Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-16 Thread Jason Dillon
this is great, this is today in cvs, unless a certain someone removed this as well. =P The problem is a painful russian doll structure. 3- however there are 3 static directories deploy/first, deploy/second, deploy/third, actually i could call them deploy/deploy1, deploy/deploy2/deploy3...

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-16 Thread Jason Dillon
? -Original Message- From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:53 PM To: Bill Burke Cc: marc fleury; Scott M Stark; Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal A directory based short-term solution (which does

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-14 Thread Jason Dillon
I don't think so. Implement one or the other but supporting both is going to be a nightmare from a maintenance standpoint. Imagine a user using the numbered order in a directory configuration. *shiver* So, my point was to fix the system such that neither is needed for deployment to function

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|This can be done today simply by including the list of 3 or whatever |directories in the URLDeploymentScanner. Jason just needs to sort each |directory separately when he puts the sorting back in. right, let's just do that, it is simple and will cover 99% cases. we need to 1- document the

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc |fleury |Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:19 AM |To: David Jencks |Cc: Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal | | ||This can be done today

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
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RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|Why doesn't depends handle this? because marcf | |--jason | | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Peter Antman
On 13 Mar, marc fleury wrote: [...] The problem is a painful russian doll structure. 3- however there are 3 static directories deploy/first, deploy/second, deploy/third, actually i could call them deploy/deploy1, deploy/deploy2/deploy3... and allow for arbitrary numbers but we would

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Scott M Stark
- Original Message - From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:42 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal ok, so i

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network will start before /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80sendmail |because 10 commes before 80. whatever, stuff in rc2 is started before stuff in rc3 also the S10network before the S80sendmail is a convention that is actually great, it is an explicit ordering of deployments and is

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Scott M Stark
. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|This is using Ant as the deployment language. If the sar depends on the |war because it is adapting a legacy protocol to soap for example, you |would then need to repackage the above to: | |jar/ |---war/ |--sar |--jar2 that is correct, | |I would rather see an ear as the standalone

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott |M Stark |Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:00 AM |To: Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal | | |Or equivalently, mirror the deploy1, deploy2

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Christian Riege
Hi, On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:47, marc fleury wrote: |/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network will start before /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80sendmail |because 10 commes before 80. whatever, stuff in rc2 is started before stuff in rc3 this is not correct when looked upon from the UNIX perspective. My system

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Bill Burke
ordering you need, no? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:00 AM To: Scott M Stark; Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:50 PM To: Bill Burke; Scott M Stark; Jboss-Development @ Lists . Sourceforge . Net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal |directory solution

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread marc fleury
|I like this I'll ask the class. How many other software |projects have the |actual developers talking to the user base? you moron, our user base of today will spawn our developers of tomorrow. it is our best recruitment ground. you should see the class, the jboss boot-camp for developers,

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Scott M Stark
. Sourceforge . Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal directory solution is better and easier to maintain IMHO than the SXX stuff. My gut feeling tells me that with the SXX solution you'll constantly be changing filenames and will create

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-13 Thread Scott M Stark
: JBoss Dev list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal Hi, On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:47, marc fleury wrote: |/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network will start before /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80sendmail |because 10 commes before 80. whatever

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread Scott M Stark
Having to nest jars in a particular manner to achieve the correct deployment ordering certainly is not simple. Here your talking about the static deployment directories while all of the current issues are with self-contained deployment units of j2ee components and services. We need a simple

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread David Jencks
This can be done today simply by including the list of 3 or whatever directories in the URLDeploymentScanner. Jason just needs to sort each directory separately when he puts the sorting back in. david jencks On 2002.03.12 21:56:01 -0500 marc fleury wrote: ok, it is 3 am in london and i drank

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread David Jencks
Are you sure it is that hard to understand or do? Usually the default order of peer subpackages works fine: if you want something else you can use nesting. I think that if we can convert jndi dependencies into mbean dependencies a lot of problems will go away without any more deployment

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread Scott M Stark
. Likewise, if a service is using an ejb or servlet how is this specified? - Original Message - From: David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal Are you sure it is that hard to understand or do

Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread Jason Dillon
deploy/first/ deploy/second/ deploy/third/ a la 'init.d/rc1-2-3' Not such a hot idea. There was talk about this a while ago What is the real issue here? Why doesn't the depends attribute handle it? a bit more complex to code but would be worth it... Does not seem like any code

RE: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal

2002-03-12 Thread marc fleury
Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott |M Stark |Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:33 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ordering proposal | | | |Ordering should not be a function of the packaging. I should |be able to create an ear with a flat