Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-07 Thread Philip M. Meier
Oh, I'm sorry Doug! I misunderstood your question! To my knowlodge only BEA's Weblogic Application Server supports it automatically! Bye, Philip Thanks. Just to clarify: I've been told that some containers will do this *automatically*, that is, they will recognize links in JSP/HTML (hey,

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-07 Thread Chen, Gin
recommended (back by BEA e-docs) using encodeURL regardless of whether you are using URL rewriting, sessions, or even straight cookies. A look at the 6.1 e-docs shows that this has not changed in the new release: http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs61///webapp/sessions.html#100770 -Tim -Original Message

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-07 Thread Joe Cheng
Tim's right, you should ALWAYS use encodeURL from the beginning of your project--it doesn't take much effort and it will save you heartache in the future. And it's part of the Servlet spec, who knows if they will use it for something else in the future. Or even better, create your own method

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Geert Van Damme
container might switch to URL rewriting to keep the sessions. URL rewriting works, but there are a lot of drawbacks. That's why you should only use it when cookies are not possible. Now, why is it bad: - It provides ugly URL's. At first you might say that this is not that important, but in a lot

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Philip M. Meier
Thanks to all, who answered in such a long and detailed way! I'm very happy about this! I have to realize a project for a customer, who don't want cookies and I have tried to convince him of using cookies, but i didn't want! To use the automatic mechanism of switching to URL-Rewriting, when

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Geert Van Damme
specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philip M. Meier Sent: woensdag 2 januari 2002 12:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? Thanks to all, who answered in such a long and detailed way! I'm very happy about this! I have to realize

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Philip M. Meier
I will tell him the extra cost and I think, he will see that this is an important fact... ;-) But when cookies are not support the Container automaticly detects that and I don't have to prepare every Link with encodeURL to ensure that the session is still handled correct around? Thanks, Philip

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Anthony Tagunov
Hello Philip! PMM But when cookies are not support the Container automaticly detects that and PMM I don't have to prepare every Link with encodeURL to ensure that the PMM session is still handled correct around? I do. I do have to do that. :-( Best regards, Anton

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Zvika Markfeld
: Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? Shit! ;-) Every Link? I lot of work is coming to my room! ;-) Bye, Philip - Original Message - From: Anthony Tagunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? Hello Philip

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Philip M. Meier
I know these containers, which supports URL-Rewriting: Resin 2.01 Tomcat 4.0 4.01 Does anyone know of any servlet/jsp containers that support automatic URL rewriting (which is referred to in the link Philip sent, and which I've heard referred to by other folks)?

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-06 Thread Doug Turner
Thanks. Just to clarify: I've been told that some containers will do this *automatically*, that is, they will recognize links in JSP/HTML (hey, if browsers can do it, why not servlet containers) and insert the necessary info to handle session identification. This is done, supposedly, without

Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Philip M. Meier
Hello! I'd like to make use of the session-object, but I don't want the session-object to use cookies, but instead to use URL-rewriting! Is there a method or whatever to tell the session-object to use url-rewriting and no cookies? Thanks in advance, Philip

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Geert Van Damme
: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? Hello! I'd like to make use of the session-object, but I don't want the session-object to use cookies, but instead to use URL-rewriting! Is there a method or whatever to tell the session-object to use url-rewriting and no cookies? Thanks in advance, Philip

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Philip M. Meier
Hello Geert! There's no special reason, but I thought, that url-rewriting is better until! Why is it better? Is there a method or whatever to tell the session-object to use url-rewriting and no cookies? Greetings, Philip Why? Cookies are better than URL Rewriting. Geert Van Damme

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Zvika Markfeld
Message- From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philip M. Meier Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? Hello Geert! There's no special reason, but I thought

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Philip M. Meier
First of all thank you, Zvika! I use JBoss 2.4 with Tomcat 4.01 and I didn't find any element in the DTD of the Deployment-Descriptor, which is able to force URLRewriting! So I will use the default properties, which is to use only URLRewriting, when cookies are not supported or allowed.

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Zvika Markfeld
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting? First of all thank you, Zvika! I use JBoss 2.4 with Tomcat 4.01 and I didn't find any element in the DTD of the Deployment-Descriptor, which is able to force URLRewriting! So I will use the default properties, which is to use only

Re: Sessions and URL-Rewriting?

2002-01-05 Thread Joe Cheng
URL rewriting is part of the spec. You need to use response.encodeURL() around every one of the links you put on your site. For example, instead of: a href=page2.jspnext page/a you need to do: a href=%= response.encodeURL(page2.jsp) %next page/a If you do this, then the servlet container

mixing sessions with cookies, sessions with url rewriting

2000-04-10 Thread Sylvain Roche
Hi, I don't know how to handle this. I have two servlets which both use sessions persistence engine. One must use cookies because with multipart forms, jrun stores the session identifier into the resquest parameters, ie in an object it cannot access. But for another servlet, my need is to handle

Re: mixing sessions with cookies, sessions with url rewriting

2000-04-10 Thread Mike McKechnie
As Jim Haungs is fond of saying, "the only interesting numbers are one and infinity". Designing a workaround for exactly two sessions could cause problems when you need to go to three... Also, note that if a user starts a new browser process, that browser will get a new session no matter what

Re: mixing sessions with cookies, sessions with url rewriting

2000-04-10 Thread Sylvain Roche
with cookies, sessions with url rewriting As Jim Haungs is fond of saying, "the only interesting numbers are one and infinity". Designing a workaround for exactly two sessions could cause problems when you need to go to three... Actually, this IS a matter of two servers, as long as I want o

Re: mixing sessions with cookies, sessions with url rewriting

2000-04-10 Thread Mark Wutka
I'm not sure if this is efficient or even a reasonable thing to do, but could you could put the subsession id in the path itself and set up a servlet to translate the path. There are probably some subtle nuances that you may have to deal with, but here is the general idea: Set up a servlet that

Re: mixing sessions with cookies, sessions with url rewriting

2000-04-10 Thread Mike McKechnie
Also, note that if a user starts a new browser process, that browser will get a new session no matter what you do. In fact, that's how I support Do you mean for example start once Netscape and then IE ? Because that's far No -- session cookies are kept in process memory for the browser, so