Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Markus Meyer
Bruno, thanks for your answers. Am 17.02.2010 00:53, schrieb Bruno Lowagie: The license change was announced on different occasions, at least 6 months before the actual change. Still I think, a prominent news item on the website or a prominent README_LICENSE_CHANGE.TXT in the tarballs

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Markus Meyer
Am 17.02.2010 01:16, schrieb Mark Storer: Efforts were made to make this change more prominent, though those efforts may have fallen short (license.txt? whoops). In particular, the move from com.lowagie to com.itextpdf coincided with the license change, as did a jump in version number (from

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Markus Meyer wrote: When I asked for the email address of Bruno I got the answer that I should contact a person named Andrew to reach Bruno (!?!?). I contacted Andrew but he replied Bruno wouldn't have time to do it. Although both Mark and Andrew were very friendly and helpful, the whole

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Markus Meyer
Am 17.02.2010 01:31, schrieb mister bean: iText PDF AGPL Java-PDF library If you go to lowagie.com and click on iText Home Page, you see the same thing. For most users, having the AGPL aspect highlighted and bold as the first line of text on the project's home page is pretty clear. Nothing

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Markus Meyer
Bruno, Am 17.02.2010 10:25, schrieb Bruno Lowagie: You were asked to contact Andrew because I was at the film festival in Ghent at that time (October 6-17): I only went online to check my mail, giving priority to Andrew's mail. His answer was correct: I don't have the time to accept

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Markus Meyer wrote: Changing the license from MPL/LGPL to AGPL is a big change for the user. It needs direct response from any project, be it open or closed source. For example no open source project which currently uses iText 2.1.7 will be able to use iText 5.0.0 without completely

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Markus Meyer wrote: I did miss the license change, then again, I would never have envisioned that the iText project even would consider such a change. Our mails crossed each other. People who were following the iText project knew the circumstances that led to the license change.

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-17 Thread Markus Meyer
Am 17.02.2010 11:19, schrieb Bruno Lowagie: That's not true. The Free Software Foundation has been discouraging the use of the LGPL a long time ago: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html The AGPL is compatible with GPLv3 and other AGPL libraries. The LGPL for iText was

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Brett Neumeier
I saw this email some time ago (converted to bottom-posting to provide better context): On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Paulo Soares psoa...@glintt.com wrote: From: Anders Thomsen [mailto:j...@andersthomsen.dk] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:41 PM I'm a bit confused about with license

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread 1T3XT info
Brett Neumeier wrote: I am not sure that this statement is accurate. It is. You can't write closed source software on top of an AGPL software. If you use iText in a web application, your application is linked with iText; therefore your code should also be AGPL. See for instance the FAQ at

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread 1T3XT info
Brett Neumeier wrote: If I'm wrong about what the AGPL means, I hope someone will clarify exactly what I'm missing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License The GNU AGPL is similar to the GNU General Public License, except that it additionally covers the use of the software

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Brett Neumeier
Hello 1T3XT BVBA! Thanks for your quick reply. I don't think I expressed my question clearly, though; so I'll try again. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, 1T3XT info i...@1t3xt.info wrote: Brett Neumeier wrote: It is. You can't write closed source software on top of an AGPL software. If you

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Markus Meyer
Am 16.02.2010 20:04, schrieb Brett Neumeier: Yes, absolutely!! My question, in my previous email and in this one, is: what is the text in the AGPL that causes it to operate in the way that you assert that it does? Moreover, there are some more points to consider. First, it seems that the

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Markus Meyer wrote: Moreover, there are some more points to consider. First, it seems that the license switch to AGPL (i.e. a viral license) was made very silent. The license change was announced on different occasions, at least 6 months before the actual change. Second, I had tried to

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Storer
First, it seems that the license switch to AGPL (i.e. a viral license) was made very silent. I disagree. On the mailing list, while it wasn't trumpets and marching bands, It Was Discussed. At some length IIRC. But that's my perspective on the change. Yours (just grab the jar from time to

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread mister bean
Markus: Thanks for your note. To respond: 1) The change in license was posted on this list. In fact, several messages warned of its upcoming change. And the license change has been discussed several times since it was made in December. If you go to the 1t3xt.com website, where iText has been

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-02-16 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Brett Neumeier wrote: A couple of points. First, there is certainly some application code that is linked with iText, but that is not necessarily the entire application system. Suppose that you use a proprietary application server, then that application server doesn't count as covered work.

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-01-15 Thread Tobias van Treeck
Or you can stick with the old Version 2.1.7 since this one still has the old license... ToM 2010/1/14 Anders Thomsen j...@andersthomsen.dk: I'm a bit confused about with license change to AGPL. Is a commercial company allowed to, while keeping its own software closed: 1) Use the IText

[iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-01-14 Thread Anders Thomsen
I'm a bit confused about with license change to AGPL. Is a commercial company allowed to, while keeping its own software closed: 1) Use the IText library within the company in internally developed applications ( this should be no problem, right? ). 2) Use the IText library on a company website

Re: [iText-questions] Licensing questions

2010-01-14 Thread Paulo Soares
, January 14, 2010 1:41 PM To: itext-questions@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [iText-questions] Licensing questions I'm a bit confused about with license change to AGPL. Is a commercial company allowed to, while keeping its own software closed: 1) Use the IText library within the company

RE: [iText-questions] licensing questions

2004-01-20 Thread Paulo Soares
Title: RE: [iText-questions] licensing questions Here's the text that comes with the AFM files: This file and the 14 PostScript(R) AFM files it accompanies may be used, copied, and distributed for any purpose and without charge, with or without modification, provided that all copyright

RE: [iText-questions] licensing questions

2004-01-20 Thread Paulo Soares
Title: RE: [iText-questions] licensing questions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruno Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 18:44 To: Derrick Corda Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [iText-questions] licensing questions 3

[iText-questions] licensing questions

2004-01-19 Thread Derrick Corda
My company is planning to use iText in our product. (By the way, thanks for all the GREAT WORK on this product). I have several questions about licensing and the source. We had initially planned to use the library as is, but found that for our particular situation we needed to make one small

Re: [iText-questions] licensing questions

2004-01-19 Thread Bruno
Quoting Derrick Corda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. While your site and the source indicate that you can choose either the MPL or LGPL or combination MPL/LGPL license, an item in the newsgroup from Bruno Lowagie dated 15 May 2003 indicates that the source can not be licensed under the LGPL only

Re: [iText-questions] licensing questions

2004-01-19 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
At 7:43 PM +0100 1/19/04, Bruno wrote: 2. There are several files with the extension .afm where the source is copyrighted by Adobe. These files have no indication that Adobe has put this source under LGPL or MPL or put it in the public domain. Is there somewhere on Adobe’s site where I can