I got this message today and must forward it -
I hope you do *not* find it ! but if you *find* the
named virus, you must follow the instructions
to get rid of it from your computer and send this
message on to all the people in your address
book . . . I had *two copies* of the virus on my
PC - and
Well, ladies, it's been both fun and educational,
but I'm not leaving to stagnate (compost ? g)
- I will be 'growing' in a different direction.
I'm going to lurk for awhile, weaning myself away
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Thank you to all who have replied to my
Well, ladies, it's been both fun and educational,
but I'm not leaving to stagnate (compost ? g)
- I will be 'growing' in a different direction.
I'm going to lurk for awhile, weaning myself away
before I unsub, meanwhile getting over missing you . . .
Thank you to all who have replied to my
here is some news about a piece of research into how our sense of humour
changes with age:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3181489.stm
Linda Walton,
(wondering whether passing this test should be made compulsory for anyone
wanting to stand for election . . .).
I find that many so-called
(snip)
A brass pin would lend
strength to the relatively fragile part, like steel rebar in pre-stressed
concrete. If the pin were recessed into the head to produce a smooth
surface, you wouldn't even notice it was there, except that your bobbins
wouldn't break at the head.
Patty
I'm allergic to my own perspiration...
The skin is the body's largest
'filtering' organ . . .
It never *really* surfaced in Poland (except when I wore clothes made with
more than 50% un-natural fiber),
(snip)
Tamara
Or when whatever was in the
'unnatural' fiber, added to whatever
was being
All of you should know, no one was killed
Bev
Update - how grievously sad - is that
a van-full of firefighters *were* killed on
their way home . . .
Toni in Seattle
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Just going through some 'old' e-mails,
reminded me that a few months ago I had
half-heartedly agreed with someone that
perhaps there had been no extinctions on
a 'local' level - but which I now refute !! :
=
For Immediate Release: December
http://autos.msn.com/as/pebblebeach2003/article.aspx?xml=veyron
excerpts 1 and 2 :
. . . will reach a speed of 252 mph.
The Veyron 16ยท4 is expected to sell for more than $1 million. Only a few dozen
cars will be produced each year and total production will be limited to 300,
guaranteeing the
I finally 'bought the book' (The Complete
Encyclopedia of Needlework, Anniversary
Edition, (Fourth Edition) ISBN 0-7624-1318-2)
(soft cover - $15.95).
The first thing I read was that this was
the complete edition, in spite of the fact
that the original had over 800 pages and
this one has only 702
Yes. But I dislike the smell and the taste, so never had enough to
*really* test it :) And I only have a *mild* lactose intolerance;
Tamara
I don't know what the rates might be
*historically* - but I wonder if any of
the research 'scientists' have published
anything about how much lactose
- food 'additives'
- plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food
- GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . .
I don't think it's quite as simple as that... I was told (way back in
my childhood) that allergies (food or otherwise) are genetic -- that we
pass them
Question : how many allergy cases
does it take before consumers start
thinking :
- food 'additives'
- plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food
- GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . .
Toni in Seattle
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Here is the lace URL for those who don't have it yet:
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html
And for my part, the first volume of Ricci has been scanned: on to the
second!
Tess
Many thanks, Tess (and The Professor !)
and particularly for reminding me about the
'direct' URL
(perhaps it should be a requirement that an editor of a lace-related
magazine should be a Deborah or a version of the name? g)
Oops - 'another country heard from' -
Bev is doing wonders with the Canadian
Lace Gazette, thank you . . .
The design (I got the second, BTW and, from all I've heard,
(snip)
Greetings from Ilske in very hot and dry (nature is suffering a lot)
Hamburg
in Germany
The people are also 'suffering a lot' -
how about planting more trees ? even
if it's just in containers someplace
outside - the interchange of water
through plant transpiration is what
keeps forests
9400 lightning strikes in 24 hrs. 65 fires.
Alice in Oregon -
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Jean ? Your original post was an observation
about celebrities moving in and wanting
to remove the oaks and plant palms, so
your question does not apply chronologically :
And before we sailed to America for the first time?
Palm trees do actually grow in Poole -
(snip)
There are varieties of
Aberdeen and Royal Deeside are not in England; they are in Scotland. And
the Gulf Stream warms the west side of Scotland (there are tropical gardens
at Inverewe) but the east coast (Aberdeen and Royal Deeside) are chilled by
winds direct from the Russian Steppes.
Margery.
How in the world
http://slate.msn.com/id/2086617/
Faith-Based Fudging
How a Bush-promoted Christian prison program fakes success by massaging data.
By Mark A.R. Kleiman
Posted Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 9:35 AM PT
The White House, the Wall Street Journal, and Christian conservatives have
been crowing since
(snip)
The most likely source of the phenolic chemical is antioxidants added to such
as plastic
Including plastic bottles for water/
pickled food (salad dressings/tartar
sauce . . . ?
(snip)
The common factors which influence it are:
(i) pH - a measure of the acidity or alkalinity of a
Jean in Poole
The UK hit it's highest temperature since records began at 3 pm yesterday -
38 degrees C (just over 100 F) at Heathrow. Roll on winter!
Be careful what you ask for -
if this is El Nino 'summer', it's
gonna be colder'n _ _ _ _
this winter - with La Nina in
the *winter* ??
I'm pleased to see someone in North America is aware of the effect of the
Gulf Stream on Britain :-) When I said something about the Gulf Stream in
1969
to two otherwise very intelligent and well educated friends in Boston they
thought I was pulling their legs. This despite the fact they were
Who *are* these people ?
. Eddy Marin
. George Rand
. Alan Ralsky
. John Ritzer
. Juan Garavaglia
. Eric Reinertsen
. Mike Cunningham
. Gaven Stubberfield
. Carl Henderson
. DocDrugs/Pinnacle Meds
I have learnt that there are 3 things that I cannot do:
1) I can't speak french - but most french people speak better english than
me
2) I can't make puff pastry - but I don't eat wheat so no problem
3) I can't draw - but I make fantastic lace
Liz Beecher
H - - - English - puff -
We then found out he got a bravery award on the
last day at camp. Seems he was a little unhappy about this as he felt
a young lad who had never left home before was very home sick, my grandson
took him under his wing. Nan he was brave, he stayed. The young make
you think sometimes.
Jean in
(snip)
What's more maritime than the oaks our ships used to be built from?
Jea in Poole
Port Orford cedars ? They provided
masts for those oaken ships - sent
world-wide from the coast of Oregon
in the U.S.
Toni in Seattle
as for the palm trees, if they don't
like oaks tell them to move where
Far from being limited to Southern Europe lavender is also grown in the north
east of Scotland - on Royal Deeside - and hand creams etc made with it.
Patricia in Wales
Fifteen years ago, a little town called
Sequim was dying due to being so far
'out of the way' . . . until some
Californians moved
We don't now take our bottles, even though what we used to take were the
non-alcoholic wines - we thought the reputation may well take some time to
live down!
Carol
I'm sure it's different where you are,
but if it had been me, I would have
invited him to sit, have a drink, and
join me in
http://www.langendorfkloeppel.de/proamer/produkt/kloeppz_a.htm
Linda Walton,
Thanks, Linda - and the glass light-globes
are what made me start counting my pennies . . . g
Toni in Seattle
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Of course, Oregon *is* south of Royal Deeside :-) And, yes, I do know your
seasons are more extreme than ours. I used to reckon that Aberdeen was
about
half way up the Hudson Bay, to give relative locations.
Patricia in Wales
Yes and no :
On the 'wet side' of the Cascade Range
(which runs
I'm too quick with the 'delete' today :
http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/tools/index.html
can be added to the 'displays' list of the
lace-maker who was drawing attention to a
'green horseshoe' - first I saw the horseshoe
and then I saw the if you live outside the E.U.
!! 20 percent off !! in the
because I don't have his private address -
What Clothes Reveal by Linda Baumgarten
about collecting for the Colonial Williamsburg . . .
It's an 'oversize' (coffee table) book and
past the Preface, and Acknowledgments,
opposite the Introduction - - - is Bjarne's
waistcoat - full and glorious page
I'm not aware of any species that became extinct due to a naturally
occuring forest fire, such as we have happening right now.
Bev
On a 'local' level, 'probably' not -
but when there's no place to
creep/run/fly to for *literal miles*
because the trees have been
cut and erosion has removed
Tatters? Knitters? Needle-lacers? Crocheters?
Clay
It's the *real* thing : Irish Crochet Lace -
none of your afghan granny squares !!
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Just don't 'forget' : the *first* bounty paid,
and don't 'forget' the **it that started this,
was $30,000,000 of *American* tax money . . .
http://www.msnbc.com/news/949443.asp?vts=080720031050cp1=1
Bounty raised on U.S. soldiers
General: Killing GIs may now be worth $5,000
To
(snip)
As for global warming,
Patricia in Wales
My own outlook on 'global warming'
is that the Earth has been made sick
by humanity's stupidity, and 'she' is
getting feverish . . .
Toni in Seattle
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I'm looking for the music for Improvisata by Edgar Tinel, a Belgian
composer of the mid 19th to early 20th century. There are one or two new
CDs out featuring his music, so one would think the music is available
somewhere. But no luck with Schirmer or Novello or any other major, minor,
or
(snip)
I agree with my father, who used to lay track back in the days of thirty
men to a sixty foot length - the problems are caused by the continuous
weld type of track used, which has none of the expansion joints of the
old type. Consequently, you get hot weather, and the track buckles;
other
That's what was said about bin Laden, too . . .
so where's the body ?? Or do we need the threat
of bin Laden to support the **it in the White House
while it spends tax dollars as bounty-rewards . . .
http://www.msnbc.com/news/934483.asp?cp1=1
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I'm catching up - Science (magazine)
Vol 299 January 2003 devoted half a
page to Bill Gates :
excerpt :
... announced that his philanthropic
organization will spend $200,000,000
(yes, all those zeroes !) on research
into . . . some of the world's most
deadly diseases (because they) are
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Camera phone used as crime-stopper
Teen's photos reportedly led to alleged assailant's arrest
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I too am a great fan of the Fan Museum in Greenwich. They pulled out all
the stops last year with an exhibition of lace fans to mark the OIDFA visit.
Over now, alas, but there are some pictures on their website:
www.fan-museum.org
Bridget, in Watford, England.
Thank you, Bridget, not only
(snio)
As for wotcher, I think of it as meaning something like hello, how are
you.
Ruth
Sounds to me as though it's what's
happened to What cheer ? over many
years (probably I read it in one of the
Bronte books - or Dickens ?)
Toni in Seattle
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(snip)
The lace would look best if it was held against the top curve of the glass,
but that would only be possible with glue.
(snip)
Jacquie
If you were to consider the 'donut' to be
a 'mold', and wet the lace - put it wrong
side *up* *in the mold* - and let it dry
that way - does the lace
try a few of David's remedies.
Lynn in Wollongong, Australia
Gotta 'get some *spice* into
your life' - jalapeno, cayenne,
etc. and work on that from
the inside, 'cell' level - steam
from the outside-inside added
to the *hot*-spiced foods
'through' the skin from inside . . . ?
Toni in Seattle
In this case, your tax dollars won't even be involved, in all likelihood.
Since this was a personal reply, I'm
omitting the ID.
But somebody help me out, here, OK ?
I don't know which 'industry' ?? pays
for other governments - but the U.S.
is run on monies from one type of tax
or another. And
If *this* is war, why are Americans still
getting killed ?
And I want a refund of the taxes I paid
- they were not meant to provide a bounty
to settle a personal grudge of an 'enemy'
having so many sons while **it doesn't . . .
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Today on MSN
a.. Memo warns of new airliner hijack plots
MSNBC News
a.. Air marshals pulled from key flights
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David wrote:
in the next couple of days I
need to send her a snail mail telling she has failed her audition.
What about saying that although you were impressed, there were only x
number
of spaces free in the choir, and that you had too many applying who were
whatever she sings (soprano,
(snip)
Anyone in lace-land have any other old-fashioned (or new-fashioned) aids to
getting bronchitisi/sinusitis to hurry up and go away? I do want to thank
Dr. Tamara Duvall, however, with providing us with the usual humour almost
everyday to read -- laughter is excellent medicine!! (Even
http://www.msnbc.com/news/944126.asp?cp1=1
Meet the dirty dozen of business
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Many cars/trucks Americans buy are not built here.
*Most* ships Americans sail on are not built here.
The planes . . . well, probably not for much longer, the way Boeing is
headed.
The steel industry is sick, to say the least . . .
The food . . .
. . . and the jobs ?
As from midnight last night certain weapons of mass destruction were banned
in the UK (and, I think, other European countries).
Whoa !! Then the it in our White House is no
longer allowed entry to the UK or some of
the other European countries ? ...
The stupid thing is that the
Reminds me of a story that's at least twenty years older than I am.
(So don't ask for provenance!)
After the Great War (WWI), when there was a lot of war surplus
lying around, one little boy got his hands on a real, working gas mask
-- and for miles around, no housewife had to grate her own
(snip)
It all Started with Adam and Eve (human history),
Tamara P Duvall
I pulled up the Seattle Library System
screens on my PC, only to discover that
*they* apparently do not *have* that
title by Armour, Richard whatever-his-
middle-initial was . . . sigh . . . so I'm
waiting now to see how
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96feb/wordimp/wordimp.htm
for an article that mentions mugwump etymology and a few other
interesting words.
Tamara
The bottom line ? (for that article)
The Man (usually capitalized) soon personified the System, especially as
conceived in neo-Marxist
Martha Stewart may soon have a new captive audience
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Pene
Correction ?
. . . soon *be* a captive - - - audience ?
Thanks for the update, Pene, 'that girl'
upset me so much after I've been cheering
her on for being a 'real (business) role
model' - - that I
Lace d'oyleys you can eat !
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While we make lace,
things may change . . ..
The House just passed the Singapore Free Trade Agreement (H.R. 2739) by a
272-155 vote.
And it passed the Chile Free Trade Agreement (H.R. 2738) 270-156 just a
little bit later.
Republicans almost totally deserted the higher-skilled American worker
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s908482.htm
Man drops trousers at royal garden party
The Queen got an unexpected view of one of her subjects when a guest at one of
her regular garden parties dropped his trousers and scampered off among the
tea-drinking crowd.
He was a young man, an invited
http://home.golden.net/~dhobson/consongs.htm
Toni in Seattle
(I'm a lonely little petunia - in . . .)
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I got so irritated with that soppy Bridget Jones and her daft ideas that I
wanted to rip her arm off and beat her to death with the soggy end -
Carol - in a wet and very windy East Anglia.
Whoa ! Hold it ! you had better get some
medication - I think whatever it is that the
bloodthirsty it in
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Plus in the beginning, we would be told about many lace making trips
that lacemakers have taken, telling us what they have seen, what
they liked etc. This is seldom done, I myself have taken many trips
but would not post to Arachne what I had seen and done.
Angela is currently giving us
the
Which reminds me...not far down the shelf are the books
by Miss Read, about life of a schoolteacher in a small English
village. (To UK members -- are these stories plausible to you
who are more familiar with real villages? As an ex-teacher, I
rather enjoyed the stories.) My library even has
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Insurance/Insureyourhome/P35345.asp
excerpt :
What's more, the problem is derailing their plans to sell their home. The
Garders say they have been told by their real estate agent and others that
they may have a tough time getting a good price for a home that's
--sue, in beastly hot, dry, smoky Montana (yes, it's too hot to make lace!)
And that's the truth !! It's going to
be 93 F (according to this morning's
radio DJ) in Seattle - makes me
think of moving farther north - - -
Bev ? what's the temp like on
The Island ? like day before the
Lace
I wonder if it's worth suggesting that extra split here? I know some people
here feel strongly on both sides of the fence ...
Margery.
I'm not against advertising, I
just don't want to *deal* with
it on a daily/hourly basis.
A third list for *sales/marketing*
is an absolutely wonderful idea.
Hi, for some time there has been a problem with people wanting me to tell
them of special offers and new additions to our web site. The problem being a
hand full of people who don't like it.
Excuse me - don't like it ?
My understanding is that
*advertising is prohibited* ??
but an *URL*
(snip)
I'm such a fan that not only have I got the first 11 books in paperback,
but
all 12 in hardback as well. I've also got the videos of the TV series
amounting to 27 hours of viewing, including the dreadful episode made by
ITV.
Jean in Poole
I did the same (bookwise only) with
the Anne of
http://www.poldark.com/poldark/thehorsedealer.htm
Jean in Poole
Whoa ! that site offers an HTML version
as well - that flipped up on my monitor
in the space of 1.5 seconds instead of
the ?? *minutes* required by .pdf files . . .
*And* the second paragraph of the story :
He lived in a
(snip)
It was also suggested that the concentration on one thing at a time
explains why there are more men specialists in some professions.
Jean in Poole
I was reading along and 'learning',
until I got to the 'bottom line' -
and 'learned' that somebody is still
trying to fool all the people
One of DH's women in one of his internet groups was wondering if she
should apply to the Guiness Book of Records as having the most number of
body parts missing.
(snip)
Jean in Poole
===
I think my brother in law could be an equal or close second. He is missing
Lynn in Wollongong
(snip)
What I am hoping is that some of you might list a few books that you
have read over the years that stick out in your minds as having been
worthwhile.
(snip
Susan Webster
. . . And Ladies of the Club
by Helen Hooven Sant Myer
A Sand County Almanac
by Aldo Leopold
Noah's Garden
by Sarah
. . . But better looking as he gets older G
. . . never mind who . . . g
So - which *woman* is better looking
as she gets older ? Or maybe *we* haven't
*earned* 'equal treatment/rights' yet . . .
Toni in Seattle
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excerpt :
In the out years, by their own estimate, their plan
is a job and growth killer, says Jared Bernstein, economist at the Economic
Policy Institute.
Instead of doing what serious analysts would do and going to the drawing
board to re-evaluate,
they just
http://slate.msn.com/id/2085183/
The magazine Redbook will be wearing
a 'brown-paper cover' on Wal-Mart shelves,
and the bottom line expresses an opinion :
. . . the principles Wal-Mart has lately espoused-prescriptive religion,
sexism, corporate strong-arming to prevent unionization-(it) is
http://www.msnbc.com/news/933922.asp?cp1=1
Microbe gobbles toxic plastic waste
Researchers see new approach to removing vinyl chloride
ASSOCIATED PRESS
July 2 - Scientists have identified a microbe that gobbles up toxic
waste deep underground, a potential remedy for
Hi All, At the risk of raising Toni's blood pressure I want to tell you
about something I read. This weeks People magazine has an article on women
who were in the astronaut program in the 1960s!
Jane
To the contrary, my dear, seeing
women's accomplishments is very
soothing . . . not that I
This is it - if anybody wants to off the it in the White House,
they're welcome . . . Unemployment is climbing and people
are running out of benefits they've been collecting for so long,
interest rates on savings are down to 2 percent and less, so
retired people who *can't* work are hurting along
Don't do as I do, do as I *say* . . . and other powermaniacs . . .
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There's lots of Americans to 'spend' - none of *its*, however . . .
http://www.msnbc.com/news/933766.asp?0sl=-30
Bush challenge
to Iraq attackers:
'Bring them on'
excerpt :
But with opinion surveys showing public confidence
in the U.S. campaign falling to below 60 percent,
the president
(snip)
The best-known lace in Finland comes from Rauma, where a sophisticated
industry flourished in the 18th and 19th centuries, but in rural areas they
used what they had: unshaped twigs for bobbins and even birchbark for
prickings, to make peasant laces, often of coloured linens, which
Muslim women wear personal tents to
'protect' men from thinking 'sinful thoughts',
in the U.S. women are supposed to :
http://www.msnbc.com/news/933424.asp?vts=070120031650
Who gives a *#%$? about *women* if
*they* don't look out for each other
Toni in Seattle
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Margot, out of the kindness of her heart,
has asked for donations to the library
being rebuilt/restocked in Alexandria . . .
Jeri has collected, over a lifetime, an
'inheritance' for lace-makers, and also has
asked for suggestions on how to best
use/maintain it . . .
. . .
Putting all one's eggs
A friend of mine made a lacepillow with knuckles from sheep's feet as
bobbins,
it looked very convincing, but her dog ate the bones before she had made
a photo.
Vibeke in Copenhagen
I had to smile at this one, Vibeke,
our school-children used to tell their
teachers, when their class work had
Brian from Cooranbong, Australia wrote :
I have 5 pictures that I will send anyone to their personal email address.
They will be sent in HTML and will take approximately 25 secs to download
(with a 56 kps modem) A little more with a slower modem.
Please send me a personal email to request
(snip)
. . . suitable bones (and I think thorns as well); from what I can remember
without much success. Perhaps they are now reading this and can recall the
results better than I can.
Jacquie
Fishbones are 'not in my experience',
but thorns ? Yes, indeed, the 'right'
ones are long - the one
Thanks, Margot ! I'll be 'at the library'
as soon as I'm done with posting today !
and thanks, too, for the 'tip' about the
paperback . . .
Toni in Seattle
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Subject: [lace] Lace
(snip)
As for the text, I had to keep mousing the little thingie at the
bottom, left to right and back again to read the entire line, which
made me get the heck outa there before I finished reading the first
paragraph... definitely not my cup o'T; not 'puter-idiot-friendly
enough :)
Tamara
Web
The following article tells what is
being done - *and* *not* done -
by the government about
telemarketers :
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Banking/FinancialPrivacy/P49439.asp
It's also a scam way to identify
individuals and get them into a
government database - but I digress -
even if you
To explain the Subject line : for non-Americans -
The U.S. has a fast-food franchising firm called
Kentucky Fried Chicken. The creator is portrayed
as a Southern-type Colonel, dressed in a white
suit, etc. . . . Voters put a type of 'Colonel' in
the White House . . .
From: D.D.
Latest fashion:
http://www.americanapologyshirt.com/
For the frequent traveller.
Tamara P Duvall
Those shirts that might change the
course of history if the waitresses
at Hooter's would wear them !
Toni in Seattle
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Not pleasant :
http://www.msnbc.com/news/928869.asp
and the 'other' point of view :
http://www.msnbc.com/news/930810.asp
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http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Articles/Dispatches/P50839.asp
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And in library school we were **required** to
look through a collection of **real** pornography (not Playboy, for
sure!) -- so we would know what we talk about.
Carolyn
So I'll ask somebody who's been trained :
both movies and stills ? violence-in-action ?
snuff films disguised as pornography
http://www.msnbc.com/news/930166.asp?vts=3D062320031215cp1=3D1
Steph
In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I want
to.
And I would 'defend to the death' your
right to do so'.
The same way I would defend your
right not to be distracted by explicit
and perhaps
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