Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread David Leader
Bob wrote: Sure, but -- you said you had the H atoms Are you saying you might want to move them? On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM, David Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: However I still might see if there is a student up to integrating the C code. My colleague tells me that this

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread David Leader
Bob, Sorry but I can't get the script line you sent to work. To check it wasn't my version of Jmol I went to your tutorial site and got the example page for connect. Then I: 1. Uploaded an example file with Hs: http://doolittle.ibls.gla.ac.uk/ top500H/1osaH.pdb 2. Pasted some script in

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Angel Herráez
David, connect 1.8 {H andetc. is not correct; you need _H or hydrogen, not H - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK

Re: [Jmol-users] Automatic font scaling - memory problems

2008-11-07 Thread Rolf Huehne
Robert Hanson wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So unfortunately the feature is rather useless except for special purposes with experienced users aware of the problem and a lot of Java memory. I think it's certainly

Re: [Jmol-users] Automatic font scaling - memory problems

2008-11-07 Thread Rolf Huehne
Robert Hanson wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the scaled fonts are fixed. Label offset scaling is probably a good idea, but it's complicated because that's a 2D offset embedded in a 3D zoom. Not saying it's impossible; I just have to do

Re: [Jmol-users] Automatic font scaling - memory problems

2008-11-07 Thread Rolf Huehne
Sorry, I lost a letter in the URL. the correct URL is: http://www.imb-jena.de/cgi-bin/3d_mapping-rh.pl?CODE=1a5eVIEW=snp Regards, Rolf Rolf Huehne wrote: Robert Hanson wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the scaled fonts are fixed. Label offset

[Jmol-users] Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Richard Steane
Angel/Bob What version of Jmol would this script/command work with? connect 1.8 {_H and connected(_O or _N)} {_O or _N} HBONDS CREATE Richard Steane - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's

Re: [Jmol-users] Automatic font scaling - memory problems

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the scaled fonts are fixed. Label offset scaling is probably a good idea, but it's complicated because that's a 2D offset embedded in a 3D zoom. Not saying it's impossible; I just have to do it right. Right now

Re: [Jmol-users] Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
Maybe 10.2 or 11.0 On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Richard Steane [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Angel/Bob What version of Jmol would this script/command work with? connect 1.8 {_H and connected(_O or _N)} {_O or _N} HBONDS CREATE Richard Steane

Re: [Jmol-users] Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Angel Herráez
On 7 Nov 2008 at 15:59, Richard Steane wrote: What version of Jmol would this script/command work with? connect 1.8 {_H and connected(_O or _N)} {_O or _N} HBONDS CREATE Not sure of the exact boundary, but I'd say any moderately recent. However, I am still not familiar with the cruly

Re: [Jmol-users] Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Angel Herráez
Sorry, I stand corrected I mess up my test: both parentheses and braces work the same - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread David Leader
Angel wrote: David, connect 1.8 {H andetc. is not correct; you need _H or hydrogen, not H So I do. It works now. Many thanks! I'm very curious to see whether it does the right thing with the relevant motifs. But it's been a hard day in the bioinformatics lab, so it will have to

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
OOPS! Thanks, Angel -- right, _H, not H. I was working too fast. Bob On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM, David Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Angel wrote: David, connect 1.8 {H andetc. is not correct; you need _H or hydrogen, not H So I do. It works now. Many thanks! I'm very

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
with that sample file, this looks better to me: connect 2.5 {_H and connected(_O or _N)} {(_O or _N) and not within(group, _1)} HBONDS CREATE That last bit guarantees that the bonds are inter-residue bonds, not intra-residue. It says, and not within the group of the atom selected already Bob

Re: [Jmol-users] Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
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Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-07 Thread Robert Hanson
OK. Keep me informed. The energy calculation that Jmol uses in general for hydrogen bond calculation is specific to carbonylCO-amideNH interactions and looks like the following. I'm sorry I don't have a literature reference to this. If you know it, please let me know -- I'd like to add that as a