Re: [lace] Looking for lace group/teacher near East Chester, NY

2009-09-01 Thread Devon Thein
My impression is that they may be a Spanish speaking group. We heard about them when we were demonstating in NY but I have no idea how to contact them. If anyone ever figures this out, I would be interested to hear. Devon Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Regina Haring

Re: [lace] Engageants and lappets /barbes caps

2009-09-23 Thread Devon Thein
The shape of lappets or barbes changed along with the style of the lace almost decade by decade. The more simple cap you directed us to was from the final decades of the 18th century, the other from the first half. What era are you re- enacting? Santina Levey's book Lace a History goes into

Re: [lace] Metropolitan Museum of Art's lace collection on line

2010-12-18 Thread Devon Thein
MMA not MOMA. MOMA is Museum of Modern Art. Sent from my iPhon On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: Since you've had access to much of this collection for a long time, and your cup runneth over, just imagine how those of us in the backwoods of

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-10 Thread Devon Thein
I have never tried this doubling process, but my first thought is that there might be a significant difference in effect between a three ply thread for which a cross section would be round, and two round threads sitting next to each other for which a cross section would be more like a rectangle

[lace] Care of fabrics

2014-04-08 Thread Devon Thein
This advice seems better calculated to ruin your clothes than preserve them. Do you suppose they had young men who were serving their country on the home front writing these? Or, perhaps it was a make work project to keep the country invested in the war effort. I read somewhere that the metal

Re: [lace] Footside on left

2014-04-23 Thread Devon Thein
Are you assuming a single point of introduction, during which a mistake was made? I would assume there were many points of introduction and contact, but one country, or possibly several, regularized to left footside while most regularized to right footside. Also, I would have to disagree with

Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin

2015-11-02 Thread Devon Thein
Ours are on the way. Because of different mailing options, members who are not in the US often receive theirs first. Devon Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

[lace] looking for Ros Hills

2016-06-03 Thread Devon Thein
Embroidery Series. The works pictured are "I am woman" and "Summer in India". Does anyone have contact information for Ros Hills or for someone who might own one of her works, especially the location of the two works I mentioned. Devon Thein - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@ar

[lace] email problems/Celtic demo

2016-03-15 Thread Devon Thein
I have bitten the bullet and started a gmail account. I was hoping not to complicate my life with more email accounts, but instead it seems that I have complicated other people's lives, so that isn't really fair. Brenda writes<< Irish crochet only developed in the mid nineteenth century - to

[lace] Lace collection of Queen Emma in the Hague

2016-04-11 Thread Devon Thein
Again, going through Wardle's book, I see some references to the lace collection of Queen Emma reputedly at the Koninklijke Verzamelingen, the Hague. Even the wikepedia entry which I had automatically translated confirms that this collection is at the Koninklije Verzamelingen, but it is unclear to

[lace] Lace in Utrecht, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, etc

2016-04-11 Thread Devon Thein
I have been rereading 75 x Lace by Patricia Wardle, as I am planning a vacation to the Netherlands and hoping to visit the Rijksmuseum. I keep noticing in the footnotes that there are pieces of lace she claims are on loan to the Centraal Museum in Utrecht. The book was published in about the year

[lace] Alphonse Nossent, reproduction laces

2016-04-11 Thread Devon Thein
As stated before, I am rereading Patricia Wardle's book 75 x Lace which has a great deal of information that seems to have escaped me on previous readings. On p. 38, she refers to a Brussels lace manufacturer, Alphonse Nossent, "who seems to have specialized in reproduction laces". The reference

[lace] Thread for Hollie Point

2016-03-22 Thread Devon Thein
While I agree with all the other posters about thread, thread length, etc., let me be the first to suggest that your concept of having needle lace be your "portable" lace may be unrealistic, especially if it is Hollie Point. Generally people turn to tatting for a portable lace. My colleague has a

[lace] Lace in the Netherlands

2016-04-13 Thread Devon Thein
Thanks to all who replied. I heard a report from someone who has visited the Rijksmuseum since its re-opening, that there was no lace on display. Is this true? Or did she just not find it? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace

[lace] New lace group in Brooklyn, NY

2016-05-21 Thread Devon Thein
Be still my beating heart! Some young Brooklyn artists are starting a lace group in Brooklyn. The first meeting is on Thursday and I am planning to attend. You can read about it at this link. http://textileartscenter.com/blog/brooklyn-based-artists-launch-nyc-lace-guild/ Devon - To unsubscribe

[lace] A new booklet on needlelace

2016-04-14 Thread Devon Thein
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I went to the site for ordering. I do not read Italian, and I didn't want to get too far into the ordering process. But it appears to me that this might be a print on demand book, such as we have been discussing from time to time. I am not sure whether it

Re: [lace] Lace as Art

2016-07-25 Thread Devon Thein
I like Agnes Herczeg's work, too. Devon On Monday, July 25, 2016, Witchy Woman wrote: > I would definitely include Agnes Herczeg of Hungary in a show like this. I > own one of her pieces, and it is beautiful! > Her pieces are a genius mix of needle lace and bobbin

Re: [lace] Lace as Art

2016-07-25 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Susan, Thanks. This is very helpful. Devon > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
I guess there must be some celebrities who do knitting or crocheting since someone said there was. The last one I recall was Rosie Grier who gained some notoriety for needle point. .I have to say I am so far from even knowing who celebrities are these days that it is embarrassing. But, my limited

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
I would also take issue with the idea that knitting and crochet are popular because celebrities are doing them. My perspective, of course, is perhaps very limited because I live near NY. But, from what I have observed millennials are making things as a form of self-actualization. They are finding

[lace] Lace as Art

2016-07-25 Thread Devon Thein
I guess I should be clearer about my motives for asking these questions. I am trying to put together a proposal for an art show in an art museum that will consist of pieces of contemporary fiber art made with bobbin lace and needle lace technique. The idea is to present works that show the

Re: [lace] Lace as Art

2016-07-25 Thread Devon Thein
All over the world. Devon > > I guess I should be clearer about my motives for asking these questions. > I > > am trying to put together a proposal for an art show in an art museum > that > > will consist of pieces of contemporary fiber art made with bobbin lace > and > > needle lace technique.

[lace] Buying lace as art

2016-07-24 Thread Devon Thein
I think there is widespread agreement that keeping track of hours and charging a minimum wage for them and selling the lace thus produced is not an economical proposition. But, I don't actually think that art is priced on an hourly basis. You are not paying for time, you are paying for creativity.

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
Sorry again. I realized I had sent this via the AOL account, not the gmail account, so I am resending it. Good idea, Jeri. In fact, when I attended the Grand Reveal for the Plymouth Jacket that I worked on they handed me such a press release which I sent to my local paper, largely in the spirit

[lace] Re: Supporting Young Lacemakers, Publicity, Networking

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
people who are sending them to me. There are about 1885 people who "like" the page. But, of course, those who are not on Facebook can't see these postings. Devon Sent from my iPad > On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: > > Response to correspondence generated by De

[lace] Oops, didn't trim. Sorry.

2016-07-22 Thread Devon Thein
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Re: [lace] Lace as Art

2016-08-01 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Phil, Thank you for the suggestion of Vicky Taylor. I was unaware of her work, but it is quite interesting. I am familiar with the Love Lace competition and have the catalog which I am using for a reference. As you say, it has the broadest interpretation of lace in it. While Love Lace was a

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-21 Thread Devon Thein
Catherine Barley writes: "Sadly so many mums don't have the luxury of staying at home to bring up their families these days, so miss out on the opportunity of a little 'me' time once they are old enough to go to school, which gave those of us of a similar age, the opportunity to learn a craft such

[lace] Supporting young lacemakers

2016-07-23 Thread Devon Thein
Many good suggestions have been proffered for increasing the visibility of lace. But, here in NY, what I am observing is that people who know how to make lace, and are fiber artists are turning away from making lace art because there is no market for it. We are, to use one of my husband's

[lace] Oops, final line should have read

2016-07-23 Thread Devon Thein
"viewing and enjoyment of oil paintings by connoisseurs" Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

[lace] Buying lace art

2016-07-23 Thread Devon Thein
The thread started off with Jeri saying, "We simply cannot afford to lose so many of our very talented lace artists without replacements. In memory of Radmila, " Doris has just said of Radmila, "She arranged for us to meet prominent Czech lacemakers, including Milca Eremiasova, Marie Vankova and

[lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

2016-06-30 Thread Devon Thein
What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for it? Would you call it "Embroidered Net"? There is an entire realm of things that are similar to these laces called names like Lazy Daisys. These are things that

Re: [lace] Anne of Green Gables

2017-02-18 Thread Devon Thein
Good point, Nancy. There was a lot of Battenberg and Princess Lace then, also embroidered filet. Of course that is why it would be instructive to know if the research is directed to what people were wearing, or what people were doing in terms of handwork. Considering the characters, I can't see

Re: [lace] Anne of Green Gables

2017-02-18 Thread Devon Thein
My guess would be that they were making revival era lace like everyone else in 1908. So, winging it here, I would suggest cluny style laces that look medieval. But, really, a very relavent question is "why do you want to know?" Are you advising a stage or screen version of Anne? Devon - To

Re: [lace] Lace magazine

2016-10-04 Thread Devon Thein
Check with the IOLI librarian librar...@internationalorganizationoflace.org On Tuesday, October 4, 2016, Susan wrote: > Forgot to ask--can anyone confirm that the IOLI library maintains back > issues of Lace magazine published by The Lace Guild UK? Many thanks. >

Re: [lace] Lacemaking

2017-03-08 Thread Devon Thein
Next time use the term "off loom weaving". Devon > Sent from my iPad > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

[lace] RE: Classification

2017-06-20 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Alex, While I agree in spirit with your observation, I am in the somewhat unusual situation of trying to review information in a museum data base, and determine the best term for the technique. Interestingly, the data base has a separate field for “culture” which gives the geographical

[lace] RE: Classification of lace

2017-06-19 Thread Devon Thein
I think that the discussion of Bedfordshire lace, and the fact that it implies a certain 19th century aesthetic goes to the heart of my unease about calling Point d’Angleterre Brussels Bobbin Lace. It seems to me that the term Point d’Angleterre, for all of its problems, implies a certain 18th

RE: [lace] Custom machine lace

2017-06-09 Thread Devon Thein
You’re on. What should the subject be? Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Sue Babbs Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:35 AM To: Devon Thein; 'Arachne reply' Subject: Re: [lace] Custom machine lace If you pay, Devon, I'll try it !! Grin!! Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send

RE: [lace] Names

2017-06-15 Thread Devon Thein
Alex says, “As it is rare to find a piece that can be traced back to its place of origin, perhaps we need to come to an agreement regarding classification by technique, bearing in mind that lacemakers did not work rigidly to a set of rules. The same technique may be found in laces made in

[lace] Custom machine lace

2017-06-09 Thread Devon Thein
Angharad Rixon posted a link to this business on the Textile Support Facebook page. https://www.contrado.com/custom-lace-fabric-material It appears that just as the possibility for designing your own printed fabrics has been available for a while, it is now possible to design your own machine

RE: [lace] Computerized Embroidery Designs - Lace

2017-06-14 Thread Devon Thein
I am very impressed with the link that Janice has provided. https://www.advanced-embroidery-designs.com/cgi-bin/cart/store.cgi?keyword=bo bbin+lace=search Someone has gone to tremendous trouble to produce bobbin lace like designs for machine embroidery. Usually, when artists produce a lace design

RE: [lace] Computerized Embroidery Designs - Lace

2017-06-13 Thread Devon Thein
<> In fact, I think it is “chemical lace”. The further instructions say that you have to use something called Vilene Water Soluble Stabilizer. According to a google search Water soluble embroidery stabilizers (WSS) will dissolve completely when immersed in water leaving no backing at all. They

RE: [lace] FW: Quaker samplers from Ackworth, Doing Research atMuseum Sites

2017-10-11 Thread Devon Thein
If Jeri would like to send her emails to me via my gmail address with the notation that I should forward them to Arachne, I would be happy to do this. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

Re: [lace] Lace art by Agnes Herczeg

2017-09-03 Thread Devon Thein
Lace art by Agnes Herczeg is also surprisingly affordable. I had already realized this while researching the contemporary lace show I am curating at the Hunterdon Art Museum in New Jersey, when I was contacted by a man looking for an anniversary gift for his wife for the " lace" anniversary. They

Re: [lace] Re: St. Catherine's Day-Cattern Cakes

2017-11-01 Thread Devon Thein
I was wondering about whether it was the self rising flour that was the problem. I wonder why you need more water in the US. Perhaps a humidity issue? I do have the recipe in the very pretty book about Cattern Cakes and holidays, so no need to retype it. What about beverages? I see that something

[lace] Fwd: Life in Olney a Hundred Years Ago - Lace Tells Reference (Long Post)

2017-11-03 Thread Devon Thein
>From Jeri -- From: jeria...@aol.com To: www.l...@arachne.com Sent: 11/3/2017 10:50:14 AM Eastern Standard Time Subject: Life in Olney a Hundred Years Ago - Lace Tells Reference (Long Post) Subject is the sub-title of a book published in 1890 by Seeley and Co.,

RE: [lace] Bucks point - on Ipswich-style Pillow at Smithsonian

2017-12-07 Thread Devon Thein
Thanks Nancy! Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: N.A. Neff Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:05 PM To: Lorelei Halley Cc: DevonThein; Jeri Ames; Karen Thompson; Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Bucks point - on Ipswich-style Pillow at Smithsonian Page has been sent to Lorelei, Devon, and

RE: [lace] Bucks point

2017-12-07 Thread Devon Thein
Thank you so much for this, Karen. The pictures of the lace, which you say was made in the 1860s, but on an earlier pattern and equipment do not present an whole hearted endorsement for the practice of not using pins in the ground. It is sort of sloppy looking. I took a quick look through the

[lace] Re: [lace] Buck’s pricking

2017-12-06 Thread Devon Thein
Karen, have you tried working it without the pins? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Devon Thein
I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of

[lace] Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi-fiction writer

2018-05-14 Thread Devon Thein
I talked to Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi the other day about her work of fiction based on the lace world in New York in 1980. Sharon has only recently turned to fiction. She has done a great deal of scientific writing including a non-fiction book called "The Worlds of Herman Kahn: The Intuitive Science

[lace] Lace reporting

2018-05-10 Thread Devon Thein
Jeri writes: The above is an illustration of how one of you might take over some lace news reporting, so I can cut back. I would like to reassure Jeri that in fact Elena and I do a great deal of lace news reporting, but it is invisible to those people without facebook or instagram. Some years ago

[lace] Oops. Corrections to previous post on grounds

2018-05-10 Thread Devon Thein
I meant "cross, twist, twist, twist" for point ground. Also, I meant late 20th and early 21st century, instead of late 19th and early 20th century for the rise of grounds that require starching. I plead a sense of disorientation from using a new mail program. I hope these are transmitting ok.

[lace] New Grounds

2018-05-10 Thread Devon Thein
Alex makes some interesting points in her post about grounds. The fact that we no longer have the finest of threads which enabled the elaborate quatrefoil grounds of the early 18th century is a shame. But, they are very much of the aesthetic of that era. i am not sure why simple grounds like point

[lace] An event not yet reported to arachne

2018-05-10 Thread Devon Thein
Elena, It crosses my mind that we should probably report to arachne that you will be teaching a bobbin lace class at the House of Wax Bar in Brooklyn on July 28th. The event which is likely to be of interest, although not exclusively so, to the Goth and Lolita community will be followed by a

[lace] Interesting article-Elena Kanagy-Loux-plain text

2018-05-13 Thread Devon Thein
I knew I was going to forget to go to the internet gmail site to send the message in plain text, and I did. Here it is in plain text. It is about Elena Kanagy-Loux. The article appears in Bust Magazine. Debbie Stoller, also an Arachne member and Brooklyn Lace Guild member is the editor of Bust

[lace] 20th century grounds-test-from web gmail program- plain text

2018-05-08 Thread Devon Thein
Vis a vis the catalog for Lace, not Lace. I am including Veronika Irvine in the show, and her interesting mathematically derived 21st century grounds. However, as I was scrutinizing Pierre Fouche’s work, Judgment of Paris II, which is also in the show, I realized, with his help, that the ground in

FW: [lace] 20th century bobbin lace grounds- Cliffhanger

2018-05-08 Thread Devon Thein
This is how I received my own message on my aol account. (You set it up so it goes to both my aol and gmail accounts.) I haven’t gotten it yet on my gmail account. It tends to come in much later on my gmail account. But I just checked the email I sent yesterday. It is ok on the gmail account,

[lace] The English Lace School- Susan Cox

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
I keep running across The English Lace School and Susan Cox. For some reason I thought that the Sprigett's business had that name. Can anyone explain the English Lace School and its role in the lace revival? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

[lace] Impact of Lace 98

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
As I explore the route of contemporary lace in the late 20th century, early 21st century, I am wondering about Lace 98 and what role it played. Being in the US, I am only dimly aware of this group, but it seems influential. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the

[lace] Re: Milennium lace grounds

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Jo, This is fascinating. Thanks for sharing it. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

[lace] plain text version of Adele's email

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
Dear David. I think the problem is two pronged. On the one hand the sender can avoid the problem by sending in plain text, which in my case requires me to go to the google mail internet site. On the other side, I think there is an issue with the receiving person having some form of outdated email

Re: [lace] Lace and maths

2018-05-20 Thread Devon Thein
Kathleen writes: I wonder if it is simply that bobbin lace appeals particularly to scientists and especially mathematicians. Moving on from this, is it the more “regular” laces which appeal, I.e. Torchon, Bucks and Flanders, rather than Bedfordshire for instance? Actually, I have always thought

[lace] Math of laces that aren't point ground

2018-05-20 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Sharon, Go to this link; http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/IOLI_2013_HVSCourses.pdf Look at the second page of the class description. There are two leaves in the upper left. They are virtually the same, but have to be worked entirely differently, depending on where the pairs are entering,

[lace] Modern versus Traditional

2018-05-20 Thread Devon Thein
How would you characterize the Binche lace of Kumiko? Is it modern or traditional? The style, Binche, is traditional, but the subject matter is Teddy Bears and Balloons and other non-traditional things. Any Nobens's Binche that she designed with timely themes often oriented toward the location of

Re: [lace] Beiderman and Kliot

2018-05-17 Thread Devon Thein
Thank you Doris for drawing attention to this. I confess I have not really examined the book very acutely since buying it new in 1973. This blows my mind. I had been imagining that Gertrude Biederman was cut in mold of others I knew in the era who were promoting traditionalism in the form of

Re: [lace] Interesting article - Lolita Goth

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Janice, The one thing that everyone agrees on is that the Lolita fashion has nothing to do with the book by Nabokov. Lolita seems to have the meaning of "cute and elegant" in its fashion context. It is a style, emanating from Japan that takes many forms. But, one concept is that it is sort of

Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Bev, You seem to have a set of pdf's of the IOLI Bulletin? Are these available somewhere? The young man from New York City who teaches lacemaking would have been Michael Auclair. He was very interested in the Ipswich laces, and Irish laces, too, I think. He did some lace appraising, even for

[lace] correction-Soviet Weekly, not the Daily Worker

2018-05-16 Thread Devon Thein
I mistated the source of the article on Russian lacemaking. It was Soviet Weekly, not the Daily Worker. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

[lace] Lace in San Francisco, 1970s

2018-05-16 Thread Devon Thein
When I was the IOLI Historian I wrote some pieces culled from information in the earliest publications of the IOLI. I was intrigued that in addition to Kaethe Kliot, there was another major lace figure in San Francisco, Gertrude Biedermann, who espoused a more traditionalist point of view on lace.

[lace] 1979 NY Times article mentions Michael Auclair and others

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/08/12/archives/lacemakers-preserving-an-ancient-delicate-art-it-kept-me-from-going.html This is a link to an article that describes Michael and other people making lace at the IOLI convention in NY in 1979. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com

[lace] Aurelia Loveman

2018-05-17 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Sharon, If you want to see the obituary of a fascinating woman, here is the link to the one that was written by Aurelia Loveman’s son. https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg43510.html She put on a lace show at the Walters Art Gallery in 1988 in Baltimore. Later she was

[lace] wonderful resource-machine lacemaking

2018-05-22 Thread Devon Thein
I have to regard with mixed feelings the fate of these "lacemakers" who were expelled from France and then encouraged to go to Australia. These were people who did not sit at the lace pillow plying bobbins, or making a fabric composed of buttonhole stitches. Instead these are the people who

[lace] Help me remember a movie

2018-05-23 Thread Devon Thein
I am going on a lace retreat and we are planning a movie night. Many, many years ago I saw a movie, or part of a movie. It was in black and white. It was a B picture, possibly film noir. It was set in the first half of the 20th century, I think. There was a woman who made bobbin lace on a flat

[lace] movie- A Woman's face, plain text

2018-05-23 Thread Devon Thein
Yes, it was “A Woman’s Face”. >From the various write-ups, it sounds like there isn’t any lacemaking in The Lacemaker, but I could be wrong. Are there any other ideas for a movie night at a lace retreat? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

2018-05-25 Thread Devon Thein
One concept that I seem to have gleaned from my reading is that the lacemakers in England did well during the Napoleonic Wars because trade with the continent was cut off. Then after the Napoleonic Wars things became much worse for them. Perhaps their number swelled during the period when people

Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker - books

2018-05-25 Thread Devon Thein
One book that I have found quite fascinating is Three Generations in the Honiton Lace Trade: A family history by Margaret Tomlinson. It is about the Chick and Tucker families. Admittedly these people were "management", but they worked in the lace business and there are a lot of details about every

Fwd: [lace] Machine lace and its manufacture

2018-05-24 Thread Devon Thein
Maureen, Thanks for placing this in time for us. It was the February Revolution, the revolution that overthrew Louise Philippe that forced the departure of the lace workers to Australia. From Wikipedia it would appear that this led to Louise Napoleon, Napoleon III taking the throne, and resulted

Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

2018-05-24 Thread Devon Thein
Also there was some old story, don’t know the source, that when the wealthy had trouble hiring servants they would conspire to not buy lace, thus forcing the lace makers to go “into service”. Being in service was less appealing. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com

Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

2018-05-24 Thread Devon Thein
Not that it is a work of history, but in the play “Ask for the Moon” the prospects for the illegitimate baby daughter of a lacemaker were so bleak that her friends encouraged her to kill it. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace

Re: [lace] Machine lace and its manufacture

2018-05-24 Thread Devon Thein
I would like to suggest that it is William Felkin's book, A history of the machine-wrought hosiery and lace manufactures that Jane is referencing. It is written in a very amusing style in 1867. I am quite interested in the example of lace that Alex posted on her site that is part handmade and part

Re: [lace] movie- A Woman's face, plain text

2018-05-24 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Debbie, It may be the case that there really are not enough lacemaking scenes in A Woman's Face to justify watching the entire movie, except that I feel the general subject matter may appeal to the attendees. Similarly the Scarlet Letter with Demi Moore has some wonderful lacemaking scenes. I

Re: [lace] questions for you lace makers living in California in the 1980s

2018-05-15 Thread Devon Thein
He is deceased. Sadly, I believe he was an early victim of AIDs. Devon On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Sharon Ghamari-Tabrizi wrote: > There was a young man from New York City who was interested in lace in the > period? Michael Auclair? Does anyone know about him?

[lace] Yale event

2018-05-18 Thread Devon Thein
I have just returned from our day of lace at Yale British Art Gallery. It was really great. The event was inspired by an exhibit that is not in the Yale British Art Gallery, but rather in the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library. The exhibit is called Text and Textile. While waiting for the

Re: [lace] Oldest lace group

2018-06-18 Thread Devon Thein
Jeri asked, and perhaps this was sent to me privately, I am not sure since I don't get her postings, whether there was a link between the Needle and Bobbin Club and the International Organization of Lace (formerly the International Old Lacers). I don't there was. Perhaps others have knowledge that

Re: [lace] Oldest lace group

2018-06-18 Thread Devon Thein
The IOLI started as a small sub-group of the National Federation of Doll Clubs. A few people were interested in dressing dolls in historically correct lace. Also there seemed to be some evolving interest in dressing in old lace by the members. My understanding is that as lacemaking became more

[lace] Oldest lace group

2018-06-17 Thread Devon Thein
I am thinking/writing about the impact of the lace organizations in transmitting lacemaking skills. Several of the artists in the show benefited from learning opportunities offered by guilds. The International Organization of Lace dates its start to 1953. I just looked up The Lace Guild. It seems

Re: [lace] Oldest lace group

2018-06-17 Thread Devon Thein
he Pacific National Exhibition every year, who > caught the eye of the women who started the Vancouver Lace Club, which is now > over 63 years old. So, D isn’t a huge organization, but has had a wider > influence. > > Adele > West Vancouver, BC > (west coast of Canada) > &

[lace] 17th cent bobbin lace, interesting technique

2018-06-17 Thread Devon Thein
I just posted some photos on ning. http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history This is a piece of what originally appeared to be mezzo punto. But I think it is entirely bobbin lace. Perhaps, really, Milanese is the proper identification. An interesting technique that at first looks to

[lace] Monica Ferris-Framed in Lace

2018-05-28 Thread Devon Thein
It has been a while since I read it, but I found Monica Ferris's book disappointing in terms of lacemaking. I remember thinking that she had obviously researched this to the point of visiting a bobbin lacemaker and watching what she did, and writing down how the lacemaker described it. I thought

Re: [lace] Happy International Lace Day

2018-06-25 Thread Devon Thein
Reading Lin's email this morning I was eager to post International Lace Day on the International Organization of Lace's facebook page. I tried to confirm the date. I think that it is actually July 1, this year. So there is still a little bit of time to organize your lacemaking and to post about

[lace] Another puzzling Milanese, faux needle lace piece

2018-06-19 Thread Devon Thein
I posted another puzzling piece on laceioli.ning I am sure the ground, which looks like needle lace is actually bobbin lace. But, I can't quite figure out how it is done. Ideas? http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history Scroll down to get to my posting. Devon - To unsubscribe send

Re: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed

2018-02-09 Thread Devon Thein
Thanks Joepie. I feel like Potten Kant is a larger category dealing with different laces featuring a flower pot design. Am I wrong about this? This is a very unusual, to me, lace. It does not have any kat stitch or point de Paris type ground in it. Only linen and half stitch. I can’t find it in

RE: [lace] Identification of Dutch lace needed

2018-02-09 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Lorelei, And I must voice my usual response that I am not at liberty to share better photos over the internet. I will send you some privately, for study purposes only, and not for publication. It is not a part lace. Devon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 - To unsubscribe send email to

[lace] An urgent request from Lyn Bailey

2018-07-27 Thread Devon Thein
Lyn Bailey has asked me to post this for her because she posted it herself this morning and hasn't seen it come through, and she needs answers soon. Please respond to lynrbai...@desupernet.net , not me ;-) I am an idiot. DH and I are leaving Tuesday for Amsterdam, returning on September 3. We

Re: [lace] the urchins

2018-08-16 Thread Devon Thein
Clinton is about equidistant from Newark and Philadelphia. It is probably best to rent a car, although there are some public transportation options from Newark. Although originally the Urchins were supposed to be up for the entire duration of the show, it is now the case that they will only be up

[lace] Travel to Clinton, NJ

2018-08-16 Thread Devon Thein
Sorry, the Urchins are up until Oct 7, not the 8th as I said. Here is some info about public transportation to them. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FROM NEWARK LIBERTY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND NEW YORK CITY TO HUNTERDON ART MUSEUM IN CLINTON, NEW JERSEY Transbridge Bus Lines (The Transbridge bus

[lace] early lace video

2018-07-17 Thread Devon Thein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc is may favorite to date, although at 1931, I wish it was a little bit earlier. For Saint Catherine's Day, I tried to explore the lace tells, and to that end, and with the help of arachne, located a Bucks Point pattern that is simple and intuitive, then

Re: [lace] early lace video

2018-07-17 Thread Devon Thein
One person has suggested off list that the woman is a lefty, or injured her hand in an accident. But I think that a lefty would put the pins in with the left hand, because that is arguably the thing that requires the most precision. When I was trying to make lace as fast as possible, and it was

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