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I'm interested in taking a closer look at using Jmol to display MEPS.
The Jmol sample smol files for benzene and fluoromethane work very
nicely. The smol file type appears to be a Spartan related file type.
I'm having trouble
. You must be explicit with hydrogen atoms.
Getting a six member ring to chair rather than boat takes some JME
drawing care, but being able to get either a chair or a boat into Jmol
is pretty neat.
To repeat myself, wonderful addition!
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At the risk of repeating myself too often, the UFF addition to Jmol
simply delightful. Thanks again to the developers responsible for
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Hello Angel-
The page in question is:
http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx
The draw structure link on the page is the operative link. I've
attached a png file of the screen at the point where
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back, but is there any
way to pick up a move into the applet or a click on any part of the
applet - i.e. bonds, atoms, or background?
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somewhere after the applet has been inserted (e.g. at the end of the body).
And it does
work! The first time it seems to take some delay, though.
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() {) -1) {
jmolVar1 = messageString + ; }
}
Put state info in new Jmol applet:
function pasteMol() {
if (feedbackFlag) { feedback(r[9]); } // Relevant to my page only.
evalRasmol(select *);
evalRasmol(jmolVar1);
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:16:32 -0600
From: Otis Rothenberger o...@chemagic.com
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] Need help passing a state script form one
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, false);
Convoluted! But I think this answers part of your question.
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Ignoring my load script, jmeString is simply the un-doctored
coordinate string (molfile) from JME - i.e. no concatenated LF or
CR/LF.
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Hi,
I'm trying to figure out how
responds to this page. I hope the above information is of some use to
you. As an aside, check out Jmol's UFF fuction on your model once
(if?) it loads (UFF link). I think this relatively new addition to
Jmol is really neat.
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quotes (#39;). Is that the intent? I'm using Jmol 11.9.9.
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followed by Clicking the UFF link gets the job done
for the Marvin Beans structure in the text field.
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Bob,
I have a page that does this with the JME drawing applet. I'm not sure
if this will help:
http
, and it should have your
calculate hydogens
or
minimize addHydrogens
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I should mention that the page also has a ChemSketch link. This link
simply does an inline molfile load of a molfile pasted in the page's
text field
, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:
OK, so Nico has released 11.9.19, and it should have your
calculate hydogens
or
minimize addHydrogens
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I should mention that the page also has a ChemSketch link
, but these two general cases quickly
caught my attention. It probably goes without saying, but allene and
ketene produce the same result.
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). What is the current recommendation for a MEP script?
Again, the partial charges in the files are reasonable, and they can
be read by a direct call to:
select; wireframe 0.03; spacefill 1%; spacefill 1%;label
\%-8.3[partialcharge]\;
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If you find a set that is a better default, we could consider that for Jmol
12, which I think is probably on the horizon.
Bob
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1) I thought range all was default, but there must be another
default. What
) More like the Jmol default. I expected that this would be the same
as A - i.e. min to max = all
Again, a point of information: Snip B) with -0.05 +0.05 essentially
produces the Jmol menu MEP for both Spartan data and Accelrys data.
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} @theAxis @theAngle
select within(BRANCH, {C}, {Cb})
rotateSelected MOLECULAR {C} @theAxis @{-theAngle}
Should do the trick.
Bob
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I'm trying to invert the configuration of a single carbon atom
Bob-
Absolutely NOT more than I wanted to know. Thanks for the tutorial.
Otis
Probably more than you wanted to know.
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hydrogen atoms, but they are exactly
superimposed in the molfile. A similar problem exists with a primary amine,
but the hydrogens are offset slightly in this case. Subsequent minimization
eventually gets them apart. Not so with the superimposed hydrogens on the
alkene.
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chemistry students (and teachers) excited about using Jmol, and a working
model page continues to attract attention. Obviously, true fixes are better
than kludges, but that will take time.
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attachment: jmolPic.jpg
specific examples. I need to make sure that I have the most recent Jmol
version. Is this still the 11.9.30_dev link that you sent in a previous
email?
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Finally, you are correct delete by atomIndex does work. I'm not sure why I
had a problem with this.
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On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Otis Rothenberger o...@chemagic.comwrote:
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I think I have the latest version of 11.9.30_dev on the chemagic server:
http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx
User instructions are sparse right now, but I think
oops, make that allene - not ketene
A question on timing: Is there a way to prevent Jmol from accepting a
JavaScript call to appletObject.script(string) until a running Jmol script
is finished?
Otis
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Otis Rothenberger o...@chemagic.comwrote:
Bob,
Your
.
Actually, a separate minimize link makes sense for another reason. The
minimize delay is really disruptive during model building.
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that my .js
pages have become and then put the page on the chemagic server.
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tried various string expressions (e.g. atomInfo['atomIndex=1'].color)
for the index value, but I'm not having any luck.
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means last element in this scripting language.)
But just about all of these are now much more efficiently retrieved using,
for example:
jmolEvaluate({atomindex=1}.color)
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Bob-
I guess that I need to change to jmol.js, but doing so is going to bring
down my house of cards!
No, no. Not at all. You can do anything you are doing now
molecule size would be useful. One
possibility is using math with zoom 100 and the orbit coordinates, 50 50 50.
Is this math doable with zoom? Is there another math approach that can be
used to redefine zoom 100?
Any help with the above questions would be appreciated.
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if the appended carbon atom is
still being viewed with astatine's radius. That might explain the web of
strange bonds.
Whatever the situation, I have some direction now. Thanks for the help.
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].color[xff]
atomInfo[8].infoH16 #16
atomInfo[8].atomIndex15
atomInfo[8]._ipt15
atomInfo[8].formalCharge0
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I read you last note. Did you mean
select{*).
add the carbon atom code here
select unselected
???
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Subsequent methylamine
can reconnect the two fragments any way I want. I can also make two separate
molecules of ethane. It appears that breaking off the following groups from
a larger molecule creates the problem described above:
CH3
OH
NH2
SH
Any suggestions?
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the replacement. :) I guess I'll just use processJmol(). Actually, the
function processes Jmol and JavaScipt entered in the page's text field.
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Bob-
Using your approach, picking deletes an H on propane. But minimize
addHydrogens does not add it back. I'm thinking maybe I have the wrong Jmol
version. I'm using 11.9.30_dev 2010-02-12 12:26. Is this the wong version?
The two minimization steps
logical attaching position of the
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on this at this point.
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or unbound. Maybe MSIE 8 uses CTRL-LEFT for something else and
doesn't pass it on the the applet. It should call up the menu.
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I'm using the bind command on Jmol 11.9.30_dev to set up mouse rotation
this:
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@{180.0 * _deltaY / _Height * mouseDragFactor};
rotate Y @{180.0 * _deltaX / _Width * mouseDragFactor};
But, right, there must be something about CTRL-LEFT and the Mac.
Bob
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Hello,
I'm using the following start up script
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where's the page?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Otis Rothenberger o...@chemagic.comwrote:
Bob,
Here is what's not working for me:
jmolApplet(450, load /models/alkane!ethane_mm.mol;moveto 0 1 1 1
66;hover off;frank off;set PickCallBack 'processPick';javascript
have a feeling
that he has some Java configuration, and possibly version problems.
I understand that this is a very general question, but can anyone point me
(him) toward recommendations for maximizing Mac/Jmol performance - Safari
and Firefox.
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a +/-
wheel feedback handle like _DELTAX and _DELTAY for mouse feedback. I can
bind the wheel, but movement along the Z axis is only +. Is there any
wheeled forward/backward feedback information associated with BIND?
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that that out so you can try it.
Question: Is there some reason we would see ** somewhere in select phrases
rather than *? I'm pretty sure not.
Bob
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I am using bind/unbind to move selected molecular fragments
is set to do the with-hydrogen edit (works). If you do a delete
hydrogens in the text command field, you will see the problem on the first C
add.
Any thoughts on the problem? It appears for the first click atomIndex=i is
not what I think it is??
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a
flash
var pt = a.xyz * 2 - {connected(a)}.xyz
set appendNew false;
var w = '1\ntest\nC ' + pt.x + ' ' + pt.y + ' ' + pt.z + '\n';
data 'append @w';
var b = {*}[0]
connect @a @b single;
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I am having an atom
the groups already present invert
chirality completely.
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I'd like to understand the problem.
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On 03/26/2010 06:30 AM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
Bob,
I'm making some progress on your suggestion to check and branch during
the
addition of atoms (below
rather than
that ridiculous atomIndex=1000, but that's not the problem here.
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Ah, interesting! OK, that's fixed for Jmol 11.8.23 and 11.9.37
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molfile data rather than a server file load is intended to run. Am I correct
on this assumption? If so, any thoughts on this problem?
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There is a users manual, but it's really in its early stages. I also linked
the page to a video that gives a 3+ minute synopsis feel for how the
application works.
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is displayed. Drawing
the cis-isomer loads the same Jmol display. If I use the X button of
the editor to force hydrogens in the right configuration a nonsense
structure is loaded. I am running Mac OS 10.4
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Otis
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Downside: It's a helper application. Upside: ACD generously makes
ChemSketch a free download for private, student, educational use.
Isn't ChemSketch
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On 4/9/2010 1:07 PM, william reusch wrote:
Otis,
Are you transferring the JME structure as a Smiles string or as a JME
string. The latter has more information in it.
Bill
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Thanks for the comments. The 2D to 3D translation
- not linear. The addition of a set of cyclic hydrocarbon
templates would be good.
Otis
On 4/9/2010 12:16 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
Bill,
Thanks for the comments. The 2D to 3D translation is an ongoing problem
for us. The JME editor is light weight and it can be embedded directly
adding stereochemical reading, and it seems to
work OK, but there is still a problem with the addhydrogens
business. WIll fix
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Otis Rothenberger
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Bill,
I'm passing molfiles
started to do this, I realize that the JME reader is totally
nonfunctional. I'm adding stereochemical reading, and it seems to
work OK, but there is still a problem with the addhydrogens
business. WIll fix
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3. You could also color by charge, use ionic radii, ...
See
1. http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/File_formats/Coordinates [serach for
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then display. Question: does JME allow direct file
reading, or it is only reading strings of data? If the latter, well,
now it reads files.
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Bob,
I think it only reads strings. Implied in your note is the use of the
following JME function via Live
check:
alert(jmolGetPropertyAsString(moleculeInfo[1], all, 01))
shows correctly adjusted atomInfo.
If, however, the substituted atom is univalent ( e.g. Cl vs C above),
then the atomInfo formula remains unchanged - i.e. the ethane formula in
the above example.
Bug?
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in this case.
I realize this optimization could go on forever. I'd like to get it to
a reasonable point for simple implementations for now. So send me JME
strings of cases that don't work properly, and I'll see what I can do.
But no promises.
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in this case.
I realize this optimization could go on forever. I'd like to get it
to a reasonable point for simple implementations for now. So send me
JME strings of cases that don't work properly, and I'll see what I
can do. But no promises.
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, you can only cycle between bold and hash in one
direction.
http://www.molinspiration.com/cgi-bin/properties
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I'll put the new version on our server later today. I have to remove
some JME load filters that I have on the page so
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I wrote to him yesterday, and I got the 2004 version, which I already
had.
Phil
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I'm using a version that Peter sent to Tom in 2005. I just wrote to
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to check which hand has the scar!
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Jeff and Jonathan-
Here's a Mac fix, I hope!
First, I forgot. There is a WHEEL direction feedback. That allows this
to be a bit
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A single click on a bond would be nice, but I think only atoms (and
possibly draw objects???) can pass to a clickcallback.
This is very tentative, so I put it on the department server
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I think the WHEEL gives best control for bond rotation, but hopefully,
item 3 covers a wheeless mouse.
http://www.che.ilstu.edu/osrothen/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx
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just click it in my opinion.
Bob
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Ok, with a little help from Peter Ertl, I think I understand the
JME's 4
stereo bond rotation. Maybe this was all resolved on the group
that model, can I put its molfile into a Jmol variable?
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If it is just a mol file, you can use within Jmol:
var jmolx = getProperty(extractModel)
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page will illustrate the problem:
http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx
Has anyone else seen this problem? I don't think it is related to other
code on the page.
Otis
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Hello, Francois
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OK, I see that this is fixed in RC7. I need to start checking updates
more frequently!
Otis
On 4/21/2010 7:29 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
Thanks Jonathan,
Yes, I am using 12.0.RC6_dev.
I did not know about the approach:
isosurface modelmo mo 1
I can make what I want to do work
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