Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Zeki Bildirici
2012/7/29 Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu: The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ and ] keys. All translators should check their keyboard layout to see if it is possible to enter the Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] combinations, otherwise it must be added to the source.

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Andras Timar [mailto:tima...@gmail.com] Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:35:45 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ] 2012/7/29 Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu: The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ and ] keys. All

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Bauer
I note there hasn't been any comment on my suggestion of a LO-wide tool to allow the user to set their own shortcuts... Michael 31/07/2012 20:35, sgrìobh Zeki Bildirici: because [ and ] are already key combinations as the same reason Michael Bauer said above. Although i've looked to MS

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
[mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org] To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:12:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ] I note there hasn't been any comment on my suggestion of a LO-wide tool to allow the user to set their own shortcuts... Michael 31

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Michael Bauer
Hm I really don't mean to be sarcastic but - like anyone BUT a poweruser knows any shortcut beyond ctrl c/v/z? If you hit Google Scholar, you find loads of studies which show that on the whole, people don't use them much (like this one

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Jon Lachmann
shortcuts should in my opinion be that good that only very specific user cases need to change them. /Jon - Original Message - From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org] To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:21:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-31 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Sarcasm in out, with that logic many bugs in bugzilla can be marked as invalid, since most users do not use this or that function of LO. We have a very simple problem here and before flaming wars start we must state it clearly: two shortcuts defined that only (or mostly only) English-typing

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-29 Thread Michael Bauer
I'm on English Win7 here with English as my locale but a German keyboard which has the square brackets on ALTGR 8 and 9 too so I don't quite see that working on German keyboards either. Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout that seems to be the case for many Northern European

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-29 Thread Jon Lachmann
29/07/2012 13:05 Michael Bauer: I may be being dim here but what's the point of this when CTRL +/- already increase the zoom system-wide? It is not to change zoom-level but to change the selected font size! //Jon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org

[libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-28 Thread Jon Lachmann
Hi Andras, * Concerning the keyboard shortcuts to resize the font in the bug below; i can see that you (Andras) added shortcuts for the swedish version, great! The thing I am thinking of is other languages with keyboards short of the [ and ] keys. All translators should check their keyboard

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl+[ and ]

2012-07-28 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
Hey guys, as far as I can tell the Standard version of MSOffice uses the following keys: Ctrl+Shift+ and (Increase and decrease accordingly). Kind regards, Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Jon Lachmann j...@lachmann.nu wrote: Hi Andras, * Concerning