, but at least asking the question now means that's one
things less to worry about.
Going to 2.7 also means 3.x changes are an awful lot simpler too.
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incoming messages are delivered to the wrapper, which forwards them to the
thread at its next scheduler slot. I've written
Hi,
gevent would be nice, on the (obvious) proviso any implementation
integrated approrpriately with other parts of the gevent ecosystem.
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choosing a library. If you haven't chosen
a language yet, I'd seriously recommend either Scala or Go - primarily
because they've both had this sort of coding model built in from the ground
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I'm having a problem with pipelines of threaded components sometimes
failing to terminate when all the child components have terminated.
I think I might have found the answer
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for AxonType/AxonObject (which
should probably be ditched now anyway really, thinking about it).
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Just to note that I'm planning the next release at the moment, and I'm
planning on the following stuff:
* Finishing off the Dirac 1.0 bindings.
* Finishing Packaging up the Macro work as a standalone
application
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through to help with the website. (I've got
some plans for improving the website, but the traditional problem of
only 1 pair of hands!)
As a secondary note to this, I've today shifted the beta site over to being
the main kamaelia site
quite well. Given the versioning of Y.Y.M.r, this would
suggest that the next release would be 1.1.2.0.
Either way, in advance of the new year - Happy New Year :-)
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I've built the 1.0.12.0 release and linked it from the website front
page. This is the 4th and final release of 2010.
I think it also represents a sustainable rhythm of development -
bi-monthly releases, with work primarily on branches, and new work
primarily inside applications which can
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Sounds like a fun idea, and thanks for the kind words :-)
The thing interesting about the 3D visualisation is that unlike the 2D
graph visualisation is that it's actually nested, which opens up some
interesting options.
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are actually harder, but should be doable safely now given
the existence of the STM code)
I'm not sure what notifications you might want to send to the
backplane itself though either. (suggestions/comments welcome)
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That would be extremely useful and also quite cool to see working :-)
It'd be utterly fantastic. Also, any improvements to the visualiser have
knockons elsewhere (eg to the ER Modeller) so anything done here would be very
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sin_port=htons(33636), sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.2.2)}, [16]) = 11
And reported recieved:
write(1, (('192.168.2.2', 33636), 'Hello World'), 39) = 39
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I am pleased to say that I finally have a freelance contract where I can
make great use of Kamaelia. I am
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[snip]
Re-reading that, sorry for the poor grammar in places. Just excited to
be able to say finally this has happened :-)
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I'm happy to just do this instead:
@classmethod
def from_feparams( new args )
However, before I choose I'd be interested to hear whom this may cause
breakage for.
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The thing about catching up on email after being away from
connectivity is missing really cool announcements. Really pleased you
could get this released, and hope it goes well. I'll take a look as
soon as I can - sounds neat
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Hi,
The website was briefly down for a few hours when you looked last
week, and is down again at the moment. (There's, shall we summarise, a
hosting transition going on at the moment)
That said, there are tutorial materials
(permanently) in the next couple of
days. In the meantime, hopefully this message is useful!
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I'm an absolute newbie, and I need to get started. I understand your
MiniAxon tutorial is geared to my level
the right
thing, based on a known, defined path. Some people like that tool,
some hate it - which is what I suspect would be the reaction to be
for Kamaelia.Path
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until I see the full file you're *currently*
editting and the *current* sourcefile, I have no chance of reconstructing
exactly what's happening.
Third time lucky, hopefully.
Please can you post:
* The code that you have
so you shouldn't be having issues.
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provide an interesting means of creating a thread pool. (At present the way
to do that really would be to send a Queue.Queue through a pipeline, and
allow the recipients to all read from it, but that's a different
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No positive responses.
Probably not worth the effort in to clean up and merge this in that
case.
The intrawebs are slow don't you know
question, and it deserves a decent
answer, if only because I can make a plea for help that way :-)
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They're currently highly experimental, and located here:
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rs.py
so I'm skipping those imports :-)
Anyway, code:
I've shifted a copy of the code here
have fun :)
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serious issues with it myself.
Kamaelia/setup.py
Changed to pull in the Apps.JMB namespaces as well.
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in the right direction.
Much appreciated - I may well take you up on that. :)
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It is indeed - thanks !
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are declarative, and both of which
people use because they're useful tools, not because they think I have a
concurrent problem :-)
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Excellent, what I'll do then is merge this branch onto trunk, and I suggest
that you work on your changes on a branch
Just as a note, I've done this.
In case you've not used svn to create branches before, the way to do
this is as follows
On Friday 10 July 2009 14:15:30 Rasjid Wilcox wrote:
Thanks Michael for setting this up. I'll set myself up a code.google
developer id over the weekend and get back to you with it.
Just so people know, I've got some significant changes in mind, so the
current code is more to get a feel
- this is a really cool contribution :)
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class printer(component):
@sleep_if_no_data
@shutdown_on_any_control_message
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this. Personally I
think it's a good option, but open to comments. (Tempted to give a lightning
talk at europython on autoloading in general to gauge opinion)
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At the end of the day though, they're both just programming models. They
aren't mutually exclusive, and picking the right model for the right job is
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starting point for
that :)
Thanks for reminding me that it does need addressing, reminders of the
questions that are most often asked are very useful! :)
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an Axon visualisation/introspector to a _running_ system - which looks like
this:
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I'm tempted to revisit syntactic sugar at the moment - especially for simple
components (eg wrapping generators etc). Any special requests, thoughts or
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I've not really taken the C++ miniaxon forward is because in
order to do a proper Axon for C++ you'd really want to start adding in
typing.
Oh, for interested parties:
http://code.google.com/p/kamaelia/source/browse/trunk/Code/CPP
an increasing cause of concern for some time. I'll
take a look at that packaging as soon as practical. (hopefully this evening)
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Hi Gloria,
As noted elsewhere I've been playing catch up a bit here...
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Hi Michael,
Attached are my PyCon 2009 slides for the Kamaelia toturial I gave.
This is really helpful. The actual video taken at the time is now up at
the pycon video
On Monday 27 April 2009 02:44:00 Michael Sparks wrote:
Well, some benchmarking was recently done by Steve Wittber
Simon Wittber. Gah. Sorry Simon if you read this...
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**argd code to override the default values.
- cf http://www.kamaelia.org/InheritableDefaultValues
* Logic change in loop to make the code paths clearer.
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On Thursday 02 April 2009 00:01:21 Michael Sparks wrote:
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 23:49:09 Michael Sparks wrote:
OK, I've collated the TCP related bug fixes into a single branch here:
/branches/private_TB_TCPFixes20090316
OK, same regarding the UDP changes:
Details:
Branch
description of what needs doing - ie about
enabling code to actually get into the code tree. The current process is more
of a barrier than it should be, and needs tweaking.
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That's great to hear :-)
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I figured out how to use mercurial patch queues
(Axon.ThreadedComponent.threadedcomponent):
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On Tuesday 03 March 2009 19:26:57 Steve wrote:
Michael,
I was reviewing the TCPClient.py code.
Many thanks for this. As a preface to what follows, I've put a different
implementation into TCPClient - in line with my comments yesterday. The
reason is to allow TCPClient to continue
we've got to stage 1, and are now on stage 2.
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# Retry in a millisecond. Release CPU.
yield self.pause(timeout=0.001)
This would release the CPU significantly for this particular usecase. It would
also be useful in other components, but this one is topical :)
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2 3 should result in the same behaviour on your system, and I'm confused as
to why it doesn't at present. I think I need slightly more detail here to
help out fixing whatever is the issue.
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( TCPClient(www.google.com, 8000), ConsoleEchoer() ).run()
...
Which is (part of) why you're after timeouts etc, and go after that root
cause.
Michael, I'm starting to think that this whole TTL component that I've
made might be completely unneeded. I think I was just reacting to the
bugs
Need a way of switching off this behaviour.
Personally I think pro.3 outweighs everything else, but I don't generally like
reusing default behaviours.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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what you're doing before commenting.
One very odd thing which jumps out at me though is this:
yield 1
yield 1
...
yield 1
yield 1
...
yield 1
yield 1
Why the double yields ?
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just work, depending on what you're
aiming to
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However I won't come outright and say This will definitely be
perfect for
the simple reason I don't personally use Kamaelia on windows enough to
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Hi,
Imran Ali has now made the videos from Ignite available, so I've dropped a
blog about it here...
http://tinyurl.com/embracing-concurrency
... embedding the video slides there as well.
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in one direction without much
discussion or consensus.
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Naturally then it's simple to interface this to any other component...
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On Thursday 15 January 2009 10:42:28 Michael Sparks wrote:
At minimum, I would really appreciate knowing how this example
(the only example usage of WSGILikeTranslator) at the end of
Kamaelia/Protocol/HTTP/HTTPServer.py needs to be changed in
order for it to work:
I need to be clearer about
out of everything. (it also risks lowering quality rather than
raising) The key that take puts that (fun quality) back in is examples that
use the code.
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it Connected Servers instead,
to be a) consistent with the filename b) consistent with the fact that neither
SimpleServer nor ServerCore are actually limited to TCP based servers. (It'd
be a little bit of a pain at present to do some other sorts, but doable)
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The above comments btw are just to let you know what I'm thinking of what I'm
going to do next, rather than criticisms etc, and also to let you know that
this is still in progress. (spent most of this evening on this)
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likely to result
in mergeable code by talking to the team than if you don't. (ie less likely
to waste your time...)
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is helping with merge of his code, so I'm working on
those first.
If other people help me with reviewing merging their previous
efforts, then I'll be
able to get to other people's new ideas sooner.
Michael.
On Jan 3, 6:50 pm, Jason Baker jason.ba...@ttu.edu wrote:
On Jan 3, 12:40 pm, Jason Baker
0.8.12 was canned.
Next release will shift to the Y.Y.MM versioning methodology as
previously mentioned.
PEP 342 enhancements are not likely to occur until Python for Series
60 mobiles
supports PEP342. There's rumours of an update there, but I'm not
holding my breath.
Michael
@@ -425,6 +425,8
Merged.
On Jan 2, 12:32 am, Michael Sparks spark...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This branch is for merging a small collection of bug fixes/code improvements
which have also been languishing on private_MPS_Scratch for too long. The
specific changes are detailed below - they're all very small minor
be changing it
otherwise. If that's the case I'll work through other branches in the
meantime.
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but it's far from the end of the path.
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cd trunk/Code/Python
svn merge -r5924:HEAD
../../../private_MPS_MinorCollatedBugfixesImprovements .
svn ci
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cd trunk/Code/Python
svn merge -r5925:HEAD
../../../branches/private_MPS_PhysicsGraphImprovements .
svn ci
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Hi,
On Sunday 21 December 2008 20:08:11 Chong wrote:
private_CL_Topology3DWithParams is ready for review.
Many thanks for this. This is unlikely to get reviewed for a few days at least
for very obvious reasons :-)
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