Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/25/2014 05:00 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/25/2014 12:41 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: is the ISO code and text correct shown in the dialog box? FF/IE/GC ...redirect=hard correct... FF/IE/GC ...redirect=soft dialog box no. 1 under Mode says hard correct... FF/IE/GC

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
By default the mode and text from the file msg_prop_l10n.js will be used. To be able to override this you can use all 3 ways: http://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=none http://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft http://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=hard Hi Marcus, I'm not sure about this.

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/26/2014 02:28 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: By default the mode and text from the file msg_prop_l10n.js will be used. To be able to override this you can use all 3 ways: http://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=none http://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Yes, please tell me the output of the alert boxes when using these URLs: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_url.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_url.html?redirect=none http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_url.html?redirect=soft

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
OK, it's still pt-PT. Please test again and tell me only the ISO code in the alert boxes. Still pt-PT. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/26/2014 04:50 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: OK, it's still pt-PT. Please test again and tell me only the ISO code in the alert boxes. Still pt-PT. OK, new changes. Please test again. What has changed? Thanks Marcus

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
On 26-07-2014 16:30, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/26/2014 04:50 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: OK, it's still pt-PT. Please test again and tell me only the ISO code in the alert boxes. Still pt-PT. OK, new changes. Please test again. What has changed? Nothing. All four links look the same.

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/26/2014 05:34 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: On 26-07-2014 16:30, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/26/2014 04:50 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: OK, it's still pt-PT. Please test again and tell me only the ISO code in the alert boxes. Still pt-PT. OK, new changes. Please test again. What

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Thanks - also for your patience. I thank you for your patience and trouble. Again, check this folder http://people.apache.org/%7Epmralbuquerque/Images/Latest_redirect/ for images (there was a missing /b but it's corrected). I believe all is fine now.:-) Have a nice weekend. Regards, Pedro.

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/26/2014 06:07 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: Thanks - also for your patience. I thank you for your patience and trouble. Again, check this folder http://people.apache.org/%7Epmralbuquerque/Images/Latest_redirect/ for images (there was a missing/b but it's corrected). yes, I've

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-25 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
is the ISO code and text correct shown in the dialog box? FF/IE/GC ...redirect=hard correct... FF/IE/GC ...redirect=soft dialog box no. 1 under Mode says hard correct... FF/IE/GC ...redirect=none dialog box no. 1 under Mode says hard correct... Seems the language setting in the

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-25 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/25/2014 12:41 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: is the ISO code and text correct shown in the dialog box? FF/IE/GC ...redirect=hard correct... FF/IE/GC ...redirect=soft dialog box no. 1 under Mode says hard correct... FF/IE/GC ...redirect=none dialog box no. 1 under Mode says hard

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-24 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
Here's the outcome of my tests: Firefox ...redirect=hard dialog box no. 1 (ISO code) OK dialog box no. 2 (URL) OK dialog box no. 3 (redirect mode) OK redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/lt/; Firefox ...redirect=soft dialog box no. 1 (ISO code) OK dialog box no. 2 (URL) OK

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-24 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/24/2014 06:01 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: Here's the outcome of my tests: Firefox ...redirect=hard dialog box no. 1 (ISO code) OK dialog box no. 2 (URL) OK dialog box no. 3 (redirect mode) OK redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/lt/; Firefox ...redirect=soft dialog box

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/21/2014 12:39 AM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: You're already coming up with a solution! That's all that matters. A shortcut to the local subsite and a simultaneous option to visit the global website is not a contradiction of terms, even if it may constitute a real technical challenge.

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-23 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
Thanks, Marcus. Here are the results: In Firefox, the link re-directs to http://www.openoffice.org/lt/. The same thing happens in Internet Explorer. In Crome, the link does work and I can confirm that I can choose all the languages, including English (en). Regards, Aivaras 2014.07.23

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/23/2014 10:30 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: Thanks, Marcus. Here are the results: In Firefox, the link re-directs to http://www.openoffice.org/lt/. The same thing happens in Internet Explorer. In Crome, the link does work and I can confirm that I can choose all the languages,

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-21 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Em 20-07-2014 19:48, Marcus (OOo) escreveu: Am 07/18/2014 10:21 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:48 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:40 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Now the text is localizable in

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/21/2014 09:30 AM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: Em 20-07-2014 19:48, Marcus (OOo) escreveu: Am 07/18/2014 10:21 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:48 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:40 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-21 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
If you want to see the English string in Portuguese, then please give me the translation: This site is also available in Português [Europeu] (pt). Just click this text to get redirected.. Hi Marcus, here it is: Este site também está disponível em Português [Europeu] (pt). Clique neste

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/21/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Pedro Albuquerque: If you want to see the English string in Portuguese, then please give me the translation: This site is also available in Português [Europeu] (pt). Just click this text to get redirected.. Hi Marcus, here it is: Este site também está

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/18/2014 10:21 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:48 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:40 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Now the text is localizable in the /msg_prop_l10n.js file. Additionally it's

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
Thanks, Marcus! Aivaras 2014.07.20 21:48, Marcus (OOo) rašė: Am 07/18/2014 10:21 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:48 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:40 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Now the text

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
OK, with the current redirect feature I can no longer visit the global website, although I can visit all the local subsites. Hm, I would like to retain the ability to visit the global website. Does that mean we need an en or en-US subsite? Regards, Aivaras 2014.07.20 21:48, Marcus (OOo)

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Aivaras Stepukonis wrote: OK, with the current redirect feature I can no longer visit the global website, although I can visit all the local subsites. Hm, I would like to retain the ability to visit the global website. Does that mean we need an en or en-US subsite? Yes, this is exactly what I

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/20/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Aivaras Stepukonis wrote: OK, with the current redirect feature I can no longer visit the global website, although I can visit all the local subsites. Hm, I would like as far as I've understood you, this was the wish. to retain the ability to

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-20 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
You're already coming up with a solution! That's all that matters. A shortcut to the local subsite and a simultaneous option to visit the global website is not a contradiction of terms, even if it may constitute a real technical challenge. Regards, Aivaras 2014.07.21 00:22, Marcus (OOo)

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-18 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/13/2014 05:48 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/13/2014 05:40 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Now the text is localizable in the /msg_prop_l10n.js file. Additionally it's possible to set the redirect method This is

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-13 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/13/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: I'm completely fine with scenario no. 2. OK Where we seem to diverge is on scenario no. 1: for the vast majority of Lithuanian visitors www.openoffice.org = www.openoffice.org/lt. Asking them whether they prefer info in Lithuanian instead

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-13 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis | Apache OpenOffice
Simple and flexible. Many thanks, Marcus! Regards, Aivaras 2014.07.13 16:28, Marcus (OOo) rašė: Now the text is localizable in the /msg_prop_l10n.js file. Additionally it's possible to set the redirect method: hard = Don't show a message, just redirect. soft = Show a message and redirect on

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Now the text is localizable in the /msg_prop_l10n.js file. Additionally it's possible to set the redirect method This is perfect for me. Thanks for this nice development and in general for all improvements and

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/10/2014 12:21 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/07/2014 11:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means to split-up that some languages get a redirecting and some not? Hm, I don't like this idea of special treatment. I was the one to suggest this. I'll

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've created a little test webpage to make my suggestion more visible (of course graphic, color and text can be discussed). http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Seems a good, non-invasive solution. Indeed automatic redirection has the problem that the

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2014 01:49 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've created a little test webpage to make my suggestion more visible (of course graphic, color and text can be discussed). http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index_redirect.html Seems a good, non-invasive solution. Indeed

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
2014.07.12 18:57, Marcus (OOo) rašė: if you want to go to a different NL website then just use the language box on top right. Well, why not the opposite: In the rear event that, say, a Lithuanian visitor wants to get the info not in Lithuanian but in some other language, say, English,

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus (OOo) wrote: if you want to go to a different NL website then just use the language box on top right. The issue is clear, right? If I am in Lithuania and I want to see the English site, with the forced redirect (the other option) in place I cannot do so unless we implement further

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/12/2014 11:33 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: 2014.07.12 18:57, Marcus (OOo) rašė: if you want to go to a different NL website then just use the language box on top right. Well, why not the opposite: In the rear event that, say, a Lithuanian visitor wants to get the info not in

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/13/2014 12:27 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: if you want to go to a different NL website then just use the language box on top right. The issue is clear, right? If I am in Lithuania and I want to see the English site, with the forced redirect (the other option) in

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
I'm completely fine with scenario no. 2. Where we seem to diverge is on scenario no. 1: for the vast majority of Lithuanian visitors www.openoffice.org = www.openoffice.org/lt. Asking them whether they prefer info in Lithuanian instead of English will likely be taken as an unnecessary

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-10 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Em 09-07-2014 23:21, Marcus (OOo) escreveu: Am 07/07/2014 11:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means to split-up that some languages get a redirecting and some not? Hm, I don't like this idea of special treatment. I was the one to suggest this. I'll

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-10 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
I'm not sure I'm understanding Marcus' concerns correctly. We already have redirecting on the website. On the download page, visitors from Lithuania are offered to download the LT version of AOO - Lithuanian (Lietuvių) (lt) - as their first option. This is a good practice as for the majority

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/07/2014 11:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means to split-up that some languages get a redirecting and some not? Hm, I don't like this idea of special treatment. I was the one to suggest this. I'll explain a bit. The Italian website for example is

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-07 Thread Tal Daniel
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 30/06/2014 Pedro Albuquerque wrote: the Portuguese-Pt subsite http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ is up-to-date and ready for redirecting. [...] I don't know if reliable solutions exist, besides some workarounds that can be easily found online

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/07/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: This means to split-up that some languages get a redirecting and some not? Hm, I don't like this idea of special treatment. I was the one to suggest this. I'll explain a bit. The Italian website for example is reasonably up-to-date for the main parts, but it

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/06/2014 Pedro Albuquerque wrote: the Portuguese-Pt subsite http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ is up-to-date and ready for redirecting. (Hello again, Marcus! A lot of ongoing site discussions on the l10n list lately...) I doubt we can do anything server-side on the Apache infrastructure. So

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2014 02:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 30/06/2014 Pedro Albuquerque wrote: the Portuguese-Pt subsite http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ is up-to-date and ready for redirecting. (Hello again, Marcus! A lot of ongoing site discussions on the l10n list lately...) ;-) I doubt we can

Re: Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Bauer
As long as that does not *replace* a manual selection option, fine. But doing this only via force locale is a death-blow to content in many medium to small locales because most of them do not have localized OS or browsers or they're not widespread (yet). Michael 30/06/2014 18:58, sgrìobh

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-06-30 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Hi, the Portuguese-Pt subsite https://www.openoffice.org/pt/ is up-to-date and ready for redirecting. Thank you. Regards, Pedro. Em 30-06-2014 18:58, Aivaras Stepukonis escreveu: I think the easiest procedure for this would be for each native-lang team to report back to L10N stating their

Re: Website: Detecting Visitor's Locale

2014-06-28 Thread Pedro Albuquerque
Em 28-06-2014 12:14, Andrea Pescetti escreveu: On 27/06/2014 Aivaras Stepukonis wrote: Wouldn't it be great for the website to automatically detect the visitor's locale and open the website in his/her language? It would. But before doing that we should probably make sure that the localized