Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 02/02/2010 07:50 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: 3) I've casually followed the user group for many years, but I only recently started asking group questions related to the rebirth of an old Jmol project. I don't know the protocol for requests or key words, can you point me? Feature requests

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Robert Hanson
Otis, 1) It works like a charm, at least with 2-butanol. I understand what each line in your script is saying, but I never could have come up with this on my own! excellent! 2) The find axis component of the script will be of general use to me. I've been agonizing over drawing initial

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Stout
Thank you for that detailed explanation of quaternions, Bob! This is the first time I've actually been able to picture how to utilize them in a general way. (guess I just needed a different explanation) -Tom On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: Otis,

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Robert Hanson
Takes some getting used to. Basically: 1) You can define little local xyz frames based on any three atoms. 2) You can use differences of quaternions -- q1/q2 -- to determine relative orientation. 3) You can use quaternions in rotation commands in Jmol. I think the best demo of this is

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Stout
very cool -- I'm going to need to study that :) -Tom On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: Takes some getting used to. Basically: 1) You can define little local xyz frames based on any three atoms. 2) You can use differences of quaternions -- q1/q2 --

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob- Absolutely NOT more than I wanted to know. Thanks for the tutorial. Otis Probably more than you wanted to know. Bob -- Otis Rothenberger http://chemagic.org -- The Planet: dedicated and managed

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-02 Thread Robert Hanson
Otis, It would be good to implement that. Feature request! Suggest a keyword option that would describe this. There is a scripting way to do this. You find the axis perpendicular to the two groups, determine the angle required, and rotate one CW while the other CCW. Given center {C} and two

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-02 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, Three points: 1) It works like a charm, at least with 2-butanol. I understand what each line in your script is saying, but I never could have come up with this on my own! 2) The find axis component of the script will be of general use to me. I've been agonizing over drawing initial