Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Pedro Melo
Hi, On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is the proper place to discuss this, but I assume that all the client developers subscrive to jdev. So Cisco acquired Jabber Inc, and with it I assume the Jabber trademark. What happens now to the Jabber

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2008-09-23 Thread Bishop, Michael W. CONTR J9C880
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Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Pedro Melo wrote: Hi, On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is the proper place to discuss this, but I assume that all the client developers subscrive to jdev. So Cisco acquired Jabber Inc, and with it I assume the Jabber trademark. What happens

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/9/19 Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I don't know if this is the proper place to discuss this, but I assume that all the client developers subscrive to jdev. So Cisco acquired Jabber Inc, and with it I assume the Jabber trademark. What happens now to the Jabber trademark? AFAIK

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Lastwebpage
maybe Coccinella goes the correct way and other clients should follow? I would be not surprised if some users think now hmmh, a Jabber Client, it's for Cisco Networks/Hardware? or Jabber incoffer a client, there are no prize on this site, but is this client a replaement for it? or It's an own

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2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Lastwebpage wrote: maybe Coccinella goes the correct way and other clients should follow? I would be not surprised if some users think now hmmh, a Jabber Client, it's for Cisco Networks/Hardware? or Jabber incoffer a client, there are no prize on this site, but is this client a replaement

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Sebastiaan Deckers
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Lastwebpage wrote: maybe Coccinella goes the correct way and other clients should follow? I would be not surprised if some users think now hmmh, a Jabber Client, it's for Cisco Networks/Hardware? or Jabber

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Sebastiaan Deckers wrote: Just as we went through the name change JSF - XSF, would it be a good idea to consider the domain change jabber.org http://jabber.org - xmpp.org http://xmpp.org? Maybe. Right now, xmpp.org is just about the protocols. I'm not really quite sure what the purpose of

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/9/23 Sebastiaan Deckers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip Just as we went through the name change JSF - XSF, would it be a good idea to consider the domain change jabber.org - xmpp.org? /me would prefer jabber.org - instantmessaging.im or im.im Note: instant messaging == XMPP, legacy messaging ==

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/9/23 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip The term Jabber has always meant many things (an open-source server, a company, a protocol, etc.) and we've worked to disambiguate those meanings over time (jabberd, Jabber Inc., XMPP). If Jabber Inc. goes away, then one of the sources of

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Geof
As one of the few marketing folks here on this list, I'll interject my 2 cents which I very rarely do, and say based on the official press release by Cisco corporateI would not put a bet on In the end, perhaps Jabber will mean nothing at all. in the future... Note not once are the characters

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Geof wrote: Note not once are the characters XMPP typed together in the release of Jabber, Inc. acquisition..do you think that was by design, or by accident? Doug Dennerline's blog post talks about extensible presence and messaging:

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread naw
El Martes 23 Septiembre 2008, Peter Saint-Andre escribió: Geof wrote: Note not once are the characters XMPP typed together in the release of Jabber, Inc. acquisition..do you think that was by design, or by accident? Doug Dennerline's blog post talks about extensible presence and

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
naw wrote: To me, it seems that Cisco is trying to confuse people and make them think that Cisco is the owner of the protocol/IM system/comunity. Fortunately, you are wrong. /psa ___ JDev mailing list FAQ:

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Geof
a wise old man once told me, Geof, right or WRONG, sometimes perception becomes reality. Do you not think Bill Gates and company would like to go back in time and set the record straight on somethings that have morphed from perception into reality? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Peter

Re: [jdev] Jabber Trademark

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Geof wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: naw wrote: To me, it seems that Cisco is trying to confuse people and make them think that Cisco is the owner of the protocol/IM system/comunity.