[The Java Posse] Re: #216 - Interface Inference

2008-11-11 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
There was no date on the article but it looked like it was from the 1990s. Given the way that Sun has been churning through its Java developers recently, the number of people left from that era could probably be counted on one hand. (While I'm writing this, I see that the Google Ads on the

[The Java Posse] Re: Sun to Distribute MSN Toolbar with Java

2008-11-11 Thread Joe Data
On Nov 11, 2:23 am, Joshua Marinacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The addons to not increase the download size unless you choose the   extra install. With the kernel the minimum install is greatly reduced   from the previous JRE installs. - Josh, on the go The problem is that it is opt-out -

[The Java Posse] Re: Fwd: [The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-11 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
actually my point was that you can only get the generic type information in the cases where it is there in compile time but, for instance, imagine that you had this: public class GenericTestE { private ListE list = new ArrayListE(); } even if you create an instance of GenericTest with

[The Java Posse] Re: Tor: Awesome. (Python4nb)

2008-11-11 Thread Tor Norbye
On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Switched to the nightly so I have something to play with on the loong flight to San Fransisco. All the whitespace issues are cleared up, and there's a lot more error reporting and smart insertion to boot. No showstopper bugs

[The Java Posse] SpringSource acquires G2One (Groovy / Grails)

2008-11-11 Thread Alexander Snaps
From http://www.springsource.com/g2one On November 11, 2008, SpringSource announced that it acquired G2One Inc., the company behind the popular Groovy and Grails technologies. With the acquisition of G2One, SpringSource will now offer global enterprise support offerings for developers and IT

[The Java Posse] Re: Fwd: [The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-11 Thread Tasos Zervos
Can you please give an example with some bits of code? I'm not sure what scenario you are trying to solve (or implying you can't solve). What are you going to use a Map?,? instance field for? (Would this be a Generics way of initialise a field?) On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, Marcelo Fukushima [EMAIL

[The Java Posse] Java clarification required, Pointers vs References

2008-11-11 Thread Kram
Does Java have pointers? I have been trying to get a definitive answer using Google and half the sites say that Java has Pointers the other half say no. I have found on the Sun website that Java does not have Pointers. Which really answers my question, but if references can be thought of in

[The Java Posse] Re: Java clarification required, Pointers vs References

2008-11-11 Thread Casper Bang
Yes, Java has pointers. But it has no support for pointer arithmetics and you cannot implement a swap method. Java always passes a copy (reference) to a pointer. /Casper On Nov 12, 12:15 am, Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Java have pointers? I have been trying to get a definitive answer

[The Java Posse] Re: Java clarification required, Pointers vs References

2008-11-11 Thread Casper Bang
That didn't come out right. lol Java always passes a copy of the pointer/reference, but does so by value. So if you cross a stack frame boundary (say call into a method) there will now be two distinct references to the thing. That's why a swap won't work, you may swap your second reference but

[The Java Posse] Re: Java clarification required, Pointers vs References

2008-11-11 Thread Kram
Ok, so in C a pointer just points to a memory location, if whatever is at that locations moves you get into trouble. But with Java, a reference points to an object which has its own memory address that may change and the reference wont be affected? Also, Weiqi Gao says that Java has no pointers

[The Java Posse] What happened to the consumer JRE ?

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Neale
Wasn't it supposed to provide a flash like plug in installation experience? Or is it not ready yet (and its not update 10? ). Cause the flash like experience seems to be worlds away from the MSN toolbar experience for users (for most users, who are windows, on most browsers, which is IE, Java

[The Java Posse] Re: Java clarification required, Pointers vs References

2008-11-11 Thread Kram
Ok no problem, so what about the other thing I said, am I on the right track? On Nov 12, 1:11 pm, Weiqi Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kram wrote: Ok, so in C a pointer just points to a memory location, if whatever is at that locations moves you get into trouble. But with Java, a reference

[The Java Posse] UI design ideas ..

2008-11-11 Thread ranjith
What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to change based on the perspective? The perspective, however, determines the workflow that the application offers. So, the perspectives also should get appropriate representation. Currently I am thinking of something like below. Suppose

[The Java Posse] Re: UI design ideas ..

2008-11-11 Thread Peter Becker
You mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_(computing) ? See also: https://substance-flamingo.dev.java.net/see.html Peter On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ranjith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to change based on the

[The Java Posse] Re: What happened to the consumer JRE ?

2008-11-11 Thread Joshua Marinacci
JavaSE 6 update 10 is the Consumer JRE On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Michael Neale wrote: Wasn't it supposed to provide a flash like plug in installation experience? Or is it not ready yet (and its not update 10? ). Cause the flash like experience seems to be worlds away from the MSN

[The Java Posse] Re: UI design ideas ..

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Neale
I thought that idea was not terribly popular any more - Eclipse kinda does it, and its sometimes held up as a bad example - always surprising users by showing/hiding things. On Nov 12, 3:50 pm, ranjith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to

[The Java Posse] Re: What happened to the consumer JRE ?

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Neale
Wow, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Very disappointing (in the toolbar move). On Nov 12, 5:04 pm, Joshua Marinacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JavaSE 6 update 10 is the Consumer JRE On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Michael Neale wrote: Wasn't it supposed to provide a flash