Hello spiders
For those looking for the list what to bring with you and other subjects:
Old postings can be found at
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/
Jo Falkink
with a faster online grid generator on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html
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Tamara wrote:
That's *5* browsers, all of them more stable than the Internet
Explorer, for which reason they're recommended by most
computer-knowledgeable people and quite popular. So I really think that
between them they're likely to be used by much more than 1-1.5% of
Internet-connected
Dear spiders who tried http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html in
vain: it should be working now.
Sorry, for MS-IE 5.0+ only. With another browser you have to download
some program anyway so I didn't re-invent those wheels. Wheels that will be
much faster anyway.
By the way, afer the first
A french site has very good pictures. Some pages I had to try a few times
until they worked.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html
select cours from the menu
under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours
or try directly http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/fonds/
select: fonds de
, too 'puter-illiterate or too lazy.
Jo Falkink
On 21 May 2005, at 16:24, J.Falkink-Pol wrote:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aplimouzin/frame.html
select cours from the menu
under etudes des fond press the button lancer le cours
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Hello Spiders
A while ago I asked for lacy places in Pague, Faye Owers requested a report
as she also plans a trip, so here it is for others as well.
Anne Bednar Garrison reccommended a shop of Iva Prokov on
http://www.palickovani.cz When I tried too look for the street Chalabalova,
it appeared
Hello Spiders
Within a litle less than 2 weeks I'm visiting Prague with my husband for a
short holiday. What lace shops/exibitions could there be left in the city? I
tried a German list but the only answer I got was the national museum. But I
also vaguely remember stories about shops closing down
Hello Ruth and Dona
As it is off-topic and I'm not on chat, I'm answering privately.
Australia must have good winds, as I heard foot and mouth disease reached
the UK through certain high winds after sand storms in the North African
desert.
Jo Falkink
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Hello Spiders
The tiny urls may be convenient to prevent having to copy and paste long
urls back together. But every advantage has its disadvantage. It makes it
hard for me to me to recognize wether the final url is already in the
collection of bobbin lace links
Hello spiders
Tell your keyboard to behave mid European and accents wait for vowels to sit
on them, coonvenient for French too. Type something else and it becomes a
plain single/double/back quote. Close to the calculator and paint you can
find sepcial symbols, no cheat sheet required any more.
Who knows btbunn1 signing with Brenda? She was so wrong, it made me
suspicious.
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Except conventions there's another point of concern to attract young
lacemakers. Let me tell my own story.
I started lace making at my mid-teens with a few books. Those
days I never thought of seeking contact with other lace makers, lacemaking
was just one of many things I experimented with. I
Helen
As you already noticed Brenda is our thread expert, but I collected some
more from the web on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html
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Hello Shirley
It is a pitty you are just a week too early. 16-20 March Breda has a Textile
festival, including a lace workshop with Ulrike Löhr! Consider a trip to
Brugge, might be one or two hours by train.
Brussels is even closer:
Museum voor het Kostuum en de Kant
Violetstraat 12 (new
Hello spiders
The current pattern of the month is much clearer.
http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/leanne.htm
I looks like a simple runner and pins inside.
But previously I guessed the top and bottom were too airy, so they evolved
like drawn at the bottom of
Hello Spiders
http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/bestbookmarks.htm
and several other Torchon patterns on the same site show split cloth stitch
quadrants.
Te pictures are vague. I tried to immitate them as shown on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/spleten.jpg
It looks like happy a mutant. Can somebody
Hello Spiders
I created an international group for (would be) users of the Knipling
software where they can help one another. You can read more and join at
http://groups.msn.com/ksug
For those wo didn't get response from http://www.knipling.de please try
http://www.nytiknipling.dk/ The site is
Hello Spiders
For those with Micorsofts Internet Explorer I published an on-line grid
generator on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-EN.html
As I'm not too familiair with inches, I would like to know what would be
usual distances between pins, and how do you spell these values?
Brenda: the
You might want to cut pieces of say 15 cm / 6 inch per passive pair, and
knot that to some cheap thread with the same twist. For the runner you'll
need more, take a colour that is not used as a runner or for the fillings.
The knots may work awfull, but give you a probe of about 5 cm / 2 inches
Hello Spiders
http://www.kantopleiding-nko.nl/Aktiviteiten/Aktiviteiten.html
by Joep Verhoeven, student of the Design Academy in Eindhoven with the help
of the NKO. We have a TV personality called Joep van 't Hek. So this Fence
of Youp is a word play.
Speaking of promoting lace without
Lynn Carpenter wrote
When we visited in the fall of 1998, we saw lots of lace.
I remember having visited the Rijksmuseum some years ago for a special
*temporal* exhibition. I saw about wat Lynn described. The exhibition was on
the occasion of the 75's aniversay of the Kantsalet and the lace was
Hello Spiders
Usually our houses are bigger, but one of the authors of Kant uit
Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer has a living room of only 15x10 foot and
sometimes teached 5 at a time. As she sais: Where there's a will, there's a
way.
I myself don't do much advertising. I used to have name-cards in
We could say Den Moer instead of 's Gravenmoers maybe?
Those things only happen for big cities. Like we call Paris Parijs en Köln
Keulen, like you call Den Haag The Hague but don't translate lesser known
villages. Nobody would understand you with Den Moer. We also have a
neighbouring village
Jean Barrett
What is a horn aficot? I didn't find it in the dictionary.
Jo Faklink
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Hello Tamara and Weronika
On a German list I found the link
http://www.kloeppelstube.com/frset-tipps.html
Jo Falkink
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Hello Mary
Might this page have what you meant ?
http://www.lacemakerusa.com/thread/supplies.htm
Jo Falkink
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I sometimes use an intermediate form of throwing in pairs:
Half of the bobbins I wind as full as possible. For the other half I try to
assess the length needed (has been explained before, try to search the
archive http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/), and wind just that
on the other
Dear silent newbees
For the silent beginners among the group: Why not post the learning notes
(reccommended by Patty Dowden) on the list? Other beginners thus might learn
a lot about things they don't bother to ask or even didn't thought of. Don't
feel ashamed to warn others for your own
That's absolutely right. Het lassen may not be the traditional way of
joining Bucks, and it may not be *quite* as reliable/strong as it is on
laces which have 4 pairs coming into each pin, but it's still a most
excellent join, able to withstand mistreatment (washing). The only way
it would be
Did I overlook my own message about a little kingfisher in birds and
animals in honiton lace of Saikoh Takano? Or didn't it reach the
list/digest at all? Does this message reach the list?
Jo Falkink
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Hello Tamara
I thought to check with him first, but I don't have either the URL (if
they have a website) to see, or the e-address (to ask)... The Google
search (admittedly, inept, given my 'puter skills. Or lack thereof g)
came up with several hits, but always on someone else's webpage, with
LOL: I saw the expression mum-ware once before and really thought that
particular software developer wanted to surprise his mother! Now I
understand he meant himself as the mum of his software.
I like the idea, but do you really expect people transfering a small
donation to a museum, when a lot
You do
not have the time to go back and correct, he'd say. Your children are
at home, crying hungry, he'd say. Every minute you make lace counts,
as does every minute you spend undoing it, he'd say.
Tamara P Duvall
My mother used to say: Wo walks fast doesn't see it, who walks slow doesn't
Dear Alice: a PS
Don't try too many bobbins on a cookie, I wouldn't know how to stack them.
Pick also your smallest cookie as you better get your fingers behind the
bobbins, when they are halfway outside the pillow.
Jo Falkink
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With less annotations and more chaotic, I compete with the lacefairy on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html
Even with this sloppy attitude it is hard to stay up to date. So bobbin lace
links not yet on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html
are welcome, like the new
I described om en om with cloth stitches, should have been half stitches.
Jo Falkink
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Adele and other spiders
The dictionary translates om en om with
- in turns
- turn and turn
- turn and turn about
- every other one
It is a contemporary technique/mesh/ground developped by Lidwien Roording.
You repeat (a) cloth stitch, (b) cloth stitch, pin, cloth-stitch
The next row b below a an
Somebody wrote she neede a new pillow for every workshop, as she never
finished the previous ones. I someteimes pull a project from the pillow
leaving the pins in the cardboard pattern. A larger threshold to start
again, but takes much less space. Either secure the bobbins for example in a
Must be something with Russian lace of Sebastiana van den Herik. In a book I
own she also mentions Moravia, but no strength.
Fil Fleur is no longer produced. Colcotton is Dutch (see my links).
Colcotton 34/2 = 29 dD (see
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/diktes-EN.html)
Should equal Campbell
Thanks for thinking of my link collection. Whenever anyone is in doubt
whther I have a link or not, please look at
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/extlinks.html
It has all the links ordered by address.
http://www.cipka.sk/
Jo, if you click on Linky (very difficult, Slovak is, no? g) there
I try to store leftovers on bibbins with the the original spool and same
with leftovers rewound in bundels on the earlier mentioned embroiders
bobbins. But may time I forget and put all on a pile for other decorative
purposes.
The last few years I'm mainly doing Flanders and white Milanese and
Please use descriptive/informative subject lines not simply:
question/help/digest-nr-xx. I can't read everything and know of others who
even left the group because it was just too much, I don't like to join them.
A good subject lines help to be selective and might keep me within the
group.
Also
Hello Tamara
I was lucky to find some back up while you were gone, a second question on
your mask was solved with the help of Jacquie.
Jo wrote you skipped an exercise, but I think you learnt a much more
valuable lesson. When I converted to hands up I also became a CT-er.
More on
Robin P wrote: Foam is too
light by itself, it needs a wood base to make the pillow sit still. I don't
like it for Midlands bobbins because they lay flat on the flat surface and
are hard to grab, but Continentals have a narrow waist that sits above the
flat surface and so are easier to grab.
I
Hello Spiders
The informal inquieries gives a lot to catch up with after a 3 weeks
holiday. Here my late contribution to projects/object/work in progress
(PIP/OIP/WIP) and unfinished objects (UFO's)
Recently a friend gave me I her late mothers bobbins. She also told me she
started knitting
Better late than never... Another reaction on the Dutch list:
The pattern appeared in the 3rd year of Kantkwartaal nr. 3, Mai 1998
copyrighted indeeed by Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes
Jo Falkink
Hallo kletsklosjes,
Ik heb even moeten zoeken, maar alsnog gevonden: er staat een
kantklospatroon van
I asked on a Dutch list.
Kantkwartaal has been issued by Jolanda de Boer during 13 years until the
start of 2000. Most patterns were hers. Hanke had a quick look but couldn't
find the strawberrie (aardbei) pattern though she only missed nr 3 of the
3rd year.
Jo Falkink
Ik heb alle afleveringen
The message There is no group Arachne7 keeps poppin gup.
What am I doing wrong?
You may have missed a later message that a dash was added to the name to
make the 7 stand out more clearly
So you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7
Jo Falkink
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Hello David
I never heard of the rhyme or story before, so please excuse my ignorance.
Jo Falkink
The seven wifes could come from the seven continents,
[...]
That's a great idea, except that down here they didn't wear anything
David in Ballarat
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Hello Spiders
Perhaps someone could check wether the size requirements concers shipment or
exposition. It would be a pitty if Tamara guessed wrong.
The man and his wifes could be made 3D, with for example some transparent or
couloured coneshape slipped into it as a supporting base. That would
So why not just call it ArachneSeven or ArachneProject?
I used Arachne7 as a short version.
I recommend that you keep it off the Yahoo directory
Done from the start. Though parts of the group migth be exposed as soon as
the result is in exhibition. For example photographs and the calander, to
Dear 7-spiders
I've two volunteers as moderator so we're launched!!!
Anonymous messages can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but lets first give everybody participating a chance to join
to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arachne-7
Bedtime is near (hoping this time no other neighbours are celebrating)
Hello Spiders
The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, however, Antarctica?
A Japanese Kimono, an Indian from North America (the mens costumes are more
impressive), a colourfull South Amercian, from Europe many period or
fokloristic costumes could be picked.
Jo Falkink
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Hello Spiders
I prepared a Yahoo group with the proper settings and facilities to go
underground. If another method is chosen to go underground, no hurt
feelings. No hurry too.
As soon as someone feels like taking the lead for the project (not me), she
can go to
Hello Spiders
To easy organise mailing end exchanging files and pictures between
participants, it might be an idea to create a sibling yahoo-group. It opts
for moderated mebmership and a non-public archive. It provides photoalbums,
files, calendars, polls etc private to the group.
The Arachne
I happen to live in a village called Zevenhuizen: 7-houses, but what to make
of that?
Jo Falkink
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Hello Spiders
I print with a desk-jet as I have it always at hand. I used to use blue
matte film. But switched to couloured paper as blank film is much more
easily available as window decoration, next to the wall paper. But maybe
that is just the case for crowded regions. Select a matte one
Hello Jane and Spiders
Hi All, Thanks Jo for your website. That looks like an
Jo who? Oh me! Whenever will I get used to that name? But signing with Joke
on English lists ...
excellent way to make rings! I have two questions though -
what thread size are you using and how big is the
Hello Jane, Bev and everyone
Thank you for sharing your 'ring' tips Jane [...]
Somehow I missed that part.
I get an inkling to try a Rosaline motif. Using the ring stick is an
improvement for me, on the R.p. method of stitching them on paper.
The ring stick I obtained appeared to be too
Hello Spiders
On a second carefull look I could find the heartflower of Rosemary in Jana
Novak's book. It was further down than the flowers. But then again, a heart
shape is a very universal symbol, both hearts have different slopes,
different numbers of pins and different braids. The method of
Hello Spiders
I agree we should be carefull with making accusations. It happend to me
someone categorised my designs as those of someone else. I suppose she just
recognised them both as Rosaline without even knowing that term.
I happen to have Kantklossen in vrije vorm of Jana Novak. I suppose
Hello Spiders
As I'm only a member of Lace and not of Lace-chat, I can't object. But for
example with TheoBrejaart (no affiliate, just a customer) you can subscribe
individually to a newsletter. That seems a better system to me, perhaps
allowing 1 mail with just a link per quarter or year, to
Needle pin: Do try and use a proper one, [...]
Is it just a needle in a vice, point out, or a pin with a bead as head?
[...] Don't
forget, if you knit, you're used to pulling threads
through loops using a needle without a hook on the
end...
With knitting you have two needle-points in one
Clay Blackwell wrote:
The most exhaustive work on the subject of (joining and )
mounting lace is Het Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant by
Louise Allis-Viddeleer.
Theo Brejaart has this book and the English translation listed on
his website. It is on the page for Dutch books.
[...] following the route also shown by Mary Niven [...]
Sorry, looking closer once again, it appeard to be three different methods!
Jo Falkink
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A friend of mine once showed a pice of lace that seemed bleeched partly:
halfway she stopped smoking!
Jo Falkink
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Helen,
Could you tell me a little more about this system, or refer to a site that
explains it? I think it might be good to add a phrase or 2 about that on my
page
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/bieb-EN.html
The Dutch version of that page is more extensive, but I dn't dare to make
similar
Hello Spiders
Speaking of jugglin bobbins: On a holliday in the Italian Alpes I once
looked at ladies making lace. They make some Torcon-like lace but without a
pricking and only pins at the edges (and a moving one at the bottom of the
V). From time to time they make what looked to me as a TCTC,
Weronika, Tamara and other Spiders,
The earlier discussion on the hands-up hands-down subject must have been
before I joined Arachne. I switched to what appears for me to something
between hands up/down what worked well for me. I show on my site how I use a
cookie-pillow and overcame the problem
Weronika,
So, my contention is that Bobowa may be known, but against its
collective will :)
Hmm. I can see that. The lacemakers are definitely there, there's even
a school as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure they don't use
computers...
Don't be too sure:
Tamara
question as well, but... *In Polish*, we have a word pasmanteria
(which seems to have been stolen directly from French) and it covers
Be carefull comparing (almost) identical words in different languages.
Once I confirmed a Swiss gui not to be serious. He laid down his spoon:
Do you
I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of
April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue -
are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great
minds think alike and all that).
I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it
I wonder if the posting was meant to go up on April 1st, instead of
April 2nd? Lots of magazines put a spoof article in the April issue -
are the editors of LOKK Kantbrief likely to have done so too? (Great
minds think alike and all that).
I don't think so, as the Dutch members recived it
Hello lacemakers
Someone collecting beads asked me whether the beads in a spangle may have
some meaning. I guessed not, except adding weight to the bobbin and being
fancy. But as a continental lacemaker I don't spangle and don't know about
the history of spangles.
Can anybody enlighten me?
Jo
Hello all
For those who don't yet know me from the Yahoo groups, I refer to my
website.
About 20 years ago I only had lace-making books and didn't know other
lacemakers, nor lacemaking-suppliers. So I didn't even know how to get white
thread thin enough for the patterns form Elsie Luxtons books.
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