Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-06-05 Thread Hei Virk
Hi everybody, -- Sorry the delay in my answer First, I made slides (a PDF) about the embed method and how its algorithm works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8eKvcE21R9RMkNPYlZiOTEwZnM/view I don't know if the Smalltalk community or other communities have this kind of method (embed) but I

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-27 Thread Craig Russell
HI Heikki, > On May 20, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Hei Virk wrote: > > Hi everybody: > > I will comment later more. > > -I am just going to keep a presentation about the topic in my university > here in Finland for theorists and I am making those slides at a moment.. > > One

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-27 Thread Tilmann
Hi Heikki, I found something in the old ODMG 3.0 standard: 6.3.1.2 Object Deletion In the Smalltalk binding, as in Smalltalk, there is no notion of explicit deletion of objects. An object is removed from the database during garbage collection if that object is not referenced by any other

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-20 Thread Hei Virk
Hi everybody: I will comment later more. -I am just going to keep a presentation about the topic in my university here in Finland for theorists and I am making those slides at a moment.. One social observation: In my understanding the situation has been that people (me too) have not been

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-20 Thread Tilmann Zäschke
Hello Hei, sorry, I posted my answer first only to the dev list, I'm not sure you are on it. So here it is again, with some updates: Hi, I haven't read the whole post in detail, but I understand the main idea is garbage collection in databases. This reminds me of similar concepts in osome

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-14 Thread Tilmann
Hi, As far as I can tell garbage collection is an established concept in object databases, I think the oldest one that support it is GemStone/Smalltalk (https://downloads.gemtalksystems.com/docs/GemStone64/3.3.x/GS64-ReleaseNotes-3.3/GS64-ReleaseNotes-3.3.htm). However, I'm not aware of any

Re: A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-13 Thread Andy Jefferson
Hi, > -I have invented a new declarative method to update object databases and I > would like to introduce that method you. > > My question is: > Should the functionality of this method included in some future versions of > JDO (and perhaps some other definitions/systems under Apache)? > Also I

A new general method to update object databases / Should it be included in Java Data Objects, JDO ?

2016-05-12 Thread Hei Virk
Hi the JDO developer community and user community! -I have invented a new declarative method to update object databases and I would like to introduce that method you. My question is: Should the functionality of this method included in some future versions of JDO (and perhaps some other