Re: can someone access sparky and send me a email from there?

2007-12-29 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: So the part that applies to our situation and explains RR's mail rejection is RFC 1912 part 2.1 which says, For every IP address, there should be a matching PTR record in the in-addr.arpa domain. Note the should. I also contend that RFC 1912 fails to add something to

Re: www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again

2007-12-21 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: We're also running low on disk space. I did a little house cleaning and got the freespace above 10%, but I see that the majority of the space taken on the disk is by two instances of zope zope2.7 and zope2.8 . I don't know which is which, but someone should remove the

Re: Topic for October Meeting

2007-10-07 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: It's now Sunday night. No volunteer has stepped up to present, and Thursday is only 4 days away. What to do? How about an interactive panel on command line use. Get 2-4 panelists and one good keyboarder (to demonstrate ad-hoc topics).

Re: New Sparkplug

2007-09-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Neil Schneider wrote: I just updated DNS to add newspark. So we can call it by name. We also can give it a different name if anyone wishes to suggest one... that was definitely uninspired on my part. Or will we just rename it to

Re: New Sparkplug

2007-09-27 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: The Debian install is as bare as can be - done with debootstrap, and I've only added enhanced vim, sudo and SSH since. I suppose we simply need to install and configure Apache/Zope/Plone, Postfix and Mailman and then migrate data. I have created a file on

Re: Fwd: broken images on web pages (broken because of slow connection)

2007-09-19 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Carl Lowenstein wrote: Time to kick somebody off the KPLUG newbie list. Done before you even sent the message. He was also subscribed to -announce, but that has been removed too. I also sent a message to the person's site, so he knows that his auto-responder is broken. Hopefully, we were the

Re: please redirect [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-05 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Richard W. Ernst wrote: Would someone change the email forwarding of the treasurer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], to George? I tried, but it looked like someone beat me to it. I ran newaliases, and hopefully whatever prompted your request will be resolved. -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-04 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Stewart Stremler wrote: begin quoting John H. Robinson, IV as of Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 04:31:28PM -0700: Neil Schneider wrote: I thought maybe we could use irc channel for coordinating. We might have to do it in a separate channel where there's less traffic. chat.freenode.net

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-03 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: What will be required to get that started? I think we probably want a Debian 4.0 (etch) basic install and then those of us who want can begin setting up the software and testing. Coordinating may be a challenge. Thoughts on coordinating: admins that need to work:

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-03 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: I thought maybe we could use irc channel for coordinating. We might have to do it in a separate channel where there's less traffic. chat.freenode.net ##sparkplug -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Carl Lowenstein wrote: As of a few minutes ago, the KPLUG web site was not responding to a web browser. It responds to pings, and apparently the list server is working, since fresh items keep appearing. Restated. Thank you for noticing this. Does anybody have any sort of monitoring set up

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: As of a few minutes ago, the KPLUG web site was not responding to a web browser. It responds to pings, and apparently the list server is working, since fresh items keep appearing. Restated. Thank you for noticing this. I meant to say

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: As of a few minutes ago, the KPLUG web site was not responding to a web browser. It responds to pings, and apparently the list server is working, since fresh items keep appearing. Restated. Thank you

Re: RAM-a-lam-a-ding-dong (Sparky III is complete!)

2007-04-27 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: I checked the old email for room reservations and we have Room 306 reserved for May 3. I think it would be a great idea to announce and have a meeting to allow KPLUG members to actually see what our raffle money is being used for. I concur: May 3 is a *great* time

Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point [added [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

2007-04-05 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Hmmm, maybe it's already implemented? I think I'll add to the subject line of this email -- as a test message. http://www.kernel-panic.org/pipermail/kplug-steer/2007-April/003223.html !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD TITLE Helge has a

Re: Sparky's coming together

2007-04-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: The original order specs were for a pair of 2.0GHz dual core Xeon 5130's, and the cost for those is about $350/ea. Now we have the option of choosing the 2.0GHz quad core Xeon E5335 for about $730. This would leave one socket free for further expansion, and would

Re: Server quote

2007-02-18 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: I suggest we come to a consensus first. Do we use the $1920 version or the $2500 version? The 2500$ version. -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: proposal: KPLUG ssl CA to sign members cert

2007-02-13 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: John H. Robinson, IV wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Let's have a KPLUG (self-signed) CA KPLUG can/will sign member certs CAcert already does this, I am a CAcert assurer, and CAcert root certificates already exist in open source browsers. OK

Re: proposal: KPLUG ssl CA to sign members cert

2007-02-12 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Let's have a KPLUG (self-signed) CA KPLUG can/will sign member certs CAcert already does this, I am a CAcert assurer, and CAcert root certificates already exist in open source browsers. I contend that this is a solved problem. I do not see the value-added with

Re: Fwd: InstallFests in February

2007-02-06 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Carl Lowenstein wrote: I think this is not a spammer, merely a luser who has managed to get on a mailing list, possibly forwarded from someone who is really on the list. Or maybe forwarded by a bot. Without playing the challenge/response game, I don't know how to trace how he got the

Re: Can somebody delete my password rant

2007-01-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: I just sent a password rant and deleted all references to the university. It's probably stuck in the queue as the address isn't subscribed, so if somebody could just delete it, i'll repost from normal. I did not see any messages in the moderatiion queue. I seem to

Re: Can somebody delete my password rant

2007-01-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: However, I thought we were supposed to get a return message saying something like you are unsubscribed. Or was that getting abused to launch DoS attacks. It's mailman, I have no idea what mailman does. I find it finicky and opaque, personally. But, it is what we

Re: Can somebody delete my password rant

2007-01-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Andrew Lentvorski wrote: However, I thought we were supposed to get a return message saying something like you are unsubscribed. Or you can go ahead and get your rejection notice :) -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin

Re: Fwd: Announcing SCALE 5x

2006-12-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Steerage, Do we have a topic for January? If so, is it on the website? (I never look at the website . . .) I would like to have a key-signing, and CAcert signing (I am a CAcert Assurer, so I can validate other people). This could tie in with an openssl/gnupg presentation, or it could be a

January Meeting Topic

2006-12-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Wow, what a horrible subject line. Sorry about that. At least I remembered to take out the In-Reply-To: header. -john John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Steerage, Do we have a topic for January? If so, is it on the website? (I never look at the website . . .) I would like to have a key-signing

Re: Fwd: Announcing SCALE 5x

2006-12-25 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: SCALE is again around the corner. I have not spoken with the promoters nor organisers of the event, but we have been offered a booth in previous years. I have no reason to suspect that if we asked, we would be denied a booth. The question is, do we want a booth? We

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Gus Wirth wrote: There was some discussion at the December meeting about replacing the existing KPLUG server. I can't remember who got the last one, I think Joshua? Anyway, we have the funds to get a new one so I say Neil delegates this to whoever wants to volunteer and we go ahead and do

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: I'll put a quote together as soon as I can and post it to the list. We should slide in south of $2k. I like that price better. Me too. But someone had to get the number ball rolling. -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Admins and Steerage, I was looking into the mailman issue on sparky today. Our version could use some upgrading. We are currently holding our mailman package against upgrade. I have taken a copy of the currently installed mailman and placed it into ~root. I want to upgrade our mailman to the

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:08 AM, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: I have taken a copy of the currently installed mailman and placed it into ~root. I want to upgrade our mailman to the most recently released version that Debian provides, test it, then go yell at people

test

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
date -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:08 AM, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: If mailman breaks, in theory I could re-install the version that is currently installed and everything will Just Work. This is the same theory that states that everything will Just Work right after the upgrade, so

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Let's see if it did work! Welcome to the brave new world of the new mailman. There was some messages lost, that were all in the shunt directory. The all looked to be spam. -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-26 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: Is this a version that has been patched for the vulnerability? No... but mailman is no longer on hold, either. So as soon as it DOES come out, we will get it. Unless some enterprising soul (read: not me) wants to download, configure, compile, install, and customise

Re: Mailman vulnerability

2006-09-20 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: This came from the SAN security list. Mailman needs to be upgraded to 2.1.9 as soon as the Debian package maintainer makes it available. It isn't yet available in the apt repository. There is an update to mailman currently available, however mailman is currently a held

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: spam on your domain]

2006-09-01 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
We are seeing more spam on the wiki. Any thoughts on how to prevent it? -john - Forwarded message from Helge Fahrnberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] - one of my sites are being spammed with the following links: Original Message Subject:My Site Date: 1 Sep 2006

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: spam on your domain]

2006-09-01 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: We are seeing more spam on the wiki. Any thoughts on how to prevent it? The only idea I can think of is to have new registerees go through a manual approval process prior to havng editing/posting privledges. -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel

Re: rPath for KPLUG April

2006-04-09 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Jim, Yes, I can write up a note about rPath. I will also be happy to introduce them. I appologise for the thread breaking, but as you can see I am posting this from my @gmail account. Because this system is running sendmail. Yes, there is a debian chroot on it, but I have not fully migrated all

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rPath - Speaker at LUG]

2006-02-15 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: Lan Barnes wrote: ... and former RedHater and co-author of rpm, among other things. Former RedHater? So he's now a RedLover? Or at least a RedLiker? I presume you mean RedHatter? RedHatter and RedHare. Both equally insane. Never have tea with them. -john --

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rPath - Speaker at LUG]

2006-02-15 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: John H. Robinson, IV said: Neil Schneider wrote: Although I haven't had time to create announcements on the web site for these, I think that March will be the movie and we can schedule RPath for April. I need someone to send me personal emails for both

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rPath - Speaker at LUG]

2006-02-14 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
What do you guys think? Do we have anybody for March to speak? -john - Forwarded message from Brian Matsubara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - John, It was great to meet you at SCALE this past Saturday. Per our discussion, please let me know if we can get on the schedule to speak at your next

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject Line Tag]

2005-12-05 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Gus Wirth wrote: At 11:27 11/29/2005 -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote: Gus Wirth wrote: Don't do it. The tagging of messages in the header as spam is a function of Whoah...are we talking about tagging messages as spam or merely putting a tag in the subject to identify the mailing list such as

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject Line Tag]

2005-11-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Thoughts? I am not averse to subject line tags for -newbie. The big issue is that the mail server is forcing some messages into spam, and the filtering is not sufficient to prevent this. Since it is -newbie, I am far more likely to assist with the use of tags. The other lists I would be more

Re: KPLUG Logo

2005-09-19 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On 9/19/05, John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: The KPLUG logo that appears at the top of http://www.kernel-panic.org . Yeah, but there ought to be someplace on the kernel-panic web site that holds that logo. As far as resolution

Re: [Fwd: Your Account is Suspended For Security Reasons]

2005-07-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: Anybody know anything about this?? -- Original Message -- Subject: Your Account is Suspended For Security Reasons From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Mon, July 11, 2005 8:44 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@sparkplug.kernel-panic.org: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender]

2005-05-13 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Lan Barnes wrote: FYI What are we supposed to know? -john -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: SDCS bylaws

2005-05-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Lan Barnes wrote: I (with my kids) will make every effort to be at Gus's tomorrow evening. I know we have a lot to do during this exceptional period. But I'm really hoping when it settles down we can get this operation on a benign autopilot course. I will try to make sure your kids have some

Re: SDCS bylaws

2005-05-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: Stewart Stremler wrote: I would run so long as I didn't take a seat away from another SIG. The one thing I wanted that didn't get done in the bylaw/SIG guidelines change was to have the board itself reworked so that it has the four officer positions, and all other

Re: Spoke to Greg Skalka

2005-05-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Lan Barnes wrote: I hadn't heard about their unwillingness to sign the SIG agreement, which would seem like a prerequisite for having their money returned under the bylaws. The board can vote to spend SDCS money they way they want. UCHUG not having agreed to the SIG guidelines is not a

Re: [Fwd: Re: SDCS bylaws]

2005-05-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Lance wrote: I have been corrected. It only takes 20 people to make a quorom in the New SDCS. You must have misheard me. Current SDPCUG membership is 57. 57 + 36 + 10 = 103. We would need 21 people. I can usually guarantee about 11 or 12. Isn't there also a South Bay users group? It

Re: SDCS bylaws

2005-05-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Neil Schneider wrote: John H. Robinson, IV said: The SIG Guidelines are ambiguous as to when the separation is official. Also true. There is in paragraph 3) stipulations that the SIG must turn over all assets to the SDCS within 30 days. It does not say that that is when the SIG

Re: list moderation / kplug server/services management

2005-04-15 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: On Apr 14, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Neil Schneider wrote: In this vein I have set up RCS directories for most things I've changed from CLI. I think it's probably a good idea, since we have multiple people doing admin work and if you check in your changes, you can also

Re: list moderation / kplug server/services management

2005-04-14 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Gregory Ruiz-Ade wrote: I think what's making this painful for us is that there's no clear definitions of who's responsible for what on sparkplug. We have a semblance of a list, that is the sudoers file. Of course, there is no separation of tasks (ie: OS maitenance, website maintance,

Re: List configurations

2005-01-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: If you think a change should be made, email me and request it or post your suggestion to this list. If it's an appropriate change that won't COMPLETELY CHANGE BEHAVIOR OF THE LISTS, I'll put it into effect. Could we please fix the attachement issue? I am not sure what

Re: List configurations

2005-01-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Lan Barnes wrote: My MUA ia mutt. My email is composed in vi. The forwarded email was one I had written earlier. I can forward another text message, but not recreate the original because ... I just don't have time. What? You don;t save outgoing messages in a forced-carbon-copy methodology?

Re: List configurations

2005-01-27 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Joshua Penix wrote: If you think a change should be made, email me and request it or post your suggestion to this list. -- KPLUG-Steer mailing list KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer Please fix the footers such that there