I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase
a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished
lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is
not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If
Don't know why this is on both Lace and Lace-chat, as it's clearly a lace
topic, so I'm restricting my reply to Lace to save getting it twice.
A book every time!
I had a choice of Jane Akinson's book Pattern Design for Torchon Lace new
on CD or secondhand in book form - I chose the book.
My personal choice would be a glossy, coloured printed book for
perusing in bed - with a CD of the prickings in various grid sizes
and the photos so I can enlarge them on the screen to see just how
they did that bit
Hows that for decadent?
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
[EMAIL
Hi Carole (and everyone)
I can see that there are good points about both. With the CD there is
the fact that it takes up almost no space (but would I lose it?) Just
printing off the prickings would be great, no scanning or photocopying.
But even if you could blow up the illustrations you
Dear Carole
Yes, I would opt for a CD such as you describe - it would take up less
room than a book, and I am seriously short of shelfspace!
It would be wonderful to be able to print out patterns as one needed them
- the pricking straight onto card - and I assume would make scaling up or
down
I guess I need to clear things up a tiny bit. There are two websites:
The original one is http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/
This is the one we send scans to, where John Cropper (Ralph
Griswold's able successor) does all the work of checking the scans,
assembling them into the
Naturally, when I make an absolute statement, it doesn't take long for me to
contradict myself!! Jean Nathan mentioned Jane Atkinson's book on disk, and
this is a good example. I did not discover Jean's book until it was OOP, and
so was thrilled to learn about the CD. As soon as I got it, I
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Hello All of you.
My preference would be a book as stated by so many of you.
Another reason being. All lacemakers do not have a computer.
Such is the case with a friend of mine who bought Out of Africa. She has a CD
that she cannot use because she does not have a computer.Daphne Murky
On 10/25/07 9:33 AM, ann.humphreys wrote:
I know this doesn't apply to using a CD but did you know
that if you have Windows Internet Explorer there is a
magnifying glass at the bottom right hand corner of the
screen that magnifiesup to 400%. I find it really useful
for studying lace pictures on
Hi
For all those interested, the web address for the virtual maginifying
glass is: http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK
Joy Beeson wrote:
On 10/25/07 9:33 AM, ann.humphreys wrote:
I know this doesn't apply to using a CD but did you know
that if you have
On 10/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know which eBay offering you're referring to, but I would really like
to take this opportunity to advise all Arachnids that in the not-too-distant
past, the Professor's website at the University of Arizona was easily
accessible
Shere'e wrote:
If this IS an illegal copy and is in fact the work of the Professor
would you please let me know.
I did a google for the title Torchon Lace-work as an enlargement of the
title page isn't clear. Immediately got the page:
I guess I have to pop in here. Sometimes the preference...book or CDis
an age thing, too. I , like many of you, prefer to settle in with a book..to
study and read patterns.
I suppose that, like Clay says, the optimum vehicle is a nice glossy book with
a pocket for a CD. (This harkens back
Well I have swung all day, backwards and forewards but really do think the
absolute ideal is part book, part disc, as the ladies say to be able to
print off patterns from the disc really is the very best option.
It certainly has been a brain teaser all day:-) in an ideal world.
Sue T, chilly
This just came from Marji:
Dear Tess -
Yes I am home and trying to deal with the remains of the smoke (very
bad for the lungs - so we are still advised to stay inside with
windows shut) and the outside still has lots of black soot. Amusing,
but the worst of my problem right now is spoiled
Shere'e,
Does this happen? Absolutely.
I took a moment to look this item up on ebay, could not enlarge it, but
recognized the contents as something old, something I may have seen before.
The pdf size is stated the manner it is on the Professor's site. I did a
bit of checking and FOUND the
I'm sorry if I offended you with the information which I posted. It is a fact
that many of the things posted on the Archives were downloaded and then sold
for profit. I stated clearly that I did not know which book you were referring
to, but that many e-books related to lace which are offered
In a message dated 25/10/2007 16:40:41 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Then there's a link to the person selling on ebay, and at the bottom a
claim for the copyright 1993-2007 John Mark Ockerbloom
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), which I'm sure isn't legal because the scans are in the
Well, sure, it's too bad that people make money off other people.
However, if you think about it, this eBay person has come up with a
hard copy of what is only available on the Archives site as a PDF or
as a CD on Kris' site. There is a place where you can order books
made up from CD
No, Tess, that's the whole point.
The 'book' for sale on e-bay is a download only. You don't even get a CD!
So there is no advantage at all in paying $7.95 instead of looking it up on the
Arizona site. That's what makes it such a con.
It's a good job that at least everyone on Arachne and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
In a message dated 25/10/2007 16:40:41 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Then there's a link to the person selling on ebay, and at the bottom a
claim for the copyright 1993-2007 John Mark Ockerbloom
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), which I'm sure isn't legal
On 10/25/07, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sara wrote:
Shere'e wrote:
Where I got offended was the assumption that because someone was
selling it on EBay that it was an illegal copy of something.
It wasn't because someone was selling it on ebay that the assumption was
that it was
Being in the IT industry, I know CD's have a shelf life. I also consider the
risk involved in owning/using a CD. The obvious, they can get scratched or
cracked making them unreadable. If the head on your CD drive gets out of
alignment, that happens more often than one realises, it will damage
Yes, I know that copyright infringement happens all the time. We deal
with it constantly at the landmark I work for here in Seattle. We have
to go after people so much for it that our lawyers have the basic
forms filled out on a template in their computer!
Where I got offended was the assumption
Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the
lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we
contact her 'off list'. As she says in her message she will provide a summary.
It's not impossible that there is some interesting 'lace'
Today is the last day for entering the Christmas Lace
Card Exchange.
If you sign up, you would be given a partner to
exchange cards with. The cards must have some kind of
handmade lace in or on it. Any kind of lace is fine.
You may sign up for one, two or three exchanges. The
cards are to be
personally I'm enjoying all the different points of view
jenny barron
Scotland
Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the
lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we
contact her 'off list'.
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Hello all,
I must admit that one could see this as an off-lace topic, but I for one,
have been enlightened concerning the pros and cons of books versus media.
It is all a part of lace to me.
I live in an area that has no other lacer that I know of within a 50 minute
drive of me without my
The problem here is you inferred something that I did not imply. I warned
about a known practice. I did not make the assumption that the book in
question was definitely one of those taken off the Professor's site, because in
fact, you had not told us yet what book it was. But, as it happens,
Like many of you I much prefer a real book to a CD, and if there's more
than a couple of sentences that I really need to understand I have to
print out a hard copy. That plus the problems of the limited life
expectancy of a CD mean that I say give me a proper book any day.
However, an
I am hoping to start a Christmas lace piece and need some help please.
I have Brigitte Bellon's Gekloppelter Weihnachtsschmck, I want to do 'Muster
4 - Kleine Kerze'.
I can tell it needs 4 pr Linen 60/2 and 2 pr Metallic. What does 'Nr. 12'
mean?
I would also like to know what the paragraph of
Hi Lorri and everyone
waves hand I can help.
The Nr. 12 is a measure and I'm thinking it is the Madeira Metallic No. 12
listed in Brenda's Threads for Lace - I use DMC Fil Or or the Mouliné
metallic embroidery floss, one or two strands depending on the pricking.
I don't think there is an
From: purple lacer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As others have stated, what if
current CD technology becomes outdated someday? What if your CD
becomes
corrupted? Or you drop it and it breaks? Books have survived for
a long, long time!
I, too, am a book-lover, but I'd like to point out that books
On 10/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know which eBay offering you're referring to, but I would really like
to take this opportunity to advise all Arachnids that in the not-too-distant
past, the Professor's website at the University of Arizona was easily
accessible
Shere'e,
Does this happen? Absolutely.
I took a moment to look this item up on ebay, could not enlarge it, but
recognized the contents as something old, something I may have seen before.
The pdf size is stated the manner it is on the Professor's site. I did a
bit of checking and FOUND the
I'm sorry if I offended you with the information which I posted. It is a fact
that many of the things posted on the Archives were downloaded and then sold
for profit. I stated clearly that I did not know which book you were referring
to, but that many e-books related to lace which are offered
Yes, I know that copyright infringement happens all the time. We deal
with it constantly at the landmark I work for here in Seattle. We have
to go after people so much for it that our lawyers have the basic
forms filled out on a template in their computer!
Where I got offended was the assumption
Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the
lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we
contact her 'off list'. As she says in her message she will provide a summary.
It's not impossible that there is some interesting 'lace'
Today is the last day for entering the Christmas Lace
Card Exchange.
If you sign up, you would be given a partner to
exchange cards with. The cards must have some kind of
handmade lace in or on it. Any kind of lace is fine.
You may sign up for one, two or three exchanges. The
cards are to be
personally I'm enjoying all the different points of view
jenny barron
Scotland
Such a shame that all these messages about the book format are coming into the
lace in box. I feel it would have been much better if Carole had requested we
contact her 'off list'.
To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL
Hello all,
I must admit that one could see this as an off-lace topic, but I for one,
have been enlightened concerning the pros and cons of books versus media.
It is all a part of lace to me.
I live in an area that has no other lacer that I know of within a 50 minute
drive of me without my
The problem here is you inferred something that I did not imply. I warned
about a known practice. I did not make the assumption that the book in
question was definitely one of those taken off the Professor's site, because in
fact, you had not told us yet what book it was. But, as it happens,
Carole, how interesting that you bring that up! DH and I have recently
purchased a good-sized RV, with the intent of moving into it. You really
have to scale back to fit into one of those things! While nothing much
beats cozying up with a good book or magazine, CDs or DVDs are a size- and
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