[lace] teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Nicky H-Townsend
Hi all, Just been catching up on the thread of recent digests and came across Joke Lyn's messages regarding teaching children. Lyn wrote: I apologize, but your posting struck me the wrong way. I'm sitting here with tears of laughter running down my face, thinking, Rats, my extensive criminal

Re: [lace] Seventeenth-Century Women's Dress Patterns - Book Two

2013-07-09 Thread Laceandbits
Dear all, while I take on board Kim's frustration about the lace patterns, or lack of, don't forget these books are entitled *dress* patterns not lace patterns. Presumably the writers are pattern cutting experts and they are aimed at people interested in reconstructing the clothes not the

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Joke Sinclair
Dear Lyn, You gave me an excellent idea. I could use some slave labour to be able to enter the 5 meter club :) Just kidding! It is sad they had to enforce these rules. Joke On 8 Jul 2013, at 23:20, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Dear Joke, I apologize, but your posting struck me the

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All Been watching this thread with interest. I am enhanced CRB checked and do hold a current certificate however here in the UK it would only cover me for being a School Crossing Patrol! If I wanted to go into school to 'teach' then I should be CRB checked for that... if I wanted to

Re: [lace] Lace Maths

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Duckles
Can't help but think of one of the books on the history of lace. the children could make lace but they couldn't read, write except for maybe their own name, name the current monarch, etc They never learned maths, english, history, current affairs, etc Did it stop them making

RE: [lace] Skills to tout to get them to let you teach lace to children recap

2013-07-09 Thread Maureen
Dear Lyn I must admit that I have enjoyed this discussion, seems to have made people think, including me. I haven't, in the past, actually associated lacemaking with maths but am having to rethink. Your points below are very good.And I loved the comment in one of your emails about

RE: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Maureen
I so agree Sue. Look at the cases in recent years where 'abusers' have had the necessary CRB checks and passed just because they 'lied' or something. I also believe it is basically a money making exercise. Retired people have the time and energy to go and teach lacemaking to children in

Re: [lace] when and where to teach children lace

2013-07-09 Thread nestalace . carol
Hi Anna et al, Talking about the library, I found a couple of students by just taking my lace into the Library, and making lace on several occasions.   The library was keen to have me working there, saying that it was no different to students working away on their studies, but people were

Re: [lace] Seventeenth-Century Women's Dress Patterns - Book Two

2013-07-09 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Jacquie et al, I wonder if that information was edited out of the book, but still exists. Does anyone have an 'in' with the editors to find out? Both books have exactly the same number of pages, which could be indicative of the need to edit the second volume. Jacquie wrote:

[lace] Background checks for lace teachers in the US--cost

2013-07-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear residents of the US, Background checks for those who work with children are an unfortunate but necessary fact of life. They are needed not only for schools, but also for those in churches working with children. Several of those Across The Pond have mentioned the prohibitive price of one

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread lynrbailey
Well, Sue, you've got an MP. WRITE! Let's have a Youtube when this question is asked in Parliament. A UNIFIED BACKGROUND CHECK FOR LACE TEACHERS!! Once and done, 5 pounds for an update every 3 years. Otherwise lacemaking will go the way of the dodo in 30 years. Lyn in Lancaster,

Re: [lace] Carnival of the Animals

2013-07-09 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Elizabeth and all, the photo isn't good enough to enlarge as big as possible to see all those elements for being able to say they are hand- or machine made. But the different things, in my opinion weren't together from beginning on. They look as if they were from different times. That could be a

RE: [lace] Skills to tout to get them to let you teach lace to children recap

2013-07-09 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Maureen, Thank you for your comment. I think it is part of a larger picture, of who is attracted to lacemaking. I have long thought that lacemakers are a cut above the herd when it comes to intellectual thought. Talking to a lacemaker is not necessarily the same as talking to just

Re: [lace] Lace Maths

2013-07-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear Elizabeth, et al, I get my brains from my father's side, who originally was Flemish, but, being Mennonite, they left Flanders about the same time lace arrived. They were farmers, and good farmers, but never anything else that we know of, until my father's generation. Daddy grew up in

[lace] Sight reading and memory

2013-07-09 Thread Tess Parrish
Liz-- Thanks so much for your input on Arachne. You have explained a lot about my tricky memory. When I sight read music I know exactly where the muscles of my voice should be and silently make the sounds (hope that makes sense). When I have to memorize words, or remember names, I don't

Re: [lace] Background checks for lace teachers in the US--cost

2013-07-09 Thread Malvary Cole
CRB checks are not only for teaching children. When I was teaching at a local seniors centre I had to have one done. Luckily they paid for it, so I really don't know how much it costs. Malvary in Ottawa where it isn't too hot today (so far). - To unsubscribe send email to

RE: [lace] Background checks for lace teachers in the US--cost

2013-07-09 Thread Agnes Boddington
The stupidity about CRB checks in England is that I cannot get one, because I am self-employed. I contacted the authorities, and was told that I could have an enhanced security check instead, but .. as I am self-employed I cannot have that either. How silly can it be. As Sue Duckles said here

Re: [lace] Background checks for lace teachers in the US--cost

2013-07-09 Thread Lin Hudren
when my children were in school, i am not sure background and other checks were made but mostly the proof was in the pudding and i was blessed that my children were able to get a very good education in a smaller school system. it allowed for more personalization than i believe teachers today are

Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear friends, Have you tried showing a left-hander a technique in the mirror. It works for some though not for all. Sometimes it's easiest just to sit opposite and let the other person mirror your image. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing

Re: [lace] Lace and maths

2013-07-09 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Nancy, Because of these two observations, I've always thought that people who are good at bobbin lace would make good software engineers, whether they know it or not, and whether they are good at arithmetic or not. This is the other way around from some of the observations that have been

Re: [lace] Math vs arithmetic

2013-07-09 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Liz, I was once asked why I could sight read a piece of music but couldn't remember it to play from memory and I said I didn't know. However my music teacher said that it was probably because I matched the pattern of the notes on the stave to a memory of how my hands felt when I played.

[lace] Admin: Trimming posts and background checks

2013-07-09 Thread Avital
Dear spiders, Lately I've been sending out a lot of private reminders to please trim posts. This is a public reminder to include only relevant bits from the posting you are quoting. If you paraphrase the email, you may not even need to include much more than a line or two. This is mainly for the

Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Bronwen of Hindscroft
Easiest for who? As a left hander, this kind of idea (that all a right hander needed to do was sit opposite and let me mirror image) is part of what caused me to hate crochet. My mother, a right hander, tried to teach me to crochet for years, not realizing that my brain didn't see things like

Re: [lace] Background checks for lace teachers in the US--cost

2013-07-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear Lin, Thank you for your kind remarks. I do think you've missed the point, however. We were looking for the skills used in lacemaking to get schools to promote, or at least accept a volunteer lacemaking group. This discussion is about what abilities does lacemaking develop, among other

[lace] Seventeenth-Century Women's Dress Patterns II

2013-07-09 Thread Kim Davis
My email set up does not allow me to trim off old posts, so I am having to start a fresh email. Rosemary, I agree wholeheartedly with this statement, you expressed my feelings well: I think it’s just a sad fact that given the group of people involved, the lace will never be treated as

Re: [lace] Skills to tout to get them to let you teach lace to children recap

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Harvey
I remember the very first conversation I held with my first lace teacher (now very sadly suffering from Alzheimer's ) on my enquiry about her classes she asked me if I liked jigsaw puzzles I replied that I did and her response was well you will like lacemaking then bless you Noni what a sad

[lace] I wa hacked.

2013-07-09 Thread lackam
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[lace] Lace skills to tout so they let you teach children Final

2013-07-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
These are the articulable skills mentioned in this discussion. If anyone comes up with more, please add them to your personal list. eye hand coordination small motor skills concentration following directions, oral and written problem solving analytical thinking logic spatial relations

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