Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-12 Thread Yury Tarasievich
In a modern world, I think it might even be the time to do away with the locale-language connection. Even the locale data regulation span might be reduced somewhat. More, with the major culture-data-employing entities (CLDR, Google, what-have-you) all having their outlooks competitively

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-12 Thread Nagy Ákos
2013.03.11. 0:23 keltezéssel, Christian Lohmaier írta: Hi Jelle, *, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jelle Mulder pjmul...@xs4all.nl wrote: [...] and probably the odd 10% of all world population that can consider themselves immigrants. I disagree here. Why do they use a OS they cannot

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Jānis
Citēts Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:23:04 +0100: Even when the language of the OS is not the target language of your application, one can assume that the person using the OS at least understands the OS language. Everything else is a corner case.

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann sun 10.mar 2013 22:23, skrifaði Christian Lohmaier: Hi Jelle, *, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jelle Mulder pjmul...@xs4all.nl wrote: [...] Well the point I'm trying to make is that the installer is completely localised. Yes, I fully understand. But while I see it is a problem for

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Andras Timar
Hi, A few facts about Windows installer of LibreOffice: It is a single MSI file - on purpose. It is simpler and more useful that old solution with preinstaller, setup.exe, several transforms etc. MSI format has some limitations. It is not an executable, it is a database. Windows itself contains

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Joan Montané
2013/3/11 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com It is not possible to include a language selector UI in the MSI database. The language of the MSI database is determined by Windows before the first dialog comes up. We could use a setup.exe maybe. But then we would not have a single file MSI

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
We can always switch to NSIS which is truly open source. Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Joan Montané j...@montane.cat wrote: 2013/3/11 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com It is not possible to include a language selector UI in the MSI database. The

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Bauer
This reminds me a bit of Android actually. I use an app called custom locale to get around the frustrating force-locale issue in order to force various apps to show up in Gaelic but that aside, it has a bizarre impact on the weather app. It cause the app to fluctuare between English and Gaelic

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: We can always switch to NSIS which is truly open source. Yaron Shahrabani Well, I'd recommend Unicode NSIS instead of traditional NSIS. Unicode NSIS http://www.scratchpaper.com/ AbiWord switched to Unicode NSIS to

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: We can always switch to NSIS which is truly open source. Yaron Shahrabani Well, I'd recommend Unicode NSIS instead of traditional

Fwd: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-11 Thread Anton Meixome
There's of course also the scenario of a locale you cannot select on any OS but which has a LO localisation. Like Oromo, Kashmiri or Bodo which I cannot find in the locales on offer in Windows 7 but which have LO localizations. It's a more general situation than the people here are

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013-03-10 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jelle, *, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jelle Mulder pjmul...@xs4all.nl wrote: [...] Well the point I'm trying to make is that the installer is completely localised. Yes, I fully understand. But while I see it is a problem for /you/, I doubt that this szenario is affecting the masses.