Re: [Jmol-users] Water related questions

2010-06-01 Thread Angel Herráez
Is there an option for drawing water as crosses instead of spheres? There is stars. I think you could use it for what you want. If I remember correctly, Eric uses it in FirstGlance in Jmol. Is there an option to 'set autobond OFF' only for water? Don't think so, but maybe you can use

Re: [Jmol-users] set defaults pymol

2010-06-01 Thread Angel Herráez
I don't use Pymol, but that doesn't sound bad -as long as it is not difficult to implement. By the way, I've recently known about an initiative to set a system that translates between script languages: Pymol, Rasmol, Jmol are the first targets. The idea is that you can use the scripting

Re: [Jmol-users] rocketBarrels and arrows head

2010-06-01 Thread Angel Herráez
El 1 Jun 2010 a las 7:37, jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il escribió: It seems that this only works on alpha helices, no effect on beta sheets. What Bob meant is that he could expand the existing command so that it affects beta sheets too. I have no opinion about whether this should be done or

Re: [Jmol-users] Water related questions

2010-06-01 Thread jaime . prilusky
According to Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es: connect (water)(water) delete Great, thanks. This works perfect. Jaim -- Dr Jaime Prilusky | jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il Head Bioinformatics| RD Bioinformatics and Data Management | Department of

[Jmol-users] surface representations of atom selections

2010-06-01 Thread Roni Gordon
Hello, I'm trying to show the shrink-wrapped surface of a ligand in Jmol -- but it appears that isosurface will simply render the portion of the complete (i.e. all loaded models) solvent-accessible surface. For a partially buried ligand, this breaks the surface noticeably. geoSurface seems

Re: [Jmol-users] rocketBarrels and arrows head

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
If programs that remove the arrow heads from the helix cylinders also remove the heads from the sheet boxes, then Jmol should do that, too. What does Pymol do? 2010/6/1 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es El 1 Jun 2010 a las 7:37, jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il escribió: It seems that this

Re: [Jmol-users] set defaults pymol

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
First I've heard of it, though the last thing Warren and I were working on before his unfortunate demise last fall was exactly this. We were not optimistic that a general solution could be had. I hope they don't just try to do this totally on their own -- it requires some substantial understanding

Re: [Jmol-users] surface representations of atom selections

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Check the documentation regarding the isosurface command and the options SELECT and IGNORE. Some combination of those two will do exactly what you want. If you use SASURFACE and you want the same scale as geosurface or dots or spacefill, be sure to use SASURFACE 0. Some reason not to just use

Re: [Jmol-users] SMILES

2010-06-01 Thread Miguel Howard
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.com wrote: Bob, OK, I got it: 1. The url has to be encoded. 2. Which I tried before I wrote using ASP.NET UrlEncode 3) Hand entry of CCC%23C below works. 4) ASP.NET must be choking on # with Server.UrlEncode() The # has

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
tisk tisk! Never use setTimeout to do the Jmol load. Use a call FROM Jmol indicating it has loaded to trigger your AJAX call or whatever. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the

Re: [Jmol-users] News flash: Jmol reads SMILES into 3D format.

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol 12.0.RC16 adds full support for SMARTS bond logic: select smarts(A-,=;@A) select all bonded non-aromatic atoms (AA) that are connected by single or double bonds (-,=) in rings(;@) I believe I have a well-articulated schema for Jmol 3D-SMARTS. This can be found at

Re: [Jmol-users] surface representations of atom selections

2010-06-01 Thread Roni Gordon
At 2010-06-01 09:24, you wrote: From: Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] surface representations of atom selections Check the documentation regarding the isosurface command and the options SELECT and IGNORE. Some combination of those two will do exactly what you want. If

Re: [Jmol-users] surface representations of atom selections

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Sure. That's better than geosurface. Geosurface should only be used with full molecules, not partial surfaces, as it's rather ragged on the inside. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Roni Gordon roni.gor...@utoronto.ca wrote: At 2010-06-01 09:24, you wrote: From: Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger osrot...@chemagic.comwrote: Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this.

Re: [Jmol-users] set defaults pymol (Robert Hanson)

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Wayne, would you like to suggest a set of defaults that would work? Maybe in consultation with your colleagues at U Mass? Bob On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Wayne Decatur wdeca...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bob, Anything that lowers the hurdle to bringing users view high quality visuals when they

[Jmol-users] translation change

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
I made a change in the most recent development version of Jmol, but before we consider it for Jmol 12.0, I'd like input: Problem: JmolApplet.jar and JmolAppletSigned.jar are getting VERY large (2 Mb) Problem: approximately 30% of the size of the applet is translations. Comment: It seems

Re: [Jmol-users] translation change

2010-06-01 Thread Angel Herráez
My opinion: 1. I agree that we must stress the recommendation to use the split applet files. I'll take a look at the Wiki page to reinforce this. 2. I don't agree about removing the translations from the monolithic applet. If someone decides to use it for some reason (e.g. for local testing

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email:

[Jmol-users] JMol javascript thinks http address is local ....

2010-06-01 Thread Jay Vyas
Hi guys : The following code snippet is attempting to display a pdb file in jmol, by getting it from the http location . However, it bugs out on me, complaining that the file is not found at 'localhost:/http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/1I78.pdb1.gz' jmolInitialize(jmol/,true);

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread rgb
Otis Rothenberger wrote: Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the Jmol load completed approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email:

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Hansen
Same for me with Mac Mail. *** Jeff Hansen Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry DePauw University 602 S. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 jhan...@depauw.edu *** On Jun 1, 2010, at 10:10 PM, rgb wrote: