KR> dual plugs

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have a pair of heads for 2180 VW and it appears that they are machined for 
dual plugs but I am bit confused because the secondary holes are drilled and 
have tubes that come up into the valve cover area. I don't see how plugs can be 
used there unless the tubes are supposed to be extended up through the the 
valve cover. The holes are opposite the original plug holes. 
Does anybody know if these are actually for plugs or how this is supposed to 
work? 
Thanks 
Bob 
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KR> opinions on spars

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

HI All; 
I tried to post some pictures of spars that I picked up in a parts buy and am 
wondering about thoughts on cleaning these up for eventual use. 
I have been sanding some and it seems to work fairly well but very tedious. 
It does not seem like mould but I could be wrong, is this something anyone has 
experience with? 
These were not stored in a heated facility. 
Here is a link to a video I took of them. https://youtu.be/tygecyU-nSA 

I have some other videos there as well taken from my Preceptor N3 and also my 
Ultra Pup which is my current magic carpet. 
Thanks 
Bob R 
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KR> Archives

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Is there a new link to the archives? I keep getting a not found message when I 
click on the link at the KRNet Page. 
Thanks 
Bob 
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Re: KR> Archives

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks to both John and Mark for the info
.Bob

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From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: m...@n56ml.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 6:56:52 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Archives

Robert Russell wrote:

> Is there a new link to the archives? I keep getting a not found message when 
> I click on the link at the KRNet Page. 


There is a new archive link now.  I'll update the website tonight.  The
Tugantek archive has been down for months, and we're unsure if it'll
ever be back up.  Tom's been notified, but hasn't managed to get it back
up yet.  John Bouyea stepped up to the plate and reformatted a LOT of
email files to get us all the way back to 2003, so there should be 14
years of KRnet email in the archive now, and we have a few left to load,
back into the late 90's.  I'll fix the links tonight.


Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com



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KR> disassembly

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I guess I should have asked also n my previous email if anyone has had to open 
up box spars or remove the stub wings or any other disassembly with good 
results. By that I mean to be able to then re use those parts. 
I am wondering how much of a project can be saved if I have to take it apart at 
all. 
Thanks 
Bob 
Winnipeg 
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Re: KR> DAR inspections

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I am kind of thinking that if I do buy it, it would just be for the parts such 
as 2 Great Plains engines landing gear, canopy, wing attach fittings, cowling,  
controls such as bell cranks etc.
There is enough value there for those items and anything else I could salvage 
would be gravy. i.e like maybe the fuselage but if not just plan to build all 
that from scratch.
Bob 
Wpg.

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From: "Paul Visk via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
Cc: "Paul Visk" <ppaul...@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:47:11 AM
Subject: Re: KR> DAR inspections

Here in the US. It is NOT recommended to buy a project under construction 
without a builders log.  The thing is you have to prove that 51% of the 
airplane by amateurs and without a log there's no way to prove.  From what I've 
heard Canada has a much more stringent process. My opinion, do not buy it 
without a builders log. You're buying nothing but a problem. 

Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
-------- Original message From: Robert Russell via KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 1/22/17  8:05 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet 
<krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: pi...@mymts.net Subject: KR> DAR inspections 
Hi All; 
I am considering a project in the U.S. that has no documentation whatsoever and 
am wondering about DAR inspections. 
I want to import this project into Canada and our inspections require a pre 
cover (before box spars etc,are closed in) . 
What I am wondering is if I might find a number or something that shows it was 
done in the U.S . 
In Canada each component is stamped or stickered to show it has been done. 
The project is fairly complete all spars are closed, wings closed etc.although 
it would still meet 51% requirement here in Canada. 
I f I can show the inspections I an import as parts and then continue it. 
Any thoughts about this? 
Thanks 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Canada 
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Re: KR> DAR inspections

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks 
that is very helpful although I might be single after that!
Bob
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From: Patrick Driscoll via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Patrick Driscoll 
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:56:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: KR> DAR inspections

If push comes to shove, your wife's iron will do the job. I have removed a 
4' section from the side by using an iron. (no steam) to heat the plywood 
over the glue line and then prying up the wood and holding it up for a few 
seconds to keep it from sticking again when you move on to another area. It 
took about one hour to remove the side. (about 2' x 4').
Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
patric...@usfamily.net
www.pensbypat.com
If you can read this, Thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran 


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Re: KR> Archives

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

No problems accessing from work... nice job guys
Bob

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From: "Robert Russell via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
Cc: pi...@mymts.net
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:09:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Archives


I have not had any trouble accessing it from home,will try from work tomorrow.
It looks good.
Bob
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From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org>
Cc: "Mark Langford" <m...@n56ml.com>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Archives

 >> Is there a new link to the archives?

The new KRnet email archive is at
https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/.  I've had problems 
accessing it from work, likely because they think it's a malware site or 
something, so there may be issues still, but we're working on it.

Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
http://www.n56ml.com


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Re: KR> Archives

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

I have not had any trouble accessing it from home,will try from work tomorrow.
It looks good.
Bob
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To: "KRnet" 
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Archives

 >> Is there a new link to the archives?

The new KRnet email archive is at
https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/.  I've had problems 
accessing it from work, likely because they think it's a malware site or 
something, so there may be issues still, but we're working on it.

Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
http://www.n56ml.com


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KR> stall speed

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

What are realistic stall speeds with flaps? 
Bob R

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Re: KR> stall speed

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Great video Larry... I will be flying it off a grass strip. 
We have  2500 ft and also 3000 ft runways so hoping that will be fine but I 
will likely use it all.
Bob

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From: "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
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Cc: "Larry Flesner" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:41:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR> stall speed

At 05:59 PM 1/25/2017, you wrote:
>What are realistic stall speeds with flaps?
>Bob R


Too many variables, the biggest is your ASI.  Actual speed is 
probably in the 45 to 55 mph range depending on size of wing on your 
KR and weight.  On the first flight, after you get comfortable , go 
to altitude (your should already be there)  , in level flight slowly 
reduce power to idle and let the plane decelerate.  Have the 
altimeter  pegged on a number and hold it perfectly level.  As you 
approach the stall you will probably feel slight buffeting.  Note the 
indicated airspeed when the nose drops and recover.  Multiply the 
read by 1.3 and use that for your approach speed.

My KR gives it up at about 55 indicated but it is heavy and shorter 
then stock wings.  Light weight and longer Diehl type wings will be 
slower.  My approach speed with those numbers would be about 72 mph 
but it feels more comfortable at 80 mph with speed brake full out.  I 
get a bit of extra float and make wheel landings but can easily 
handle 2500 foot runways.  At less than 80 for me with speed brake 
out it slows rather quickly in the flare and things happen rather 
quickly from flare to touchdown.  I like to settle on like a feather, 
not like a belly flop at the swimming pool. 
:-)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdgxVgPNAk  and go to the 2:40 
mark of the video.

You'll get to know the comfortable speed after a couple of landings.

Larry Flesner 


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Re: KR> stall speed

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Thanks Mark

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Cc: "Mark Langford" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 8:18:11 PM
Subject: Re: KR> stall speed

Bob Russell wrote:

 > What are realistic stall speeds with flaps?

As Larry said, you'll want to go to altitude and stall it several times 
to get the "indicated" stall speed, because airspeed indicators are 
notoriously inaccurate at low speeds...even the fancy new electronic 
versions that I've used are off at the lower end of the spectrum. For 
example, N891JF stalls "hard" (nose over) at about 36 mph indicated, and 
that's on the MGL iEFIS.  This isn't far from what Jim Faughn reported 
in his "how to land a KR" treatise, but those are indicated.  GPS stall 
speed is closer to the low fifties, at the altitudes that I practice 
stalls at.

If you are asking what's the difference in stall speed with 
"plans-built" flaps, my guess would be about two mph, three mph at the 
most, based on my experience with the much larger flaps on N56ML.  KR2S 
N56ML stalls at 57 mph with barn door flaps, 62 mph clean at "average" 
loading conditions.  KR2 N891JF stalls slightly slower, and even the 
belly board drops stall speed 1.5-2 mph.  These are all GPS speeds, 
taken on calm days in two directions probably at 4000' or so, so it'll 
be a little less nearer to sea level...which you don't want to do.  You 
can extrapolate it though...about a 2% difference per thousand feet. 
You probably already know this though.

More stall speeds are listed at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , 
although their accuracy is not assured.  Speaking of which, nobody's 
sent me information for a newly minted airplane for probably five years. 
  No new KRs are flying for five years?  Please do some testing and send 
me your numbers...

Mark Langford
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KR> Ohio Kr guys

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Hi; 
Any KR2 owners builders in Marion Ohio area? 
Bob R 
Winnipeg 
Canada 

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KR> John Shaffer

[Robert Russell via KRnet]

Does anyone know if John Shaffer is still active.I am going to Ohio to pick 
something up close to Fremont, and thought I might try to see his KR. 
Bob R 
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