Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that
made the finest threads were deliberately destroyed during the French
Revolution, along with any saved seeds. However, all may not be lost! Flax is
a diploid plant with perfect flowers, an inbreeding system, and an annual
habit. The means it should  (theoretically) be fairly easy to identify,
isolate and breed new varieties.
> I decided last spring that I wanted to play around with developing new
varieties of some garden veggies, and thought it would be fun to try flax as
well. It was too late to start this season-- flax needs to be planted as soon
as the ground can be worked and it was already late spring when I started
thinking about it. I had hoped to begin  in spring of 2017, and wanted to
start with several different varieties of seeds. But it is very difficult to
find more than 1 or 2 varieties. So I will play around with what I can find
and see what happens.
> It's important to remember that we don't have to wait for some big research
facility to get us better linen threads. Anyone with a home garden and a cool
climate can jump in and do their part for horticulture and lace!

It would be brilliant if you could do it, but it would probably be a one-off
handspun thread.  Even if you do manage to breed flax with very fine bast
fibres the big problems would be growing enough and then finding a commercial
spinner prepared to take on a very small production run.

A couple of years ago Bart & Francis in Belgium were hoping to get some very
fine linen into production again but I have heard nothing more about that.

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
>>  The size of
>> the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in
Ireland.
>> What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few
>> skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on
the
>> label and 3 size 20 with the same maker. What would you use these linen
>> threads for?

Campbell’s 50/2 = 18 w/cm.  60/3 and 70/2 are both 22 w/cm.  Knox’s LC 20
= 18 w/cm
As Jane says these are tablecloth weights, ie torchon with 6mm-7mm between
foot edge pins for the Campbells 50/2 and the Knox 20; 5mm or 6mm between the
foot edge pins for the 60/3 and the 70/2.

Knox’s LC 60 is a bit finer at 31 w/cm which is about the same as most 3ply
cotton sewing machine threads, or size 80-100 crochet cottons, use for torchon
with 4mm between foot edge pins, heavy Beds or Bruges etc.

BTW - it was  W.J. Knox Ltd, (not Knox LTP) and LC was the product - sometimes
called LC lace thread - I don’t know what LC stood for though.  It should be
in skeins (UK use of the word skein ie small hanks) with gold and red printing
on the labels.


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