Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart

2012-04-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Simon Legner wrote: I tried to simplify and re-organize the Wiki main page. Due to the spam filter, I cannot create a new temporary Wiki page (e.g., WikiStartNew) to view, improve, discuss the new page. For this reason, I attached the WikiText. Perhaps someone with a higher

Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart

2012-04-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Simon Legner wrote: Hi! On 03/04/12 16:25, Paul Hartmann wrote: (and maybe the webstart option, but I'm not sure it needs to be recommended that much) I think it should. On the FOSSGIS I met a few people using a very outdated version of JOSM (half to one year old)

Re: [josm-dev] josm, changelogs and release processes

2012-03-30 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, shirish शिरीष wrote: I cannot find your changes. Did somebody delete them (already)? What text did you put in? Just this line :- en: * JOSM does not have a [wiki:Releases Version numbers] really (it is 1.5 for some years now). ar:x bg:x cs:x da:x de:x el:x es:x et:x eu:x

Re: [josm-dev] josm, changelogs and release processes

2012-03-30 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Frederik Ramm wrote: Actually I read the ticket twice, while it did and does mention about the new server bit there is no svn vs git comparison given anywhere on the ticket.. The only comment I see therein is for move to github [0] but nothing about git specifically.

Re: [josm-dev] How external plugins are added to plugin list

2012-03-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Vincent Privat wrote: What script generates the plugin list? A cron job scanning all the plugin manifests and adding some auto-generated lines for SVN plugins. I've got a problem with the latest version of the opendata plugin (28091, published in changeset 28092), it

Re: [josm-dev] Hi to all plugin maintainers!

2012-03-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, Ilya Zverev wrote: Not a day without surprise: one of josm-tested users has been greeted with the following message: CommandLine plugin needs JOSM version 4980, and you have 4878. It turns out, most plugins in osm svn had their minimal versions updated to 4980, which is

Re: [josm-dev] Soliciting feedback on conflation plugin

2012-03-01 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Josh Doe wrote:  I re-downloaded the list of plugins in JOSM, but it doesn't show up there.   Is the Jar file available somewhere? Yes, I mentioned this in the wiki; I think the plugin list isn't being updated during the current stabilization phase. You can download the

Re: [josm-dev] How external plugins are added to plugin list

2012-02-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Josh Doe wrote: I can't seem to find how the plugin list [0] is generated, specifically how external plugins are added to this list. Presumably there is some script which generates that file, which I can't find. I'd like to move my work-in-progress conflation plugin out of

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts 2

2012-02-19 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, All the conflicts in josm and SVN-plugins are fixed. The 4 external plugins very likely will stop working with tomorrows josm. I hope the authors will update them. Until next tested there is still time to improve the shortcuts by exchanging them between the different plugins. Ciao

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Ian Dees wrote: I agree that JOSM core should get preference for plugin conflicts, but I think that if a user has explicitly set a key binding by unchecking the Use Default option, nothing but the user should change that key binding. For example, I explicitly set W to Draw

[josm-dev] Shortcuts 2

2012-02-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, the conflicts on [http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/ShortcutsList] are down to 10 in P, R and T namespace. Any suggestions to fix the remaining ones are welcome, as well as ideas where the shortcut assignments don't reflect the real importance of functions. Supply

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Paul Hartmann wrote: - let plugins ask the user if he wants to keep the current shortcuts or use the old ones in case of conflicts. Depends on the implementation, but this could work. It should only ask when shortcuts are affected that actually have been used at least

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: yes, I know this, but it never worked well for me. As soon as you start to make your own shortcuts (or by the time a core function or plugin (different to the function you assigned the shortcut to) decides to use this shortcut as well) you will

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Paul Hartmann wrote: I agree, this is a bug. There can a long chain of remappings in case of a single conflict. One solution is to avoid conflicts altogether, but this is impossible: The user can change a shortcut and install a plugin afterwards that uses the supposedly

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Pieren wrote: If the default would be to keep everything as is, we copy all these troubles a long time into the future. So we have one break now and later on wikis and forums on docs refer to one setup and not to a user specific setup. Fixing current conflicts is one

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, colliar wrote: together with akks I developed an automatically generated shortcut overview at http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/ShortcutsList Thanks for your work, you two. Why do we have two shortcuts for draw action (A and N) ? Don't know. N is wasted

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Ilya Zverev wrote: *22.4% utilsplugin2 *24.2% PicLayer *33.2% buildings_tools So, by changing the only shortcut used in building_tools plugin, you've inconvienced only 33% of your users? Way to go! Good thing not all of them know about trac and this mailing list. And

[josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, together with akks I developed an automatically generated shortcut overview at http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/ShortcutsList Every yellow and red entry in this table should be fixed. The additional modifiers are deprecated. Instead proper groups (including ALT1 or

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Pieren wrote: As a plugin maintainer, I would like to see from the JOSM core the following points: - reserve some shortcuts for plugins 'forever'. It is unfair to allow plugins shortcuts and once users have their habits, force them to change just because core is suddenly

Re: [josm-dev] Shortcuts

2012-02-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/2/15 Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de: What you want is the reverse and this means keeping old behaviour for everybody instead of moving into the future. what is the benefit of moving into the future by changing shortcuts

Re: [josm-dev] Creating a user-friendly changelog for tested release

2012-02-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Simon Legner wrote: Do you think we can merge both lists, at least internally? We'd have one wiki page ChangelogSource and each entry is marked either for changelog or for startup note or for both. This would remove redundancy and make live easier for the translators.

Re: [josm-dev] Changing package of utilsplugin2 troublesome?

2012-02-09 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012, Josh Doe wrote: I'd like to use some functionality of utilsplugin2 in a plugin I'm writing, but would like to put it in a more proper package than just utilsplugin2, like org.openstreetmap.josm.plugins.utilsplugin2. Will this cause any problems? While I'm at it maybe I

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Translations

2012-01-30 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, colliar wrote: You can translate whatever you want. There is no ownership of tasks for any language and no progress for Id language at all I fear. Is there a possibility on trac to inform a user that someelse is already editing the page ? Not that I know. Happened to

Re: [josm-dev] Creating a user-friendly changelog for tested release

2012-01-30 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Josh Doe wrote: I think it would be useful to create a more user-friendly changelog for the -tested releases, something which lies between the contents of the StartupPage and the SVN log. As we seem to be focused on creating a better experience for new users (e.g. creating

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Translations

2012-01-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Frans Thamura wrote: i am from indonesia, we speak bahasa, i love to translate the heavy tutorial rather the menu .. :) anyone work on this? You can translate whatever you want. There is no ownership of tasks for any language and no progress for Id language at all I

Re: [josm-dev] Bug or Intentional

2012-01-24 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, Under Display Settings / Look and Feel is an option: Draw rubber-band helper line. Make sure it's still checked. BTW It is not under Look and Feel but OSM Data. Russ and some others on IRC were able to help me figure it out. For anyone reading the archives: We put JOSM into expert

Re: [josm-dev] new package repository for Ubuntu

2012-01-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012, Matthias Julius wrote: Debians stable policy is based on the wrong assumtion, that for stable the bugs are fixed and no features are added. But as for most packages bug-fixes aren't done, the debian stable simply is a debian old. Just to clarify: Debian stable does not

Re: [josm-dev] Guidelines for increasing Plugin-Mainversion

2012-01-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Josh Doe wrote: Are there any guidelines for increasing Plugin-Mainversion, such as waiting for the required version to be satisfied by josm-tested? Or just upgrade at will (assuming it's required of course)? I'm thinking specifically in regards to adding the

Re: [josm-dev] lasso mode ticket #3910

2012-01-14 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Oliver Raupach wrote: I have implemented the ticket #3910 for the lasso selection. I have attached a patch to this ticket. Please check and test the new enhancement. If you're in the selection, you can switch by pressing Shift-A. What is still unclear to me: I've added

Re: [josm-dev] first impressions

2012-01-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, You will also find that reflected in the code, where more often than not, we prefer a simple implementation over one that you would be taught in a Java development course. We need to keep the learning curve down so even people who are not Java developers can write a plugin without

Re: [josm-dev] first impressions

2012-01-10 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Oliver Raupach wrote: I mean, there's surely a reason for everything. That was just my first impressions when I viewed the source codeand tried to create a plugin There is a very simple reason. It works and is simple. The more complicated the build system gets the

Re: [josm-dev] first impressions

2012-01-10 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Jiri Klement wrote: I have hudson running at my laptop that builds josm and plugins and also checks for changes in josm that breaks backward compatibility with plugins. Problem is that it's broken all the time (either compilation error in plugins or some change in josm that

Re: [josm-dev] Styles and presets update on TRAC not working.

2012-01-04 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Morten Olsen Lysgaard wrote: I'm in the process of starting a mapping project faced towards aviation data. In that process I need custom styles and presets in JOSM. I've written two preliminary tests, uploaded them to github and added the direct link to the styles and

Re: [josm-dev] Allow plugins to register search operators

2011-12-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Josh Doe wrote: I'd like to work on this functionality this week, any comments? Only one: It is very unlikely that for most installations additional searches are registered and if, then only a few. So the aim should be to have the internal searches be as fast as

Re: [josm-dev] Make josm use .mo files

2011-12-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, David Paleino wrote: We dropped gettext files as they are wasting a lot of space in the translation. The lang files only carry each string once and not multiple times like .mo does. What do you mean? A gettext .mo file carries each string once -- a msgid + a msgstr. Maybe

Re: [josm-dev] Make josm use .mo files

2011-12-26 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011, David Paleino wrote: it would be nice if JOSM used .mo files (installed as /usr/share/locale/code/LC_MESSAGES/josm.mo), instead of jar-embedded .lang files. Please read further. We dropped gettext files as they are wasting a lot of space in the translation. The lang

Re: [josm-dev] Stabilization ends

2011-12-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, I can attach my config as a file to the ticket if you like, but in If that repoduces the error, do so. retrospect, I think the problem was caused by running two instances at the same time and changing shortcut keys settings in both. I don't think many other people will be silly

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: There is a sad story behind this. From day one, presets were designed to be distributed. It was never the plan to have one central set of presets that the JOSM team would maintain and everyone would follow that. The idea was that interested users

[josm-dev] Stabilization ends

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hi, stabilization phase ended today. So patches accumulated over the last week may be integrated. We had a very long stabilization phase caused by Paul's idea to improve the preferences :-) I know this delay is one of the drawbacks of our current development model, but as it happens very

Re: [josm-dev] Stabilization ends

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: There are two new reports: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7158 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7162 #7158 is probably a rare situation or special configuration. (We haven't had any complaints so far.) Not sure how serious #7162 is, but I'd

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: But I admit that this is a kind of romantic view because it assumes that everyone easily has a server available where they could publish their styles, and that information about available styles flows freely without the need for a central directory.

Re: [josm-dev] share resources with other editors

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: The lowest hanging fruit would be to share TMS sources: http://git.openstreetmap.org/potlatch2.git/blob/HEAD:/resources/imagery.xml http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps Both lists are quite long, but have surprisingly little overlap. The format

Re: [josm-dev] Stabilization ends

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Vincent Privat wrote: I'm fixing #7162 right now. Probably we really have the best developers of the world! Ciao -- http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Pieren wrote: so by no means should we blindly take for gospel what the Wiki says. but the JOSM presets, yes... That is and was always a critical situation. But the preset was added as alternative to the included stuff and did not replace it. I think it was correct

Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: I've updated the licensechange plugin and I would like all JOSM users to download the new version. However an older test installation steadfastly claims that all plugins are up to date after I asked it to update the plugin list. The local version is

Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: When the required version of JOSM increased, update is not possible. In this case JOSM stays on old version. You see this indicated by a small * in the plugin list of that instance. Ah, thanks. I re-built the plugin, let's see if we get flooded

Re: [josm-dev] Trac: OperationalError: database is locked

2011-12-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011, colliar wrote: Just want to make sure you notice (hope you are working on it) I get OperationalError: database is locked on the ticket system for new tickets and requesting filtered ticket list. Opening tickets directly works. This is basically an issue caused by too much

Re: [josm-dev] PicLayer - modification

2011-11-24 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011, Valeriy Pekarskyy wrote: Also - I changed wiki of plugin a bit to be up-to-date. Picture with animation in-action is added too: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/2/20/Piclayer_usage.gif For all your work I think you need a reward. I made you official responsible for

Re: [josm-dev] PicLayer - modification

2011-11-14 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Valeriy Pekarskyy wrote: Actually the question is whether anyone have any objections for such big changes to one plugin. As I am not an author of PicLayer, I do not feel to do such modification without consulting with anyone, and do not feel OK to do a fork of the plugin,

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Translations Page : Missing link

2011-10-31 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Pierre Béland wrote: while translating page http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Translations I found a broken link on the following line : * Add you language in init() function of [source:trunk/src/org/openstreetmap/tools/I18n.java I18n.java]. Can someone confirm that it

Re: [josm-dev] Dynamic buttons in side menus

2011-10-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: Still, there is a serious flaw in the design: The visible space shrinks, as soon as you hover above the dialogue. This is very irritating when you don't intend to use the buttons, but try to interact with the list entries directly. Yes. A solution to

Re: [josm-dev] Dynamic buttons in side menus

2011-10-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Ilya Zverev wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:11:42 +0300, Komяpa wrote: I got used to dynamic buttons almost immediately. Just clicked where they usually were, and they appeared right under mouse cursor. The key word being usually were. New users will feel a big WTF not

Re: [josm-dev] Dynamic buttons in side menus

2011-10-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Pieren wrote: I wrote a diary because I don't think it has to go to Trac. UI is always a question of personnal taste. Now JOSM looks like a Flash game. The only missing feature is to get 50 points each time you click fast enough on appearing objects or new cursor effect.

Re: [josm-dev] Dynamic buttons in side menus

2011-10-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: I got used to dynamic buttons almost immediately. Just clicked where they usually were, and they appeared right under mouse cursor. Dynamic buttons help a lot on small (mine is 1366x768 and it's small for josm) screens. But it might be worth making

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Translations

2011-10-10 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Trying to pick up the JOSM help translations, but were not able to login. Tried to get a new password (and got it) but that did not help. Tried to re-register under a new name, but got a logon request !??? when the

Re: [josm-dev] svn:mime-type ?

2011-10-07 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011, Vincent Privat wrote: There's a bunch of Java files defining their svn:mime-type to text/plain. It breaks Trac syntax coloration, for example: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/src/org/openstreetmap/josm/data/osm/RelationMemberData.java?rev=4490 Are these

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Translations

2011-10-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: With JOSM continuously gaining more features, maintaining full translations, especially those spoken only by a small group of mappers or worse, only by translators who are not even familiar with mapping, becomes harder. When there is not a single

[josm-dev] JOSM Translations

2011-10-02 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, the JOSM translations for Arabic, Greek, Hebrew, Icelandic and Turkish don't fullfill the minimum standards for some time now. The translation status can be seen at http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Translations. I did not finally decide yet, but I tend to remove these languages in

Re: [josm-dev] updating mappaint styles

2011-09-22 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: How / when are mappaint-styles updated? I did some updates to the mappaint-style for maxspeed signs (on its wikipage on josm.osm.de) but I don't get the modifications locally. I incremented the version number from 1.0 to 1.1 (now I discovered that

Re: [josm-dev] pixel per degree

2011-09-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: Why is it called pixelPerDegree in ImageryInfo? Apparently, the value is in pixels per unit in projected space (pixelPerEastNorth). Which is nonsense as well. It should not be relative to projected coordinates. What is the alternative? I don't

Re: [josm-dev] pixel per degree

2011-09-19 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: Why is it called pixelPerDegree in ImageryInfo? Apparently, the value is in pixels per unit in projected space (pixelPerEastNorth). Which is nonsense as well. It should not be relative to projected coordinates. I think the sole idea behind this is

Re: [josm-dev] Proper use of Relations editor

2011-09-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Bob Hawkins wrote: Is it important when adding ways to a current relation to place the selections in their correct geographical postion with the existing members? If not, what is the purpose of 'Add all objects selected in the current dataset before the first member /

[josm-dev] Feature-Test

2011-08-28 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, I implemented a new feature, but currently we are unsure whether it is better than before or not. Please try setting dialog.dynamic.buttons=true in advanced preferences. Now the buttons in the right-hand menu are displayed only in case mouse is in the corresponding field. This saves

Re: [josm-dev] implementing a windows menu (bug #59)

2011-08-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Stefan Breunig wrote: More important though: to achieve this I create the map frame once on start and never destroy it. Is there any disadvantage I missed? I know about the bug where the view in the download diag is reset to 0.0, 0.0 and that code depending on

Re: [josm-dev] r4188 - removal of debug code

2011-08-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: P.S. I'm even one of the few people not using IDE's at all, as I learned programming before graphical-all-in-one-interfaces became available. Which on the other hand means I still can work from 80x25 ASCII remote terminals without any problems. Now I

Re: [josm-dev] r4188 - removal of debug code

2011-08-20 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Dave Hansen wrote: I saw that you removed a bunch of my debugging code in here: r4188 | stoecker | 2011-07-01 00:27:15 -0700 (Fri, 01 Jul 2011) | 1 line improve TMS zoom handling Is there some other way you'd like to see it done? Or, perhaps some way that would be a

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: The only solution is slowing the pace of updates, and creating a team of volunteers that updates and approves the documentation ahead of a new release. This will never come. We are no commercial software. This is

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-11 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: But, if you happen to modify any function that you (or anyone else writing for this marvelous editor) may expect that may impact a lot of peoples edit life, a short drop-note would make many happy. Especially in this

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: Not related to this thread on the German forum by any chance? http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13269 Yes. I hope you draw some consolation from the fact that a large number of people actually tried to explain things to this guy. I

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-02 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, after careful considerations I drop that idea completely. Although I still think it is a good idea I'm not willing to care for the resulting trouble to be expected. Beside the reaction from Karl and missing answers from Frederik also another discussion with the author of NewTags

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-01 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: Things for which possible donations could be used: * awards for implementing enhancements, fixing bugs I'm skeptical of such bounties. They haven't worked for OSM in the past and they seldom work for any open source project (why work for free when

Re: [josm-dev] Lean JOSM II

2011-07-13 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Claudius wrote: I was hoping that this might offer a seperate way to get localized JOSM for languages not having reached the 2000 translated strings limit yet but no avail :( Well. This would need much more work than removing files. And actually I don't think it is

[josm-dev] Lean JOSM II

2011-07-11 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, it seems Frederik dropped Lean-JOSM after we did improve the translation situation, as the size gain was not as big anymore. Nevertheless JOSM is growing and growing, so the general idea is still useful. I implemented a Lean JOSM II on the JOSM server. The links

Re: [josm-dev] problem with icons in mappaint style speedlimit-signs

2011-07-11 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: No, I also thought about this. I also did restart several times, changed the style order (btw.: does this matter?) but no difference. I even deactivated the standard style - it worked: no icon at all. Try deleting the mirror file in JOSM dir.

Re: [josm-dev] Important: JOSM trac gets vandilized.

2011-07-10 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, colliar wrote: Just have a look at: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Concepts/Conflict?version=25 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/UpdateSelection?version=21 This not only happens to JOSM trac, but to others as well. Don't know what the spammers want

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Florian Lohoff wrote: Dirk - You are doing great work - i just tell you that changing a default may have huge impact on peoples workflow and this has bitten at least me and 3 collegues in my office who stopped adding addresses and updated josm every day to check whether bug

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: As the person who originally introduced the use_last_as_default functionality to JOSM I feel that I must side with Florian here. That functionality was introduced precisely for addresses - at the time we thought it would be putting people off if they

Re: [josm-dev] Building JOSM with added language

2011-07-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jeff Haack wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build a custom JOSM with Indonesian language added, since it hasn't been added in yet, however I am running into problems. The end result is always that I can choose Indonesian in the language settings, but all of the text remains in

Re: [josm-dev] Bahasa Indonesian Translation

2011-07-07 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Kate Chapman wrote: Thanks, right now we will compile it ourselves. Translation will continue as there is time. If you have trouble ask here and I will try to help. Note that you need to checkout the JOSM part in OSM SVN, as this contains the i18n directory. svn co

Re: [josm-dev] License change plugin

2011-07-07 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 07/02/11 14:50, Stephan Knauss wrote: The doCheck() in BasicLicenseCheck is in my opinion not right regarding nodes that have no tags. As all information these nodes carry is their existence and coordinates I see no reason why any other status

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-07 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: Thus we have choosen the current variant which means a simple and understandable rule: Only use defaults when not already tagged. My opinion: it worked well before. Which version? There was a change a lot of revisions ago in Rev 4050 (before

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-07 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Florian Lohoff wrote: Here in the office people were yelling at me for at least 4 days because editing became a PITA I'd assume you should use other presets which fit your workflow better. and it was simply an undocumented change in default behaviour.. Well, the

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Florian Lohoff wrote: Bug or feature? Feature. JOSM distinguishes between untagged elements, which get defaults applied and already tagged elements, where defaults are not applied. This ensures that editing already tagged elements does not introduce unwanted tags.

Re: [josm-dev] Bahasa Indonesian Translation

2011-07-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Kate Chapman wrote: We just began on the Bahasa Indonesian translation. (About 10% done). That work showed have been pulled in during the last update, but we aren't able to switch to Indonesian though in the preferences. No. I18N update includes only established

Re: [josm-dev] addr mask / last tag takeover / dysfunctional when building=yes on way

2011-07-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Florian Lohoff wrote: JOSM distinguishes between untagged elements, which get defaults applied and already tagged elements, where defaults are not applied. This ensures that editing already tagged elements does not introduce unwanted tags. Aeh - Okay - Somebody draws

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM wiki: screenshots in translated pages

2011-07-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, colliar wrote: Screenshot are often added to the wiki. Should they be included in translated pages or is it nicer to upload a new one in the translated language ? I did upload translated screenshots for some German page but it will be quite a lot of extra data. Don't

[josm-dev] New JOSM tested

2011-07-04 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, I made version 4201 new tested. In the last weeks there have been implemented a lot of bug fixes and also some news. The versions of last days seemed to be pretty stable and I hope the fixes of weekend did not change the situation. :-) Ciao -- http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key

Re: [josm-dev] License change plugin

2011-07-02 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: The plugin still has a bug where newly created objects are flagged as problematic, but other than that it would be good to be released to the public (given that Potlatch meanwhile has the same functionality - and we don't want to fall behind, do we ;)

[josm-dev] JOSM bugs and tickets

2011-06-19 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello, OpenStreetMap and JOSM get more and more popular which also means that JOSM gets more and more bug reports. Currently we have 484 open bugs and 994 open tickets for JOSM and plugins. If I take approx. 1 hour per bug, fixing the bugs would mean 3 months full-time job to handle all.

Re: [josm-dev] Request for presets: new tags for bicycle shops

2011-06-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Federico Cozzi wrote: I would like to add a few new tags for bicycle shops which have recently been approved (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/service:bicycle) Here is how the current shop=bicycle preset should look like: item name=Bike Dealer

Re: [josm-dev] OsmPrimitive / PrimitiveData refactoring

2011-05-30 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 29 May 2011, Paul Hartmann wrote: Paul Hartmann wrote: [1] https://github.com/bastik/josm/commit/a91ea53 [2] https://github.com/bastik/josm/commit/780d186 [3] https://github.com/bastik/josm/commit/7b1d245 Applied (4098-4100). I was prepared to recompile most of the plugins, but it

Re: [josm-dev] Plugin images from osm in JOSM wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 25 May 2011, colliar wrote: Am 24.05.2011 17:05, schrieb Dirk Stöcker: Theoretically the link should be: [[Image(osm:source:applications/editors/josm/plugins/utilsplugin2/images/utils.png)]] This works fine for links, but not for Image(). Must be a bug in Trac I assume

Re: [josm-dev] Plugin images from osm in JOSM wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 25 May 2011, colliar wrote: There is also a problem with [wiki:Help] wiich leads to wiki:Help/Actions/Help and not to the main help page. This is a feature since some 0.11.x. Trac always tries local links (relative to page directory structure) first, and then the global one. Why

Re: [josm-dev] Plugin images from osm in JOSM wiki

2011-05-24 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 24 May 2011, colliar wrote: Am 24.05.2011 15:52, schrieb Paul Hartmann: colliar wrote: Hi I tried to add the utils2 icon on the JOSM wiki, but I did not get around using a path including a revision. Is there a possibility without a revision in the path ? cu colliar You can replace

Re: [josm-dev] How to present results of my conflation analysis

2011-04-28 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Josh Doe wrote: Any ideas would be much appreciated! A long term plan is to use the mapview also to view subsets of the map. So we could have e.g. a dialog with two small sections, each showing a partial map. One map shows the old state, one map the new state. This

Re: [josm-dev] Which seperator is used for keyborad shortcuts in wiki/josm-jar

2011-04-26 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, colliar wrote: I have found different seperators for keyboard shortcuts in JOSM. * On the wiki pages mainly - is used. * In JOSM menus a wild mixture of + and - is used. In the menus is no wild mixture, but: * control-keys are added with + * keys are appended with -

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM German translation (in German)

2011-04-22 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, colliar wrote: Wie werden die Benutzer auf Deutsch angesprochen ? Ich selber habe bisher versucht, es mit man unpersönlich zu halten, habe aber auch Du und Sie gefunden. Siehe auch

[josm-dev] JOSM German translation (in German)

2011-04-21 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hallo, nachdem ich lange darüber nachgedacht habe und Merkaartor den Weg schon gegangen ist, habe ich jetzt damit angefangen in der Übersetzung von JOSM zwei unglückliche Begriffe zu ändern: Knoten ist ab sofort Punkt und Weg ist ab sofort Linie. Punkt und Linie sind viel

Re: [josm-dev] Illegal tag/value combination

2011-04-16 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Well, test is not recognized and unknown tags are info-level and not displayed by default. I see. Turned it on ;-) Actually I think that displaying these info-level hints as Infos (and not as errors like before) would be also useful by default.

Re: [josm-dev] Illegal tag/value combination

2011-04-15 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Nakor wrote: It is. You always have a second message telling you the exact issue. Sorry I do not see this second message. Where would it be? Simply enlarge the display or use mouse-over. It is appended at the end. I now reversed this, so the detailed message comes

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