Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals read-only (was: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace improvements to be committed very soon - final review)

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Tabini
On 13-Dec-07, at 8:08 AM, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 10:00 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: To to get back to the point of the noise on the lists - it's getting out of hand, and I am afraid that if we don't solve this any time soon, the lists will be useless for any sort of

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Marco Tabini
On 10-Jan-08, at 10:58 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: I know that PHP has so far stayed clear of processes and I am fine with keeping it this way. But I really think that some of these flames should best be taken off list into some work group that provides summaries at semi regular

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

2008-02-01 Thread Marco Tabini
Hey Marcus— On 1-Feb-08, at 3:26 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: * Develop a PECL CLA that can optionally be used for PECL projects. * If necessary, adapt the PHP License, so that it works nicely together with the CLA. IMO (and FWIW), CLAs do not belong in any official php.net project. I have

Re: [PHP-DEV] display_errors = on

2009-01-06 Thread Marco Tabini
On 6-Jan-09, at 11:49 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: I'm ok with doing for 5.3, most people when upgrade rarely look at the INI file especially if the update is done through a distribution's package management system. Not to barge in, but many people won't consider 5.2 - 5.3 a major

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP scalability problem

2009-05-26 Thread Marco Tabini
On 26-May-09, at 11:10 PM, tRace DOliveira wrote: What I am trying to achieve is to have the server do less processing. Like I said PHP is a server side scripting language and each time a request is made a process is spawned and processes are heavy weight as compared to a thread which is

Re: [PHP-DEV] shebang skipping in 5.3.0

2009-09-05 Thread Marco Tabini
It would be really nice if everyone could consider that the other do understand what is being discussed but actually disagree. The question was actually: is it worth the effort? Who is seriously using CGI (not meaning fastcgi) with php these days? On shared hosts, CGI is often the only way to

Re: [PHP-DEV] bug when using foreach with references?

2009-10-21 Thread Marco Tabini
On 2009-10-21, at 10:40 PM, Richard K Miller wrote: I don't follow. Is this really the intended behavior? It seems quite unintuitive that the original array would be modified by *empty* loops. It is intended behaviour. Consider your code; at the end of this loop: $items = array('apple',

Re: [PHP-DEV] require_once

2007-04-24 Thread Marco Tabini
On 24-Apr-07, at 7:00 AM, Antony Dovgal wrote: Yes, of course. But I'm using Linux, not windows. Maybe you're even using a machine that is more powerful than his... Mt. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Quoting again

2012-03-07 Thread Marco Tabini
should i draw you a picture for help? Yes, but please make sure that it is on 24# cream paper. And draw in charcoal, because professionals don't use pencils. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist

2005-08-12 Thread Marco Tabini
On 8/12/05 2:50 PM, David Zülke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a #9 to share, too: Assuming that PHP 6.0 will also have namespaces support (which would be cool), it might make sense to move all internal functions to use namespaces (if they support functions sitting in there - doesn't seem

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist

2005-08-12 Thread Marco Tabini
Hey Ilia, On 8/12/05 3:03 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 to namespaces. As for modifying functions that would require a fair number of function aliases for BC as untold number of scripts will break. That is something we are trying to eliminate in the first place. With

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist

2005-08-13 Thread Marco Tabini
don't care much for them either, but I do think that consistent function naming and parameter ordering is an opportunity worth taking advantage of, that's all. Marco Ilia Marco Tabini wrote: Hey Ilia, On 8/12/05 3:03 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 to namespaces

[PHP-DEV] Patch for bug #34565

2005-09-20 Thread Marco Tabini
Hi-- Could someone with karma check that this patch is ok for bug #34565 and commit it to CVS? The patch is against HEAD -- not sure if a separate commit needs to be made against the 4.x and 5.x branches (and would appreciate some pointers on this topic). Cheers! Marco -- PHP Internals -

[PHP-DEV] Patch for bug #34565

2005-09-20 Thread Marco Tabini
[Resending with patch inline] Hi-- Could someone with karma check that this patch is ok for bug #34565 and commit it to CVS? The patch is against HEAD -- not sure if a separate commit needs to be made against the 4.x and 5.x branches (and would appreciate some pointers on this topic). Cheers!

Re: [PHP-DEV] Next major version must be 7 (Lessons learned from the ECMAScript committee)

2010-03-13 Thread Marco Tabini
Hey Sebastian— On 2010-03-13, at 4:55 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Stefan Marr wrote: Is that wise and well-considered or something the community might regret in the long run? The books in question have not been written by community members (because those know better). I think there are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Named Parameters

2010-04-02 Thread Marco Tabini
On 2010-04-02, at 9:02 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: I think they'd allow to manage complex parameter sets more efficiently than with those $options arrays. But that'd probably require changing the way how parameters are passed, since the stack won't work too good anymore for it. FWIW,

Re: [PHP-DEV] dangerous handling of security bugs

2010-07-10 Thread Marco Tabini
On 2010-07-10, at 7:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: I understand this well Then perhaps you can volunteer to help speed up the release process. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Remove variable function and method calls

2010-07-22 Thread Marco Tabini
On 2010-07-22, at 8:49 PM, Karoly Negyesi wrote: So you do not consider it utterly confusing that No. I know kung-fu. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Bug #24281

2003-06-22 Thread Marco Tabini
I stumbled upon bug #24281 while running a few test on the current HEAD for PHP5--it seems to me that it should be sufficient to change a single line of code to make str_replace() work as expected, but I'm not familiar enough with the internals to know whether my fix is good or not...so, here it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #24281

2003-06-22 Thread Marco Tabini
Take two (this time hopefully clearing the variable before resetting it): Index: string.c === RCS file: /repository/php4/ext/standard/string.c,v retrieving revision 1.391 diff -u -r1.391 string.c --- string.c20 Jun 2003 15:41:43

Re: [PHP-DEV] Double warnings with session_start

2003-06-22 Thread Marco Tabini
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[PHP-DEV] var_dump_html()

2003-07-03 Thread Marco Tabini
Tabini President Marco Tabini Associates, Inc. 28 Bombay Avenue Toronto, ON M3H 1B7 Canada Phone: (416) 630-6202 Fax: (416) 630-5057 Web: http://www.tabini.ca Index: basic_functions.c === RCS file: /repository/php-src/ext/standard

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: var_dump_html()

2003-07-03 Thread Marco Tabini
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 13:43, Bjrn Schotte wrote: * Marco Tabini wrote: (a) Not everybody does it that way That's no argument. Well, how can I argue with this? g (b) Not everybody *can do it* that way--think Windows users. Cygwin exists and I'm sure there's a bunch of freeware

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: var_dump_html()

2003-07-03 Thread Marco Tabini
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 13:49, Bjrn Schotte wrote: * Marco Tabini wrote: So, your position is that a developer should bend to the technology. No. My position is that a developer should evolve and learn that there are some more professional ways than just dumping debug data to the browser

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: var_dump_html()

2003-07-03 Thread Marco Tabini
the list with nonsense. And that's all I have to say about that. :) Mt. -- Marco Tabini President Marco Tabini Associates, Inc. 28 Bombay Avenue Toronto, ON M3H 1B7 Canada Phone: (416) 630-6202 Fax: (416) 630-5057 Web: http://www.tabini.ca -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Hi Andi, Christian-- From a logical standpoint, I think this could be very confusing. To me, for one, square brackets imply reference, not assignment. Taking something that means take something out of the array and now using it to mean put something in the array makes the language a bit less

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On November 5, 2003 10:34 am, Christian Schneider wrote: PHP is a mix of C, Perl and other styles anyway, why deny it? It's strength is that it's a pragmatic and simple language but that doesn't mean that nothing should be changed

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
George Schlossnagle wrote: On Nov 5, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Marco Tabini wrote: But isn't there a big difference between an assignment and a reference? I, for one, think that language constructs should be as univocal as possible in order to minimize confusion, lest we end up having to read

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Christian Schneider wrote: Marco Tabini wrote: $a = [[1,2,3],[1=[1,3,2,2], a=[[1,2,3,4],4,[1,2]]]; $a = array(array(1,2,3),array(1=array(1,3,2,2), a=array(array(1,2,3,4),4,array(1,2))); Besides my previous points, something even more abominable: $a = [1,2,$b[11]]; Is that confusing enough

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote: On 05 November 2003 17:06, Marco Tabini contributed these pearls of wisdom: Christian Schneider wrote: Marco Tabini wrote: $a = [[1,2,3],[1=[1,3,2,2], a=[[1,2,3,4],4,[1,2]]]; $a = array(array(1,2,3),array(1=array(1,3,2,2), a=array(array(1,2,3,4),4,array(1,2

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Romans Malinovskis wrote: Think backwards.. Will you be able to convince any perl/python/javascript developer to use array(), list(), range() structs? I really don't think this needs to be a concern. You can't be everything to all people. Mt. r $a = [1,2,$b[11]]; Is that confusing enough for

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
Michael Walter wrote: $a = [1,2,$b[11]]; Is that confusing enough for you? ;-) What's confusing about it? The fact that $b[11] references an item of an array, while [1,2,$b[11]] assigns values to the array $a. The fact that you (and, probably, most of us) can't tell right off the bat is a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax

2003-11-05 Thread Marco Tabini
George Schlossnagle wrote: On Nov 5, 2003, at 1:29 PM, Marco Tabini wrote: $a = [1,2,$b[11]] is semantically inconsistent. How so? Is I think I've already explained why. foo(array(1,2)); semantically inconsistent? On one hand () is used with a language construct (array()), whereas

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1

2003-11-11 Thread Marco Tabini
Sorry to interject, but shouldn't the feature set be frozen before moving to a release candidate? This stage should mean to people that they can start building software on the new system because all the features are fixed and are not going to change, even though the system may still have bugs

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: marcot

2004-01-09 Thread Marco Tabini
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Assigning to $this

2004-02-04 Thread Marco Tabini
Zeev Suraski wrote: Wez, You're going to see Zeev on the PHP Cruise and me in Manchester at PawsCon :) Yeah, but what about both of you *together*? :-) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php