Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-06-05 Thread Lin Hudren
Joan, i emailed him and he gave me his web site url. He just got it up and running and is still working on it but it exists. Hugs, Lin and the Mali Overton, NV USA On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Joan Wilson joanwils...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Richard Pikul does not have a web site just

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-06-04 Thread The Lace Bee
I've come into this one late and sorry if it's been answered. I have spent hours arguing with a cutlery manufacturer about ferros metals.  Stainless steel (especially 18/10) should NOT be magnetic reactive.  If stainless steel reacts to a magnet then it's not stainless steel.  We had issues

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-30 Thread lynrbailey
Dear ladies, Wow, what a great idea. I have always said lacemakers are smart. The plastic canvas that is used in some kinds of needlepoint is a GREAT idea. It's easily available, rather thin, can be pinned through the regular holes, easily cut to shape with a scissors. Lyn in Lancaster,

Fw: Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-30 Thread lynrbailey
Dear David, Robin, et al, In the US at least, you can find dowels of all sorts of thicknesses in places that sell supplies to make models. I see them in model train stores, and in the big box craft stores. They range from very narrow, perhaps less than 1/8 inch, .3 cm all the way on up. If

Fw: Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-30 Thread lynrbailey
Dear David, Robin, et al, In the US at least, you can find dowels of all sorts of thicknesses in places that sell supplies to make models. I see them in model train stores, and in the big box craft stores. They range from very narrow, perhaps less than 1/8 inch, .3 cm all the way on up. If

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-30 Thread Janice Blair
When I was preparing to make my scarf (which is now 32 long), I made bobbins with bamboo skewers and beads, but I found after I had wound a few, that the wood was not very smooth and snagged the thread. It had felt okay in my hand but not in use. I am using a slubbed silk and it kept

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz wrote: David, I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that can wear and break the wire or thread - whatever - that holds the beads on. That is what the shank is for - for picking them up! :) Picking up the bobbins by their spangles is the only way I can pick them up.

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Jacquie Tinch
I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that can wear and break the wire or thread The main reason to be taught not to handle the bobbins by the spangles is that there is a limit to how quickly you can work that way but if you are like Jean and have dexterity issues, it

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread lynrbailey
The last time this issue came up, I was discussing some sort of tray as Shirley and Liz mention, but I wanted sides that came up for storage to prevent rolling off, and came down when I wanted to use the bobbins, so they could just be put on the pillow and treated as some sort of cover cloth on

RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Diane Z
, Maine, USA -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:27 AM To: Tregellas Family Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] There's never enough room The last time this issue came up

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Robyn, Some interesting ideas here which could inspire others to take them further. A thin wood dowel ought to work just as well as coathanger wire and be easier to make up. And wood will grip the thread beginning, making them much easier to wrap. As soon as I read that I immediately

RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Diane Z
Re Carriage Bolts: When I first tried lace making, supplies were difficult to find so I used carriage bolts. But, they colored the thread, so coat them first with some type of varnish. Diane Z Lubec, Maine, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Janice Blair
If you want narrow bobbins but with a square end, you should check out the bobbins made by Richard Pikul in Canada. They are as slim as a midlands but flare out at the bottom. You can see a sample on this website http://www.lacegazette.com/CLGbobbinlarge.html and you can contact him by email

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Lin Hudren
Wow, talking about the meat trays, those styrofoam trays are not very deep, but they are smooth and will hold weight. you can get a few free from butchers but collect the right size to suit you. If you cover it with cloth and also have the side flaps mentioned above, that would serve for travel

RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread David C COLLYER
At 03:47 AM 30/05/2012, Diane Z wrote: Re Carriage Bolts: When I first tried lace making, supplies were difficult to find so I used carriage bolts. But, they colored the thread, so coat them first with some type of varnish. OK - thanks Diane David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Joy Beeson
On 5/29/12 12:27 PM, Diane Z wrote: . . . Why not encase a piece of plastic in cloth. And for plastic that you can pin through: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_canvas -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne,

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Donna Fousek
I to have a few bobbins made by Richard Pikul.  I agree with Janice about the feel and balance of them. They are very a pleasure to use.\ Donna Near Chicago. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread bev walker
I have some, but they aren't that narrow. They take just as much space as most of my other bobbins. The most slender I have were made by the Perrins' son (SMP lace, his name escapes me, starts with N?) and lots of them would fit on a pillow in one layer. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Janice

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Clay Blackwell
I agree with Janice and Donna that these bobbins are a pleasure to work with. But Bev, they are not to be confused with someone else's bobbins... his are totally unique! I have a few of them, and find that regardless of whether I'm using spangled bobbins or Bayeux bobbins, or for that

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Janice Blair
Was it Neill? Richard's are less than 1/4 on the stem but do open out to a little less than 1/2 which is less than spangles take up. I just like the feel of them. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Joan Wilson
Hi, Richard Pikul does not have a web site just email. His bobbins are a dream to work with, the wood finish wonderful. Joan in Ontario. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Was it Neill? Richard's are less than 1/4 on the stem but do open out to a little

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread robinlace
David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: A thin wood dowel ought to work just as well as coathanger wire and As soon as I read that I immediately thought of those cheap wooden meat skewers. I recall in my early days when I didn't have enough bobbins I used them with just a

Re: [lace] There's never enough room (collapsible boxes)

2012-05-29 Thread robinlace
lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: The last time this issue came up, I was discussing some sort of tray as Shirley and Liz mention, but I wanted sides that came up for storage to prevent rolling off, and came down when I wanted to use the bobbins, so they could just be put on the pillow and

RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread jeanette
Some kinds of stainless steel will stick to magnets. -- Joy Beeson A thin wooden bobbin with a metal insert might work! Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help,

[lace] There's never enough room!

2012-05-28 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend
Hi David A few years ago at a Congress in either Denmark or Germany we saw one of the suppliers working on a project which required some 4000 [continental] bobbins [not sure if my husband misunderstood the number when he asked how many - but there was an awful lot of them] - she managed them

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread Maureen Bromley
Dear All I am now definitely now 'thinking outside the box'. How about 'virtual lacemaking'. The younger generation (and probably some of the older ones) play various games etc on their computers. So has anyone thought of writing a programme for 'lacemaking'?It could be considered as

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Clay, So, I put my mind to it and designed wings. My DH cut the shape and engineered a way to attach it to the brass rod. Now, when I am working with a large number of bobbins, I can stack those not being used on the wings, on whichever side is appropriate. Then, the apron is clear

Re: [lace] There's never enough room!

2012-05-28 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Nicky, I have a number of similar holders [though not the version with the pin] which I use for my Suffolk bobbins, for Midlands bobbins I use slim metal knitting stitch holders which I can then stack on top of each other and secure with a long pin or two [ie a hat pin] to keep them

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread lynrbailey
Dear David, et al, I think the beauty of Clay's wings is that they are above the pillow. That enables the part under the wings to be used, and provides storage space above. Looking at her pictures, especially http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2427344170048870129FeIbLa it becomes

[lace] there's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread Agnes Boddington
Lace makers find their own way of controlling bobbins: large safety pins, stackers, crocheted strips etc. I use 15cm strips of 10cm wide elastic, burn the ends with a match so they do not fray, lay them over about a dozen bobbins and put divider pins in both ends. I can stack them and put the

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread robinlace
I'm not good at thinking up new ideas but I'm better at tweaking and critiquing. First off, the magnetic sheet doesn't need to cover the pillow, just the apron where the bobbins lay. This means there's no issue about pinning through the magnet. Second, the bobbins just need some part

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
David, I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that can wear and break the wire or thread - whatever - that holds the beads on. That is what the shank is for - for picking them up! :) As to stacking them up - I have seen people use the base of a plastic dish - like an ice

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-28 Thread Tregellas Family
And I was taught (way back when, with Norma Turner, Hi Norma) to use working cloths to support about 10 pairs at a time, stacking on top of each other to either side. One can stack an awful lot of bobbins that way. Cheers, Shirley T. - in wintry Adelaide, South Australia but I can curl

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Friends, I was thinking of you all today as I finished another piece of Point Ground lace. It was quite complex and used about 150 pairs of bobbins. The thought came to me that there never seems to be enough room for all those bobbins even though I have a table sized pillow. Then I

[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Jane Partridge
I use hooked bobbins for certain things, and a while ago one of our suppliers changed his from totally wooden to wooden handles with about 1/8 thick wire for the neck and hook. Winding them to use once has put me off using them altogether, it was an absolute pain; thankfully he has gone back

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Dmt11home
Why not do what the lacemakers of old did, and make the lace in clever little pieces that fit together, then join them, expertly. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread David C COLLYER
At 02:26 AM 28/05/2012, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Why not do what the lacemakers of old did, and make the lace in clever little pieces that fit together, then join them, expertly. Nah - don't think I'd enjoy that as much David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Clay Blackwell
David, I worked a project last year that had 375 bobbins, plus gimps, and bobbin management was the big challenge. I was able to get a Christina pillow a few years ago, and it was one of the older ones which had a brass rod behind the roller that supported a tray to hold tools, pincushions,

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread kazaman44
To: Arachne ReplyTo: dmt11h...@aol.com Subject: Re: [lace] There's never enough room Sent: May 27, 2012 6:26 PM Why not do what the lacemakers of old did, and make the lace in clever little pieces that fit together, then join them, expertly. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com

[lace] there's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Lorelei Halley
David I think Diane is right. If the bobbins get too thin, like coat hanger diameter, they are hard to pick up. All lacemakers would have to grow fingernails long enough to help the picking up. I also would find the stickiness of magnetic attraction quite annoying. Storage slabs shaped like

Fw: Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread lynrbailey
Dear David, I appreciate your frustration. I think at one time I did 100 pairs, and with Flanders, there are always more than enough bobbins to go around. But I don't think it wise to try and re-invent the wheel. Make adjustments, try the new materials, yes. The equipment we use now, and the

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Dmt11home
I realize that David is really looking for a metal and magnetic answer to the space/bobbin continuum puzzle and I wish had something clever to offer in the way of an electro-magnetic force field that holds the bobbins in some kind of holographic suspension, but taking a leaf from Lyn's

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Lyn Bailey
I'm sure David will correct us if necessary, but I think David is looking for a way to store bobbins in a project which are not in use in a way that they are safely stowed, but can be retrieved easily. And a way to fit more bobbins in the 'sweet spot' on the pillow, the area where the work is

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Dmt11home
Just as a point of information, the Valenciennes bobbins I posted the picture of are about 1/4 at the widest part of their bulb. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Lyn Bailey
Gosh. Well, they don’t look it, but if they are that thin, they should do the job. From: dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:38 PM To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net ; dccoll...@ncable.net.au ; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] There's never enough room Just as a point of information

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread bev walker
Hello David and everyone Ok, mind is cleared (as much as possible) per your request. Slender paddle-shaped metal bobbins on a magnetic platform, hmmm, yes you could fit many more than our conventional type on the apron area in a single layer. You are moving the bobbins by the

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread L.Snyder
A ferrous metal bobbin will discolor your thread. Probably any metal bobbin will! Lauren in Snohomish - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-27 Thread Joy Beeson
On 5/28/12 12:11 AM, L.Snyder wrote: A ferrous metal bobbin will discolor your thread. Probably any metal bobbin will! Some kinds of stainless steel will stick to magnets. -- Joy Beeson http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's hot and we