[JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All, I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below. Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in December 2017) with Windows 10 Universal apps. Here are some examples: list of 2 items 1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

It is in your settings centre. Once in there, go to Speech and Sounds Schemes, pressing right arrow to open it. Arrow down to modify schemes... and press the spacebar. In the resulting dialog box, tab to the edit sound scheme button and press the spacebar. In the resulting dialog box,

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hi JM, find and expand, speech and sounds schemes. down arrow to and activate modify schemes. Tab to, Edit scheme, & press the spacebar. control+tab to html tab. tab and down arrow to on click speak. tab and down arrow to ignore. tab to and activate ok. Now you have to save this modified scheme.

[JAWS-Users] protective view in MS office 2013

I know how to turn off protective view Mode in MS 2013 thanks to knowledgeable folks here. However, I would like to know how to protect a document in MS office 2013 because I have a personal journal I want to keep private. Thansk. -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and

Re: [JAWS-Users] This webpage wants to run the following add-on: 'Apple' from 'Apple Inc

Thanks, I did a search and did not locate that. I found microsoft notes on how to remove or prevent it and thay did not work. -Original Message- From: JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] This webpage wants to

Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome browser blocking some web sites

Hi! If you press tab, there is a choice to accept the web site and have it come up in Chrome. It is usually called: Allow. Just press enter on Allow, and the web site will come up in Chrome! I have had some web sites say that as well. That is all you do. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Yes Jim, they sure do. Well, this has been a thing since at least 2016. I found the archived thread about this, probably from this list. I have turned off the "indicate element attributes" checkbox and this has done the trick. But this isn't an entirely satisfying solution, since now I'll be

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

I recall a response from FS that the "clickable" ghost issue is a known item and they're working on a fix.  I've no further information, though.  When I switched to Firefox as my default browser about 6 months ago when IE insisted on opening pdf's in the browser, the everpresent clickable

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Well, I'm looking in speech/sound schemes, and I can find every "attribute" I can think of, except this one. "draggable", "droppable", but no "clickable". -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: January 10,

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Agree. The very few times where there's an element that can be clicked through for me at least doesn't warrant this feature to be enabled. Besides, you can more or less tell if and when you can click on something to bring up a dialog on the page. -Original Message- From:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

its not useful as far as i am concerned. both window eyes and n v d a does the same thing. and so far none of these so called clickables click on anything. if i could turn this off for all my screen readers i would do it. its totally useless to me. -Original Message- From: JM Casey

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hm. Yes. Do you know why JAWS does this when it isn't clickable? It even says this for blank lines! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones Sent: January 10, 2018 7:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

I would rather hear that "clickable," for the reasons you mentioned. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey Cristobal. Yes, I know I can disable it, but having JAWS detect these elements is potentially useful. It just seems like it's doing it wrong, and I'd like to know why that is. I know I'm not the only one; does everyone else just turn the whole thing off, or live with it? -Original

Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Disable the detect elements setting in your Jaws settings. Going off of memory so the exact terminology may be off, but it's easy to find. I'm sure someone else will provide step by step instructions if needed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

[JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey everyone. I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't relevant to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to read. So, sorry for bringing it up again. But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there often *is* "clickable" text on a

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came late in the rollout. Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66 wrote: check your jaws version again. this option is not available with version 18.0 only with version 2018. they

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

thank you, and it's nice to know there's a person on here that doesn't see the tech angle for everything, like me, thanks again -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free

Re: [JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out of Typing Field

Gratifying. Thanks for posting the result. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fuzzmom Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

Hi, I think what he is asking is if there are any free email services other than gmail and yahoo. I believe there is something called gmx, but have not used it in a while. There is also something called poste.de, but have not looked at it so don’’t really know. Doing a search for free email

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

check your jaws version again. this option is not available with version 18.0 only with version 2018. they are not the same version. you do not open the files with adobe. you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them to use the Recognize with JAWS option. but only with

Re: [JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out of Typing Field

Sigh of relief! Thank you. I just managed to change the forms mode setting. I had to wait till I was trying to post, then do the insert thing. Otherwise the setting for autoforms wasn't available. Nomore posting/refreshing issue, yay! Thanks! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out of Typing Field

Wow that helps a lot. I've had the loading twice thing, too. And yes, it'll just dump me into forms mode, or kick me out of it just as fast. Very unpredictable. I'll change that setting and see if that helps! Thanks! Very clear, btw. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

This weekend it took me ten minutes to figure out an audio captcha. I don't do background noise well either. Questions are good: is grass green? What is 2 plus 2? Simple stuff that requires a human answer. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents. - Original Message - From: "net bat66" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

That would work but I have a small digital recorder on my desk and I record the audio challenge and then play it back, either would work Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of el...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out of Typing Field

A few thoughts. First, with JAWS, some webpages act as if they load twice. I will click on a link and JAWS will start speaking the next page. I assume all is well and start navigating, typing, etc. However, it turns out JAWS hasn't processed the page yet, and so after a pause (which I don't

Re: [JAWS-Users] Any tips on screen-sharing with sighted users?

Thanks Jason. That doc doesn't give much info about braille viewer, or what the sighted person actually sees. Is it a highlighted line? Is it simulated braille? I do not currently have a braille display, though I've used one with JAWS in the past. Unfortunately the screen-sharing software only

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Yeah, that works, and I've tried this, too. I have difficulty hearing through background noise sometimes and the audio captshas are designed to be, well, noisy. Your solution is one I kind of like, but I don't think a lot of people in the world would know the answer to that question. It's

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

My audio solution has become this. Open a word document and then listen to the audio and type what I hear. Being a tiny bit older than some on the list, I just try for 3 or 4 numbers or letters at a time. Then I have it repeated until I have the solution entered in Word. Then I copy and paste the

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Text that is embedded in an image, such as a stop sign, would not be read. Andy - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS

[JAWS-Users] Page Refreshing Kicking Me out of Typing Field

Hi. New to the list, to Jaws and to computers. How do you stop a page from refreshing when you are typing/ I'm on afew forums and All of them seem to auto refresh! I have done the insert, typed "refresh" selected "off' and then hit ok. I have also shut down and restarted the computer afew ties

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

none of this is needed with jaws 2018. its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

they said jaws 2018. no, note pad is not needed to read the text. i just for got to delete the note pad reference when i was editing what i was going to say. grin but you do need to use note pad if you want to save the ocr text, by useing copy and paste to copy the text into note pad. ***

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the "Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to "all files" to see any PDF document. I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to recognize a PDF file directly from a

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are: Insert+Spacebar Release to hear a click sound Press the letter O release Press the letter D release You should hear a response that it is working I recall that this was

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

you have to wait. like a 200 page pdf file can take over 1 minute to process. and jaws will make a tone while you are waiting until it has finished. -Original Message- From: Vicki W. Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

easy. open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them. open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds for it to process the text. do not press the escape key or it will close. then you can view the text of the pdf file. the acuracy of the text depends on

Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation)

Thanks Jason. All this is quite interesting. Also, thanks for the tip about Braille Viewer. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason White Sent: January 9, 2018 8:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other window opens. The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a difference? Vicki - Original Message - From: "Reed" To: Sent:

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

Not sure how to answer. If your friend is asking about other email servers, I suspect it is based on their web interface. Otherwise, the question might apply to the email client, perhaps? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "t"

[JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

I know that jaws works on gmail and yahoo email, but are there other free email services that work with jaws? I have a blind friend that’s not on the list that asked me this question For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Hi Vicki, After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od" (without the quotes). This invokes the OCR document scan. It will take a bit of time for the scan, depending on the size of your document. The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer. If you wanted to, once

Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!.

Hey randy. They did not put up the menu in any kind of text format. They only scanned an image of their print menu. A lot of restaurants do this unfortunately. Your best bet is to use oCR. I did the JAWS OCR thing on the window and got reasonable results, though I only glanced at it (I'm very far

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Yes, true. I almost never successfully solved an audio one. They do seem to be getting clearer though. I just registered to IMDB to post film reviews and such and that was my test of wibvism. Nope, could not solve image, much to my disappointment. However, two tries and I got the audio one

Re: [JAWS-Users] This webpage wants to run the following add-on: 'Apple' from 'Apple Inc

A quick search on the web reveals that it has something to do with Quicktime, which is an Apple video format. I guess your newspaper wants to display multimedia content. Doesn't sound like there's anything wrong... -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

[JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 2018 to read them? Thanks. Vicki For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Chrome browser blocking some web sites

I am using W10, latest jaws and chrome browser and some web sites chrome will not let me open some web sites. I am not using exact words but chrome tells me that the web site is not safe but IE 11 will open the web site with no problems. Is it possible for this feature in chrome to be turned off