[lace] Fw: Sad news Milada Marshall
Dear Spiders I have just heard this morning that another very well known and excellent lacemaker has passed away, having been taken by that dreadful disease Cancer. She was well known in Brugge too, as she used to organise trips from here in the UK to Brugge. Please pass on this sad news to anyone you think might have known her. (See email below, received this morning). Catherine Barley UK Dear All I've just heard from Lieve Cousins the sad news that Milada Marshall died on Thursday evening. There is no family to send a condolensce card and she did not want anyone to attend her funeral. She put up a tremendous fight, but the cancer spread to her liver. I did not know her very well, but she was a real character in the lace world and full of life. I will remember her that way and she will be in my prayers. Regards to you all Julia Hodder - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Handkerchief fabric, II
Dear All, I forgot to ask what kind of fabric to ask for. Then I remembered some fairy tale where some drops of blood were gathered on a piece of cambric. I think the fairy tale involved swans, not sure. So then I looked up cambric. Wikipedia is such a useful tool. Cambric was a specially finished fine fabric, could also be batiste. Baptiste is the name of the first weaver of Cambric, which was in Cambrai/Kamerijk. So cambric and batiste are more or less the same fabric. Then thereâs lawn and nainsook. And cambric was originally linen, and now is cotton. Like our fine lace threads. I have more handkerchiefs than most people my age, because I wore contacts, and the lint from a tissue created tears, so I actually used handkerchiefs. Seems to me the only practical thing to do is take the nicest handkerchief with me and compare it to what is for sale, regardless of the name. Problem is, I will probably use mailorder. Still problems. Martha Pullen, suggested by Clay, has at least 3 grades of batiste, ranging in price from about $8 a yard to about $28 a yard. I suspect that the people who write the Wiki articles are not textile pros, so anyone who has an opinion as to what to look for by name would be greatly appreciated. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is wet and chilly, but we havenât had snow My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
In the past I, too, have tried to reply to a person's question and received the message you must have permission (or some such phrase) to get in their in box. I 'applied' and go not response so did not actually 'answer the question'. I hope someone else was able to do so. I also get the 'symbols' in place of punctuation marks in Lyn's emails. I find it 'hard to read' and tend to skip over them.I receive my emails thru Hotmail and Explorer and am using Microsoft #7 on my computer. That's about all in info I 'know' about my experiences. Lorri FGraham, WA-where we are having the second 'sunny day in a row' maybe spring will come. Dear Spiders, With only curiosity, I am wondering about how some of our messages are appearing to each other in light of Clay's and Lyn's recent messages. Lyn's messages (as well as some others) appear to me (on AOL) with three diamonds filled with a question mark wherever there should be an apostrophe or quotation mark. My eyes can adjust to figuring this out fairly easily and I don't think much about it. A test attempt to reply to Lyn's message (without actually sending the reply) does not appear to be asking me to apply for any special permission as Clay was experiencing. I am just wondering what other Arachneans' systems are experiencing with regard to how messages look, as well as special permissions like Clay described being requested (in general, not just to Lyn). I have never had a request to apply for permission to reply to any email, to anyone with any system. So is this unique to certain ISPs uniquely, or in specific combination with certain other ISPs? Avital, I think you are more savvy in these areas than most of us, so maybe you have an answer? It reminds me of an old type of question such as, we all know what we identify as red (for example) looks like.but do we all really see the same thing? (Hope you know what I mean...and that doesn't sound too weird...((-;) Just curious. Vicki in Maryland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
Dear Lorri, In my circumstance, if you send it directly to me, and not through Arachne, it goes to an online folder, which I read right after my inbox stuff on my computer, and an automatic message is sent. Mine now reads: I apologize for this automatic reply to your email. In order to control undesirable emails, all email senders not in my address book end up in an online email file. I read it regularly, but if you want to be sure I recognize your email, ESPECIALLY if it is a new contact, or a business contact, PLEASE click on the link below. What you then send will end up as a request in my Inbox on my computer. I will then know you are a real person and have a legitimate reason to contact me, and will be sure to look for your email. There is no need to resend the email. Arachne members need do nothing unless you really want to. I am looking for your email, and will respond if appropriate. Feel free to erase this email. I apologize for any inconvenience. There is also a signature line: My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. I assure you I read the emails, especially the personal ones. There are always exceptions to the rule, but that's the rule. I try to answer all the personal emails. Sometimes, of course, life takes over. At least in my situation, the email sent to me, even in the online email file, is readable by me. And I read them. That's where my Arachne posts go. Don't want to miss those. Don't know what happens in any other circumstances. I use earthlink and Windows 7. As for the apostrophe issue, there is some weird interface between my email and the arachne interface that does that. I know that because if someone responds, I get to see the message with all the weird symbols. Thus I try to write without apostrophes, but it aint always easy. And for some, the email goes totally blank after the first apostrophe. That is really not good. It does not happen when I write directly to the person. And some people get it just fine, I believe. I have no clue what causes this. Perhaps one of our computer gurus can answer that. In this paragraph I have deleted 4 apostrophes. Lorri, in your paragraph below, you would have had to deal with 11 apostrophes. Besides trimming. Lorri Ferguson wrote: In the past I, too, have tried to reply to a person's question and received the message you must have permission (or some such phrase) to get in their in box. I 'applied' and go not response so did not actually 'answer the question'. I also get the 'symbols' in place of punctuation marks in Lyn's emails. I find it 'hard to read' and tend to skip over them. Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, USA where it is good weather for making lace indoors with a pot of hot tea. PG Tips. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] knitted coffee stirrers lace fan
HI, I thought that I would share my finished fan. I used the pattern from the LACE magazine. Being that I am in the US and unable to find the coffee stirrers used for the ribs. I created my own by cutting them out of a cereal box. Then painting them. Had lots of fun knitting it. looking forward to my next project. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2103267240107311195NZKaPK Donna near Chicago. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Fw: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
-Forwarded Message- From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Apr 22, 2012 4:36 PM To: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...) Dear Clay, Ahah! Let us see if this is the case. I am now sending in plain text. I will throw in a few apostrophes and quotes, and see what happens. I know the one I sent from my regular Windows Live email came back with funny symbols. I will now proceed to put in a few apostrophe's, Quotation marks And I'm off to the races. Lace content, am in the process of ordering batiste from Martha Pullen and it's like pulling teeth. lrb -Original Message- From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Sent: Apr 22, 2012 3:55 PM To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Subject: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...) Lyn, it may have been while you were off-list that someone more computer-savy than I said that your server evidently is set to sent messages out in html. The dinosaur program which Arachne is built on does not understand html, and so these strange figures pop up instead. So, the best thing to do is set your outgoing email preferences to plain text, especially when addressing Arachne. Clay My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
Woweee cazoonies! (no clue, but it's not supposed to be off color) All the apostrophes intact. I just changed to plain text on my computer based email, Windows Live email, and it should work. Wonder what this will do to my other email. Lace content, I'm still trying to order from Martha Pullen. One yard of white batiste should not take this long to place an order. We are not talking the response that, yes I've (there it is) got an order, but the original placing of an order. -Original Message- From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:36 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Fw: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...) -Forwarded Message- From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Apr 22, 2012 4:36 PM To: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...) Dear Clay, Ahah! Let us see if this is the case. I am now sending in plain text. I will throw in a few apostrophes and quotes, and see what happens. I know the one I sent from my regular Windows Live email came back with funny symbols. I will now proceed to put in a few apostrophe's, Quotation marks And I'm off to the races. Lace content, am in the process of ordering batiste from Martha Pullen and it's like pulling teeth. lrb -Original Message- From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Sent: Apr 22, 2012 3:55 PM To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Subject: Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...) Lyn, it may have been while you were off-list that someone more computer-savy than I said that your server evidently is set to sent messages out in html. The dinosaur program which Arachne is built on does not understand html, and so these strange figures pop up instead. So, the best thing to do is set your outgoing email preferences to plain text, especially when addressing Arachne. Clay My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] knitted coffee stirrers lace fan
What Donna did not mention was, that after our lace meeting we went to her local knitting/coffee shop/ice cream parlor where she found wooden coffee stirrers that would make ideal fansticks. It is an independent shop, not one of those chains, so they may not be found everywhere. Interesting place, they also sold jewelry, greeting cards, candy and newspapers. She also did not mention that she used tie-dye dye to color her fan. Janice I thought that I would share my finished fan. I used the pattern from the LACE magazine. Being that I am in the US and unable to find the coffee stirrers used for the ribs. I created my own by cutting them out of a cereal box. Then painting them. Had lots of fun knitting it. looking forward to my next project. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2103267240107311195NZKaPK Donna near Chicago. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
Well done! (regarding the plain text!) Now... about the fabric order. If you're getting this for handerchiefs, a yard will last well into the lifetimes of your heirs!! I think the pieces I got some time back were 60wide, but that may not be the case. In any event, you may want to order the minimum amount of two different weights rather than full yards... Just a suggestion! And, since Avital is off at the moment (apparently), the other thing is to remember to trim text! I'm the list's worst offender, so can attest to how quickly she will remind you that you're paralyzing the systems of those who get the digest!! Clay On 4/22/2012 4:49 PM, Lyn Bailey wrote: Woweee cazoonies! (no clue, but it's not supposed to be off color) All the apostrophes intact. I just changed to plain text on my computer based email, Windows Live email, and it should work. Wonder what this will do to my other email. Lace content, I'm still trying to order from Martha Pullen. One yard of white batiste should not take this long to place an order. We are not talking the response that, yes I've (there it is) got an order, but the original placing of an order. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Rembrandt and lace
Yes, actually, I was going to ask about the lace collection. From what I can tell, Cleveland has an excellent lace collection. Some pieces were donated by Mrs. E.S. Harkness to that museum in honor of her mother-in-law, as the family had Cleveland roots. Mrs. Harkness was a major lace donor to the Metropolitan Museum of Art's lace collection. Also at the Cleveland Museum are part of the Schiff collection. The collection that belonged to American expatriate Ida Schiff was divided into three, with one third going to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and one third to Clevelend, the last third going to a Minnesota museum. Photographs from the Schiff Collection are featured throughout Ricci's book Old Italian Lace, which has been republished by Dover. The Schiff collection has a lot of laces that are identified in the book as being from the 16th and 17th centuries. Peg, could we prevail upon you to launch a hunger strike on the steps of the Cleveland Museum in an effort to get them to put photos of all their lace on-line? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] Question about appearance of messages on Arachne?? (was:Re: [lace] To Lynn...)
Lyn, I don't think you are really hearing, nor realizing, what is being said. The message may come through to you whether the writer realizes it or not, but we ALWAYS get this response from you/Earthlink no matter what, asking us to fill out our info and it becomes tedium and insulting. Everyone I have known on Earthlink approves my email address the first time, so I don't have to go through it again. In writing you, sometimes this cycles several times in a day, so if I write you twice, I may get six emails from you/Earthlink back. I have asked you about it on a couple of occasions, and you just said something like It is what it is or don't answer, so I stopped writing. You may see responses to you on the list, but you likely don't realize how many you aren't getting, and I would guess it is quite a few. It just feels like a type of slap. You take the time to write something and you get a form of rejection letter...you are not approved and go through these steps to be approved, but you never are...or perhaps I am in the minority. It is not a personal criticism, but an attempt for you to realize that it comes across to people that they aren't valued by you, and that they have abundant time to fill out forms. That you have your say, but we don't get to respond back (only via an endless loop message that comes over and over and over again). Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Admin: Lyn's messages
Dear Spiders, I've resubscribed Lyn to Arachne. She has assured me that she does read her Arachne email, so I suggested that she re-write her canned auto-response and put a line in her sig. In other words, ignore the email that comes back when you write to her. Pretend she's gone to walk the dog or stepped away from her computer. The second issue is the appearance of her messages. The cause is not Arachne but Earthlink, her ISP. Its encoding is not plain text, and Majordomo (the list software) is passing on the anomalous characters because that's what it's supposed to do. I hadn't noticed these problems because I use Gmail, which is quite accommodating and displays just about any kind of encoding. If I can figure out a reasonable fix or workaround, I'll pass it on to Lyn.(Lyn, have you tried calling your tech support?) Avital Arachne moderator - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
