Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, Von: Jeff Hardy [mailto:[email protected]] > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Markus Schaber > wrote: > > Hmm, maybe we could put the host/embedder info I suggested in the other > mail there. > > Yeah, and things like which which CLR version (3.5, 4.0), implementation > (MS, Mono), subs

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Cesar Mello
Thank you so much!! Best regards! Mello On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Cesar Mello wrote: > > But if I install the MSI instead, how can I reference the standard > library > > that is installed with IronPython? Where should I get the standar

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Cesar Mello wrote: > But if I install the MSI instead, how can I reference the standard library > that is installed with IronPython? Where should I get the standard library > path? I tried to get the path from Assembly.GetAssembly(typeof(Python)), but > the GAC pat

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Cesar Mello
Thanks! I am evaluating both options. Installing our own version including the standard library copied from IronPython (./Lib, ./DLLs) in our application directory seem to work great! But if I install the MSI instead, how can I reference the standard library that is installed with IronPython? Wh

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Eric Snow wrote: >> A plain dict would be certainly be easier to implement, just using the >> builtin.  Exposing an immutable dict type in CPython could open a can >> of worms, but if it makes sense we could cons

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Eric Snow wrote: > A plain dict would be certainly be easier to implement, just using the > builtin.  Exposing an immutable dict type in CPython could open a can > of worms, but if it makes sense we could consider it. If it's going to be harder for CPython, then I

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Eric Snow wrote: >> Good to know.  Is your preference for a named tuple instead of a >> normal class?  I'd rather not expose sys.implementation as a sequence >> type, but mostly I want to end up with something tha

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Cesar Mello wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed IronRuby has merge modules available. Would this be the > recommended way to redistribute IronPython? > > Now I need to embed IronPython in our product's installer. (This is still a > prototype). Any advices about this? Prob

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Hmm, maybe we could put the host/embedder info I suggested in the other mail > there. Yeah, and things like which which CLR version (3.5, 4.0), implementation (MS, Mono), subset (Silverlight, MonoTouch, MonoDroid), what host it's running un

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Eric Snow wrote: >> I'd strongly prefer the named-tuple approach, like version_info. The >> metadata attribute being a dict is fine (although the PEP doesn't >> actually call that out in "Required Values" section; I had to search >> to find out if it was actually a

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > The > metadata attribute being a dict is fine (although the PEP doesn't > actually call that out in "Required Values" section; I had to search > to find out if it was actually a dict). Thanks for pointing that out. I had certainly intended on s

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Hi, Jeff, > >> Von: Jeff Hardy >> > Any feedback would be very helpful, particularly with regard to the >> > decision on the type of sys.implementation and the constraints on >> > sys.implementation.version.  Thanks. >> >> I'd strongly prefer

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Eric Snow > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm looking for feedback on PEP 421: "Adding sys.implementation".  The >> idea came up in 2009 and garnered positive feedback, but didn't go >> anywhere.  I've revived it and am h

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Cesar Mello
A colleague of mine also suggested implementing a stand-alone redistributable, to embed in our product's bootstrapper. That seems to be an easier trend in our installers. What do you think? Thanks a lot for the attention. Best regards Mello On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Cesar Mello wrote: >

[Ironpython-users] IronPython Merge Modules for Windows

2012-05-07 Thread Cesar Mello
Hi, I've noticed IronRuby has merge modules available. Would this be the recommended way to redistribute IronPython? Now I need to embed IronPython in our product's installer. (This is still a prototype). Any advices about this? Probably that's an effort that can be shared, so instead of developi

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, > Von: Jeff Hardy > > Any feedback would be very helpful, particularly with regard to the > > decision on the type of sys.implementation and the constraints on > > sys.implementation.version. Thanks. > > I'd strongly prefer the named-tuple approach, like version_info. The > metadata at

Re: [Ironpython-users] feedback on PEP 421

2012-05-07 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Eric, > Von Eric Snow > I'm looking for feedback on PEP 421: "Adding sys.implementation". The > idea came up in 2009 and garnered positive feedback, but didn't go > anywhere. I've revived it and am hoping to get it worked out in time for > Python 3.3. > > Any feedback would be very helpful

[Ironpython-users] IronPython, Daily Digest 5/6/2012

2012-05-07 Thread no_reply
Hi ironpython, Here's your Daily Digest of new issues for project "IronPython". In today's digest:ISSUES 1. [New comment] Duplicate key in dict -- ISSUES 1. [New comment] Duplicate key in dict http://ironpython.codeplex.com/workitem/32527 User Keith