Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-20 Thread Takahiro Hirofuchi
Hello, 2009/9/30 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. o storage live migration Sorry for a bit off topic. But, my special NBD server can do this independently of VMM implementations. See

Re: Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:53 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: So at this point, I think it's a mistake to include raw socket support. If the goal is to improve networking usability such that it just works as a root user, let's incorporate a default network script that creates a bridge or

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-15 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 02:10:00PM -0700, Sridhar Samudrala wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:

Re: Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-15 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:53:56PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: I would be much more inclined to consider taking raw and improving the performance long term if guest-host networking worked. This appears to be a fundamental limitation though and I think it's something that will forever

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 08 October 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: Jens Osterkamp wrote: On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: Please add to this list and I'll collect it all and post it somewhere. What about Or Gerlitz' raw backend driver ? I did not see it go in yet, or

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:21:04AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Jens Osterkamp wrote: On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: o VMState conversion -- I expect most of the pc target to be completed o qdev conversion -- I hope that we'll get most of the pc target

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony Liguori
Arnd Bergmann wrote: There are two reasons why I think this backend is important: - As an easy way to provide isolation between guests (private ethernet port aggregator, PEPA) and external enforcement of network priviledges (virtual ethernet port aggregator, VEPA) using the macvlan

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:53:55AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Arnd Bergmann wrote: There are two reasons why I think this backend is important: - As an easy way to provide isolation between guests (private ethernet port aggregator, PEPA) and external enforcement of network priviledges

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 03:09:28PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Thursday 08 October 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: Jens Osterkamp wrote: On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: Please add to this list and I'll collect it all and post it somewhere. What

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony Liguori
Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. I'm generally inclined to oppose the functionality as I don't think it offers any advantages over the existing backends. I

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. I'm generally inclined to oppose the functionality as I don't

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Jamie Lokier
Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. I'm generally inclined to oppose

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works with new APIs, etc. Let me post it

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-14 Thread Sridhar Samudrala
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an

Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0)

2009-10-14 Thread Anthony Liguori
Sridhar Samudrala wrote: Can't we bind the raw socket to the tap interface instead of the physical interface and allow the bridge config to work. But why use the raw interface instead of tap directly. Let me summarize the discussion so far: Raw sockets Pros: o User specifies a network

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-08 Thread Anthony Liguori
Jens Osterkamp wrote: On Wednesday 30 September 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: o VMState conversion -- I expect most of the pc target to be completed o qdev conversion -- I hope that we'll get most of the pc target completely converted to qdev o storage live migration o switch to SeaBIOS

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-05 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:04:57 +0200 Avi Kivity a...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/01/2009 11:13 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote: If we're going to support the protocol for 0.12, I'd like to most of the code merged by the end of October. Four weeks.. Not so much time, but let's try.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-05 Thread Avi Kivity
On 10/05/2009 02:43 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote: Are you using a standard json parser with your test script? That's an additional validation. I'm using Python's json module, but I could run one of the checkers listed in the json's page for each test, before the Python's module kicks in.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-03 Thread Avi Kivity
On 10/01/2009 11:13 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote: If we're going to support the protocol for 0.12, I'd like to most of the code merged by the end of October. Four weeks.. Not so much time, but let's try. There are two major issues that may delay QMP. Firstly, we are still on the

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-02 Thread TAKEDA, toshiya
Anthony Liguori さんは書きました: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it. I'd like to shorten the timeline for

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-10-01 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:05:16 -0500 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: Avi Kivity wrote: On 09/30/2009 01:54 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Avi Kivity
On 09/30/2009 01:54 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it. I'd like to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Tokarev
Anthony Liguori wrote: [] Here's a short list of things I expect to see for this release (target-i386 centric). Please add or comment on items that you'd either like to see in the release or are planning on working on. [..] o guest SMP support for KVM Hmm. What is this, can you elaborate

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Avi Kivity
On 09/30/2009 10:53 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote: Anthony Liguori wrote: [] Here's a short list of things I expect to see for this release (target-i386 centric). Please add or comment on items that you'd either like to see in the release or are planning on working on. [..] o guest SMP support

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Hi, On 30.09.2009 01:54, Anthony Liguori wrote: Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd also like to try to enumerate some features for this release. Here's a short list of things I expect to see for this release (target-i386 centric). o switch to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Hi Isaku, Isaku Yamahata wrote: o newer chipset (which is based on Q35 chipset) o multiple pci bus o PCI express (MMCONFIG) o PCI express hot plug (not acpi based) o PCI express switch emulator Although there is no PCIe emulated device at the moment, this will be a fundamental

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's certainly reasonable for 0.12. -- Regards, Anthony Liguori -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Avi Kivity wrote: On 09/30/2009 01:54 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Hi, On 30.09.2009 01:54, Anthony Liguori wrote: Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd also like to try to enumerate some features for this release. Here's a short list of things I expect to see for this release

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:41:23 +0200 Avi Kivity a...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/30/2009 01:54 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Amit Shah
On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's certainly reasonable for 0.12. The kernel

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:03:20AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi Isaku, Isaku Yamahata wrote: o newer chipset (which is based on Q35 chipset) o multiple pci bus o PCI express (MMCONFIG) o PCI express hot plug (not acpi based) o PCI express switch emulator Although there is no PCIe

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Luiz Capitulino wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:54:53 -0500 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: I think aiming for early to mid-December would give us roughly a 3 month cycle and would align well with some of the Linux distribution cycles. I'd like to limit things to a single -rc

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Liguori
Amit Shah wrote: On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel drivers straightened out, I think it's certainly

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Amit Shah
On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [09:47:22], Anthony Liguori wrote: Amit Shah wrote: On (Wed) Sep 30 2009 [08:04:17], Anthony Liguori wrote: Amit Shah wrote: On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: o multiport virtio-console support Assuming we can get the kernel

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:03:23 +0200 Fred Leeflang fr...@dutchie.org wrote: 2009/9/30 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com Luiz Capitulino wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:54:53 -0500 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: I think aiming for early to mid-December would give us

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Juan Quintela
Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: Luiz Capitulino wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:54:53 -0500 Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: I think aiming for early to mid-December would give us roughly a 3 month cycle and would align well with some of the Linux distribution cycles.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Blue Swirl
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2...@gmx.net wrote: On 30.09.2009 15:07, Anthony Liguori wrote: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: However, to run coreboot on Qemu with the same init sequence as on simplified real hardware, we need Cache-as-RAM (CAR)

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-30 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 09/30/09 16:45, Anthony Liguori wrote: One reason I branch is because some people care a bit less about releases so it makes the process non-disruptive to them. If the other maintainers agreed though, I would certainly like to have the master branch essentially frozen for the week before the

Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Anthony Liguori
Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it. I'd like to shorten the timeline for 0.12.0 a good bit. The 0.10

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around.  I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Anthony Liguori
Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Anthony Liguori aligu...@us.ibm.com wrote: Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think

Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:54:53PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of

Re: Release plan for 0.12.0

2009-09-29 Thread Amit Shah
On (Tue) Sep 29 2009 [18:54:53], Anthony Liguori wrote: Hi, Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0. I'd like to do a few things different this time around. I don't think the -rc process went very well as I don't think we got more testing out of it. I'd