PHP. Currently, one of the main challenges seams to be to agree on a suitable mechanism to avoid breaking traits and there behavior. Eventually, there seams to be a large discomfiture on the excluding of methods

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi, Stanislav Malyshev schrieb: What I still don't understand it's how you can solve these conflicts at all. I.e., suppose you have Counter API and DBConnection API on each of which you have clean() method - for Counter it resets it to zero and for DB it resets authentication details. How it

[PHP-DEV] OpenID, big_int, OpenSSL

2008-02-25 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, OpenID is a system gaining more and more support in the industry so PHP should have better support for it, too. some time ago Wez proposed[1] a patch for OpenSSL exporting some big-number-math and crypto stuff from there. Some people thought that that's no clean solution and it would be

Re: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming

2008-02-25 Thread Richard Quadling
On 25/02/2008, Stefan Marr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there is a lot of discussion going on about how traits should actually work in PHP. Currently, one of the main challenges seams to be to agree on a suitable mechanism to avoid breaking traits and there behavior. Eventually, there

Re: [PHP-DEV] OpenID, big_int, OpenSSL

2008-02-25 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi, On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OpenID is a system gaining more and more support in the industry so PHP should have better support for it, too. some time ago Wez proposed[1] a patch for OpenSSL exporting some big-number-math and crypto

Re: [PHP-DEV] OpenID, big_int, OpenSSL

2008-02-25 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 23:11 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Johannes Schlüter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OpenID is a system gaining more and more support in the industry so PHP should have better support for it, too. some time ago Wez proposed[1] a

Re: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming

2008-02-25 Thread David Zülke
Am 25.02.2008 um 20:33 schrieb Stefan Marr: Hi, there is a lot of discussion going on about how traits should actually work in PHP. Currently, one of the main challenges seams to be to agree on a suitable mechanism to avoid breaking traits and there behavior. Eventually, there seams to be

[PHP-DEV] Re: How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming

2008-02-25 Thread Gregory Beaver
Stefan Marr wrote: snip To get rid of exclude and rename I would like to propose the following: //Example from the RFC with the cross-over conflict to be solved trait A { public function smallTalk() { echo 'a'; } public function bigTalk() { echo 'A'; } } trait B {