[juenger_org] Betrifft: [Jünger-Rundbrief] FAZ 09. September Rez. zu Kiesel / EJ

2007-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Klaus Gauger
Realität sind. Ein Schriftsteller ist schliesslich kein stumpfsinniger Photoapparat. Klaus Gauger --- In juenger_org@yahoogroups.de hat jejking jejk...@... geschrieben: Ein paar Bemerkungen erlaube ich mir. So kommt man nicht weiter. Kiesel fragt allen Ernstes, ob Jünger angesichts der

[juenger_org] Betrifft: [Jünger-Rundbrief] FAZ 09. September Rez. zu Kiesel / EJ

2007-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Klaus Gauger
vorkommen … nicht auszudenken… _ Von: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de [mailto:juenger_...@yahoogroups.de] Im Auftrag von Klaus Gauger Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2007 23:35 An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Betreff: [juenger_org] Betrifft: [Jünger-Rundbrief] FAZ 09

RE: [juenger_org] [Jünger-Rundbrief] NZZ: Blum enberg / Jünger

2007-10-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Lieber TW, hätte gern das PDF. Bis dann, Ihr KG --- Tobias Wimbauer wimba...@web.de schrieb: Liebe Jünger-Freunde, in der Neuen Zürcher Zeitung (Nr. 233 vom 8. Oktober 2007, S.60) erschien heute von Ahlrich Meyer eine Rez. zu Blumenbergs Jünger-Buch: ''Subtile Lektüre. Hans

[juenger_org] Betrifft: Henry Malons Zuschrift und John Kings Antwort

2007-10-15 Diskussionsfäden Klaus Gauger
das Zusammenspiel zwischen Friedrich Georg und Ernst Jünger ist in diesem ganzen Kontext sehr interessant. Klaus Gauger --- In juenger_org@yahoogroups.de hat John King jejk...@... geschrieben: So, ein paar Bemerkungen vorweg: Dawkins ist Engländer und seine Argwohn gilt allen

RE: [juenger_org] [Jünger-Rundbrief] FOCUS 22. Oktober: Rezension zu Schwilk / Jünger

2007-10-22 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Lieber TW, hätte gern das PDF. Bis dann, Ihr KG --- Tobias Wimbauer wimba...@web.de schrieb: Liebe Jünger-Freunde, wie angekündigt, ist heute die Rezension von Rainer Schmitz zu Heimo Schwilks Jünger-Biographie im FOCUS erschienen (''Intellektuell obszön. In einer großartigen

RE: [juenger_org] Betrifft: Henry Malons Zuschrift und John Kings Antwort

2007-10-25 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
hirnlosen Hedonismus und stumpfen Gleichgültigkeit nicht genügen. Klaus Gauger --- simonfriedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de schrieb: Bravo, Herr Gauger! (And excuse me if I continue in English - perhaps this will encourage responses from others who can read the German contributions but are more

RE: [juenger_org] [Jünger-Rundbrief] FAZ 30.10 .2007: Leserbrief zu Jünger/Ortega y Gasset

2007-10-30 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Mitleidsethik hinbiegen zu wollen ist Unfug. Klaus Gauger --- Tobias Wimbauer wimba...@web.de schrieb: Liebe Jünger-Freunde, nachstehender Leserbrief von F.J. Krömer erscheint morgen in der FAZ. Beste Grüsse rundum, Ihr / Euer tw Text: F.A.Z., 30.10.2007, Nr. 252 / Seite 8

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2007-10-31 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
philosophisch bedenklicher Jünger, den man so für heute nicht unwidersprochen hinnehmen kann und den man auf politischer und philosophischer Ebene kritisieren muss. Klaus Gauger --- simonfriedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de schrieb: I see that Herr Gauger and I have independently expressed

RE: AW: [juenger_org] Betrifft: [Jünger-Rundbr ief] FAZ 30.10.2007: Leserbrief zu Jünger/Orte ga y Gasse

2007-11-01 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
. Klaus Gauger --- Andreas Raithel andreasrait...@t-online.de schrieb: Wegen der Stichworte „Nietzsche“ und „Der Arbeiter“: Wurde eigentlich in der Literatur zu Ernst Jünger inzwischen schon einmal der Band 90 der Heidegger-Gesamtausgabe verhandelt? _ Von: juenger_org

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2007-11-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
, hochdekorierte Elitesoldaten ticken. Klaus Gauger --- martin.reichel martin.reic...@surfeu.de schrieb: Hallo zusammen, gestern lief der schöne Film Full Metal Jacket auf Arte. Der Drill-Sergeant: „Ihr seid keine Roboter [Pause], ihr seid Killer!“ Des weiteren: „Gott liebt Euch

[juenger_org] Chor und Korps

2007-11-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Lieber Herr Reichel, ich meine natürlich keinen Elitechor (ein Sänger war Ernst Jünger ja nicht), sondern einen Elitekorps. Mit den Homophonen ist das so eine Sache, da kommt man schnell durcheinander. Klaus Gauger Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen

RE: [juenger_org] [Jünger-Rundbrief] Sinn und Form: Karl Löwith zu Jünger

2007-12-04 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
, Heidegger über die Kritik am Willen zur Macht Nietzsches indirekt die Nazis und vor allem die Nietzsche-Interpretation durch den Nazi Alfred Bäumler angreift). Klaus Gauger --- Tobias Wimbauer wimba...@web.de schrieb: Liebe Jünger-Freunde, in der neuen Ausgabe von SINN UND FORM ist der

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2008-11-28 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
society.     Yours,     Klaus Gauger     --- Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de schrieb am Fr, 28.11.2008: Von: Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de Betreff: [juenger_org] Jünger´s predictions An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Freitag, 28. November 2008, 11:43

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2008-12-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Waldgang develops his ideas about individual anarchism in the modern world that culminates in his conception of Der Anarch and anarchism (based primarily in the ideas of the left-wing Hegelian Max Stirner) in the end of the seventies in Eumeswil.     Yours,     Klaus Gauger   --- Simon Friedrich

Re: [juenger_org] Misogynie

2008-12-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Lieber Nick,     bei mir hat das mit der Psychologie einen persönlichen Hintergrund, ich habe selbst eine Zeit lang mit psychologischen Problemen gekämpft und ein paar Therapien gemacht. Ich kenne die Freiburger Psychoszene recht gut. Dir noch eine gute Zeit,     Dein   Klaus   ---

AW: [juenger_org] Navigating Leviathan's carcass

2008-12-10 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
the forest-fleer and Eumeswil, but also about all the other important diaries, essays and novels of Ernst Jünger:     http://www.lammla.de/domains/arnshaugk/diktynna/ej_technikkritik.pdf     Yours,   Klaus Gauger   --- Leon J. Niemoczynski niemoczyn...@hotmail.com schrieb am Mo, 8.12.2008: Von: Leon J

RE: AW: [juenger_org] Navigating Leviathan's carcass

2008-12-11 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
,       yours,     Klaus Gauger   --- Leon J. Niemoczynski niemoczyn...@hotmail.com schrieb am Mi, 10.12.2008: Von: Leon J. Niemoczynski niemoczyn...@hotmail.com Betreff: RE: AW: [juenger_org] Navigating Leviathan's carcass An: juenger list juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2008, 17

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2008-12-11 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
of modern society and tries to live his libertarian ideas and values.     Yours,   Klaus Gauger --- Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de schrieb am Do, 11.12.2008: Von: Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de Betreff: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Navigating Leviathan's carcass An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de

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2008-12-19 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Bravo, also teilen wir diese Meinung - ich hätte es nicht besser sagen können. Besonders in einer Fremdsprache. Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 18. Dezember 2008, 17:39:12 Uhr Betreff: AW: AW: [juenger_org

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2008-12-22 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
verzeihen! Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Samstag, den 20. Dezember 2008, 00:22:11 Uhr Betreff: AW: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Navigating Leviathan's carcass Lieber Simon,       ja, ich glaube, wir sind uns in den meisten Punkten ziemlich

AW: [juenger_org] Jünger Biografie

2009-02-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Simon,     You are so damn right. Instead of speculating about Ernst Jünger and his works (Was he fascist or not? Does his work have a value for our present time or not?) it is in first line necessary to read his books in order to get an own and proper idea about this writer, instead of

Re: [juenger_org] Jünger Biografie

2009-02-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
know about Mr.Sarkozy or Mrs. Carla Bruni though...-;) Have they ever heard about EJ?   Regards Rich         - Original Message - From: klaus gauger To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: AW: [juenger_org] Jünger Biografie Dear Simon,     You

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2009-02-03 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Montag, den 2. Februar 2009, 22:53:10 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Jünger Biografie Dear Richard,       Martin Meyer is still the head of the cultural pages of the NZZ. Another man from Switzerland

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2009-02-04 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Lesezirkel. Will start with Abenteuerliches Herz, nothing too challenging and yet with some fantastic insights.. Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Dienstag, den 3. Februar 2009, 18:27:24 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] Jünger Biografie

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2009-02-05 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
%. (But as I said earlier, I do admit to generalizing a little in order to correct the academic and political bias in this field.) Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. Februar 2009, 17:14:23 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org

Re: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie

2009-02-05 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
with a great sense for the spiritual and moral plight of modern man. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, /Stefan 2009/2/5 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Dear Simon,     I am glad that you agree with what I wrote about Jünger and his interpreters. Jünger polarized often his

Re: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie

2009-02-05 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
in Argentina and in America Latina. Yours marta --- El jue 5-feb-09, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com escribió: De: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Asunto: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie Para: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Fecha: jueves, 5 de febrero de 2009, 3:49 pm Dear Stefan

AW: [juenger_org] Juenger and ideologies

2009-02-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
were men with a great sense for the spiritual and moral plight of modern man. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, /Stefan 2009/2/5 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Dear Simon,     I am glad that you agree with what I wrote about Jünger and his interpreters. Jünger polarized

Re: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie

2009-02-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
our history, people, revolutions, changes.   General Perón was someone very important and interesting in Argentina and in America Latina. Yours marta --- El jue 5-feb-09, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com escribió: De: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Asunto: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger

Re: [juenger_org] Juenger and ideologies

2009-02-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, /Stefan 2009/2/5 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Dear Simon,     I am glad that you agree with what I wrote about Jünger and his interpreters. Jünger polarized often his interpreters, a lot of interpretations a distorted, because

Re: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie

2009-02-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
in Argentina and in America Latina. Yours marta --- El jue 5-feb-09, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com escribió: De: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Asunto: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie Para: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Fecha: jueves, 5 de febrero de 2009, 3:49 pm

AW: [juenger_org] Anarch thesis?

2009-02-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
was their important point? But I suspect yours would be an exception. How would I be able to read it? I manage Juenger in original, so presumably I can manage your German? Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. Februar 2009, 17:14

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2009-02-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
its own way. Not so with the salvation of individual souls, to steal a phrase from religion. Simon Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Samstag, den 7. Februar 2009, 01:39:11 Uhr Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie Dear

Re: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie

2009-02-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
brother Ernst. E.J. would probably very much have agreed to all that. Kind regards Richard - Original Message - From: klaus gauger To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: Re: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Jnger Biografie Dear Richard,     yes

Re: [juenger_org] Jünger translations

2009-02-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Vittorio Klostermann will allow the translation. All best, Tobias Wimbauer -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 09.02.09 19:51:15 An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] Jünger translations Dear Simon, this book

Re: [juenger_org] Some translations

2009-02-14 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Hi Marta,     Yeah, tempestades de acero, radiaciones, Siebzig verweht etc, are in some way autobiographies, but there is a difference between these writings and normal autobiographies: They are highly artificial, they were planned as literary works written by a professional writer, they are

AW: [juenger_org] Your Anarch thesis

2009-03-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
with your Überleben in der Technischen Welt. Bis bald, Simon! http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Samstag, den 7. Februar 2009, 18:50:55 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] Anarch thesis? Dear Simon,     my

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Your Anarch thesis

2009-03-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
: [juenger_org] Your Anarch thesis An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Montag, 9. März 2009, 9:59 That is exactly how Ernst Jünger would also have answered - he also saw things very differently throughout his life, and had no problem with that evolution. Simon Von: klaus gauger

AW: [juenger_org] Abenteuerliche Herz translations

2009-05-13 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Simon,     I didn´t know that Das Abenteuerliche Herz wasn´t already translated into English. Or is the current translation bad? But anyway, this is an important work, to translate this book of Jünger into the english language. I am looking forward to read your translation.     Yours,    

AW: [juenger_org] Das Abenteuerliche Herz - Zur Kristallographie

2009-05-27 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Simon:     I am not a native speaker of english, but your translation sounds good to me and seems to be accurate and very near to the german original. But only a native speaker can tell you if your translation is really beautiful. I have made only one very little correction - the word

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2009-05-29 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
of hints are very useful to me as a non-native German speaker. I'll welcome any more. Enjoy your holidays.  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 27. Mai 2009, 14:29:00 Uhr Betreff: AW

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2009-09-01 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Greg,       as you are very influenced by Max Stirner, Eumeswil should be important to you. In Eumeswil Jünger builds up his fourth and last figure (Gestalt). After the warrior (Der Krieger) , the worker (Der Arbeiter), the forest-fleer (Der Waldgänger, who already is an anarchist figure)

AW: [juenger_org] Betrifft: The anarch and the anarchists

2009-09-01 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear sagejoel,     Jünger differs in Eumeswil clearly between anarchists (who want to destroy the existing order by anarchist violence and who usually only confirm the existing order because they fail to destroy the order and only provoke a harsh reaction by the people who defend the existing

AW: [juenger_org] Betrifft: The anarch and the anarchists

2009-09-01 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear sagejoel,     the hero of Eumeswil, Martin Venator, is a servant of the tyrann in this novel, called the condor. He could kill the condor if he wanted to, but he has no reason to do it. The anarch has the possibility of killing somebody as much as any other person has this possibility. But

Re: [juenger_org] The anarch;Eckhart and Schopenhauer

2009-09-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Gregory,     I also haven´t found quotations from Meister Eckhardt in Jüngers works (actually, I also never searched for such quotations - if there are some, I overlooked them. And anyway, I am no specialist on Meister Eckhardt). But there is a close connection between Jünger and Martin

Re: [juenger_org] Stirner and his philosophy

2009-09-05 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     I read the book Der Einzige und sein Eigentum in German about 15 years ago. I don´t remember any parts in this book where infanticide, murder and incest are justified. The book is mainly ironic and witty and is just a rejection of all the obligations and ideologies imposed to a

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: The forest of Eumeswil

2009-09-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
? Regards, Joel On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote:   Dear Joel,     I read the book Der Einzige und sein Eigentum in German about 15 years ago. I don´t remember any parts in this book where infanticide, murder and incest are justified

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Vigo and the diagnose made in Eumeswil

2009-09-06 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
characterize Stirner as a 'great saint' ?  What is saintly about him? Regards, Joel On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote:   Dear Joel,     I read the book Der Einzige und sein Eigentum in German about 15 years ago. I don´t remember any

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger a fasc ist in the 1970s?

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
the flame. I am happy to retreat to my dark corner should my comments appear like spark to tinder. Regards, Jd On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:10 AM, klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Simon, Dear Joel, Vigo is in Eumeswil one of the teachers of Martin Venator who works

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: The forest of Eumeswil

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Joel, I believe the forest of Eumeswil is just a geographic fixation of the metaphor of the forest from his book Der Waldgang. The forest of Der Waldgang is just a metaphor for the surrounding and the physical

AW: [juenger_org] Differences: The forest of Eumeswil

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
.  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:52:28 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: The forest of Eumeswil Dear Joel, that´s right, he disappears

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     did you know that Jünger had contacts to the resistance-group gathered around Stauffenberg? It was planned in 1944 to publish after the success of the revolt Ernst Jüngers Essay Der Friede and to hand it out to the youth of Europe. In his time in Paris he already had contact to

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
  Klaus, If I remember correctly, Juenger was out collecting butterflies when the plot was underway. He stated that assassination attempts only strengthen the power of dictators. I have wondered if this was a thought offered for that time only, or for all times. Jd 2009/9/7 klaus gauger

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: The anarch a Nietzschean Overlord?

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
the later one. Simon http://ernst-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:39:28 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger a fascist

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger in the end only disliked democracy?

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
of the early one to attack the later one. Simon http://ernst-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:39:28 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger and fa scist books - my point of view

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
of drugs, so shouldn't confuse the early with the mature Juenger, least of all use the experiments and mistakes of the early one to attack the later one. Simon http://ernst-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger the 20th of July of 1944

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
in the Bois de Boulogne. I attach a footnote including the sources on which this is presumably based. As to the Stauffenbergs offering him their mansion, I know nothing. Regards, Joel 2009/9/7 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com: Hi Joel, Jünger was - if I remember well - in Paris when

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger the 20 th of July of 1944

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
in the Bois de Boulogne. I attach a footnote including the sources on which this is presumably based. As to the Stauffenbergs offering him their mansion, I know nothing. Regards, Joel 2009/9/7 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com: Hi Joel, Jünger was - if I

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     the newest and probably most complete books on Jüngers biography and his works in german are the two I mentioned before: The one from Kiesel and the one from Schwilk. The focus of Kiesel is on the works of Jünger, the focus of Schwilk is on the biography of Jünger. The both came

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger the 20 th of July of 1944

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
gleichen Zeit gesagt, das ist ja kein schlechtes Zeichen; ich hatte die Diskussion nur mit halbem Auge verfolgt. Herzliche Grüsse t -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 07.09.09 23:32:14 An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Betreff: Re: [juenger_org

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
. Joel 2009/9/8 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com: Dear Joel, the newest and probably most complete books on Jüngers biography and his works in german are the two I mentioned before: The one from Kiesel and the one from Schwilk. The focus of Kiesel is on the works of Jünger, the focus

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
be an unenlightened person.   Yours Rich   - Original Message - From: klaus gauger To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Stauffenberg and Jünger   Dear Richard,     who is this Sri Aurobindo? He seems

Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger the 20 th of July of 1944

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Montag, 7. September 2009, 23:58 Lieber KG, diese hier: http://twitter.com/wimbauer/status/3824994153 :-) t -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 07.09.09 23:55:20 An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de

Re: [juenger_org] What is your interest in J ünger, Joel?

2009-09-07 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:39:28 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger a fascist in the 1970s? Dear Joel

Re: [juenger_org] The new right in Europe

2009-09-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
and mistakes of the early one to attack the later one. Simon http://ernst-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:39:28 Uhr

AW: [juenger_org] The purpose of Jüngers authors hip

2009-09-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
on which this is presumably based. As to the Stauffenbergs offering him their mansion, I know nothing. Regards, Joel 2009/9/7 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com: Hi Joel, Jünger was - if I remember well - in Paris when the plot happened and he was nervous at that time, like all people

AW: [juenger_org] The new right in Germany

2009-09-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     you are right, 400 Marks were some money at that time. A german teacher earned around 4000 Marks a month then. But when you keep in mind that Jünger was a well earning man in the last years of his life (the last twenty years of his life he was economically in a good situation),

AW: [juenger_org] JÜnger and the question of tec hnology

2009-09-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
to the biographies, the one academic work on Juenger I did read and appreciate was your Krieger, Arbeiter, Waldgaenger, Anarch  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Dienstag, den 8. September 2009, 13:49:49

AW: [juenger_org] Differences: acceptable and not acceptable

2009-09-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
that on July 20, 1944, the day of the plot, Juenger was was away catching butterflies in the Bois de Boulogne. I attach a footnote including the sources on which this is presumably based. As to the Stauffenbergs offering him their mansion, I know nothing. Regards, Joel 2009/9/7 klaus gauger

Re: [juenger_org] Junger, technology and Man

2009-09-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
://ernst-juenger.blogspot.com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Gesendet: Montag, den 7. September 2009, 10:39:28 Uhr Betreff: Re: [juenger_org] Differences: Jünger a fascist in the 1970s

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Evola

2009-09-15 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
must be experienced to be understood. Wouldn't we all agree?! But now we're certainly off the Juenger track and should leave it at that!  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Montag, den 14. September

AW: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Evola

2009-09-16 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
don't agree with it.  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Dienstag, den 15. September 2009, 19:49:01 Uhr Betreff: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Evola Dear Simon,     Evola was as a young man after

[juenger_org] Re: Benoist, the french new right, Le Pen a nd Benoist and Jünger

2009-09-23 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
was (1) or (2). If so why does he characterize Stirner as a 'great saint' ?  What is saintly about him? Regards, Joel On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote:   Dear Joel,     I read the book Der Einzige und sein Eigentum in German about 15

AW: [juenger_org] Forest fleer, anarch, master-spy, wolf

2009-10-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Simon,   your remarks regarding the forest-fleer and the anarch are brilliant and I agree with every word of them.   Yours,   Klaus Gauger     --- Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de schrieb am Fr, 9.10.2009: Von: Simon Friedrich simonfriedr...@yahoo.de Betreff: [juenger_org] Forest

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Forest fleer, anarch, master-spy, wolf

2009-10-11 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Freitag, den 9. Oktober 2009, 16:14:14 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] Forest fleer, anarch, master-spy, wolf Dear Simon,   your remarks regarding the forest-fleer and the anarch are brilliant and I

AW: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Forest fleer, anarch, master-spy, wolf

2009-10-12 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
to find myself with plenty of leisure. Hope some comes your way too!  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Sonntag, den 11. Oktober 2009, 15:01:54 Uhr Betreff: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Forest fleer, anarch

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Re-publication of The Failure of Technology

2009-10-23 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
the leader.  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Freitag, den 23. Oktober 2009, 11:22:28 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] Re-publication of The Failure of Technology Dear Greg,     it´s just

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Heidegger, Nietzsche, Juenger, seinvergessenheit, etc

2009-11-03 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
:-) Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Freitag, den 23. Oktober 2009, 15:11:10 Uhr Betreff: AW: AW: [juenger_org] Re-publication of The Failure of Technology Dear Simon,     the difference between

AW: [juenger_org] Jacques Ellul

2009-12-20 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Hi Gregory,     Jacques Ellul was an open-minded catholic sociologist and historian, not a very conservative and not a conservative-revolutionary man too. He was an intelligent man and Aldous Huxley - who was one the most brilliant minds of the 20th century - loved him too. There is a good

Re: [juenger_org] The papers written at our universities today

2009-12-20 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     I´ll do the same. I am currently reading Ozzy Osbournes I am Ozzy (his autobiography which came out some weeks ago). I believe such a book is more worth reading than most of the papers that are published at our universities today.     Yours,     Klaus     --- Joel Dietz

AW: [juenger_org] Anti Technology

2009-12-20 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
more than I about both men, so I'd be interested to hear your view. I know almost nothing about Heidegger, and have only been reading Juenger for perhaps a year.   Thanks,   Greg. --- On Sun, 20/12/09, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote: From: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Subject

[juenger_org] Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne

2009-12-20 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
. --- On Sun, 20/12/09, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote: From: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [juenger_org] The papers written at our universities today To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 10:28   Dear Joel,     I´ll do the same. I am

Re: [juenger_org] Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne

2009-12-20 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Osbourne An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2009, 11:50 wollt Ihr nicht Eure privaten Unterhaltungen privat führen und nicht über die Jüngerlist? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: klaus gauger klaus_gau...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 20.12.09 11:48:29 An: juenger_org

AW: [juenger_org] FG Juenger (and 'anti techn ology') und Ozzy Osbourne und Ernst Jünger

2009-12-21 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Hi Simon,     these are good news. This book from F.G. Jünger impressed me a lot and it is worth to be translated in such an important language like English.     Yours,     Klaus     P.S.: Lieber TW, wie ich gerade festgestellt habe, stehen die Privatadressen der Mitglieder bei den Mails in der

AW: [juenger_org] Comments on Ellul and technology

2009-12-21 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
by the last random information that it receives, which mechanically changes what it previously held true. It possesses merely updated and changing information, rather than growing cognition.)   Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Montag, den

AW: AW: [juenger_org] Modern technology

2009-12-28 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
, this should be understood as a hoping for the return of superior powers to guide mankind.  Simon http://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Dienstag, den 22. Dezember 2009, 13:55:32 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] anarchist

Re: [juenger_org] Sorel and Juenger -- Zeev Sternhell's text

2010-01-02 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
: klaus gauger To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:26 PM Subject: AW: [juenger_org] Sorel and Juenger -- Zeev Sternhell's text   Dear Greg,     Zeev Sternhell is correct in one point: All this different schools, anarchism, fascism, marxism etc. merged in Berlin

AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger

2010-01-04 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Joel,     it is right that Jünger always fled from society, as a 18 year old schoolboy to the foreign legion, and as a old man as an anarch into the forest. Who finances this freedom? That is a typical question of a marxist. Today we have in modern society millions of anarchs: Young people

Re: [juenger_org] Jünger-Hamsun?

2010-01-08 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
Dear Stefan,     I agree with you, and Hamsun won the Nobel Prize of literature for this book, though I have to make the remark that this book of Hamsun was also the favourite book of the Nazis, because Hamsun in this book develops a Blut und Boden-philosophy (Blood and Soil, the philosophy of

Re: [juenger_org] Jünger-Hamsun?

2010-01-09 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
style, out of it. Don't get me wrong however, I know that Hamsun sympathized with the nazis, the occupation of Norway and all that, but that was twenty years after said book was published.   Regards, /Stefan 2010/1/8 klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com   Dear Stefan,     Der Segen

Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger

2010-01-14 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
am Fr, 15.1.2010: Von: Joel Dietz jdi...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger An: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de Datum: Freitag, 15. Januar 2010, 3:47   I suppose I'm not very open minded about these things. Jd On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:53 PM, klaus gauger

Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger

2010-01-16 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
privaten Plaudereien privat und nicht Listenöffentlich. Gruss Wim. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht--- -- Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com Gesendet: 15.01.10 06:56:41 An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Betreff: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger Dear Joel, maybe you should

Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger

2010-01-16 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
accurately. If EJ hated conservatism, why was he friends with Carl Schmitt? Right wing fringe or no, something remains unexplained in your account. Jd On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:20 AM, klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com wrote:   Dear Joel,     Tobias Wimbauer doesn´t want us to discuss

AW: [juenger_org] The two groups of Juengerites

2010-01-18 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
with this list because it is not all about intellectual onanism. Hang in there Klaus!  Simon http://ernst- juenger.org Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. Januar 2010, 12:20:50 Uhr Betreff: Re: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's

AW: AW: [juenger_org] The earth changing its skin

2010-01-22 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
://ernst- juenger.blogspot .com Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 21. Januar 2010, 15:17:55 Uhr Betreff: AW: [juenger_org] The earth changing its skin Hi Simon,     you´re right. The worker is only a starting point, An der

AW: [juenger_org] Pissrinnen etc

2010-01-27 Diskussionsfäden klaus gauger
could be genuine useful to humanity. I'm not feed up with this list because it is not all about intellectual onanism. Hang in there Klaus!  Simon http://ernst- juenger.org Von: klaus gauger klaus_gauger@ yahoo.com An: juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. Januar 2010, 12:20